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Should I get a DS or a PSP? Why?


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#31 Mr. 420

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 09:05 PM

If you like rpg's, the next 2 dragonquest games on the ds are going to be increadible. The psp is not superior to the ds but I think it may just barely edge it out.
If you get a ds get kirby canvas curse and castlevania dawn of sorrow.
If you get a psp get a psp2000 get vice city stories, some metal gear, and logan's shadow.
The psp slim was a bigger improvement than the lite was in my opinion. The d pad on the ds lite was terrible compared to the one on the phat.

I wouldn't even consider getting an old psp unless you are into emulation whoring. The slim has a much better screen and loading times.

Edited by Mr. 420, 06 August 2008 - 09:08 PM.


#32 Hostile

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 12:02 AM

I imagine that those who would expect the bad ending in FF7CC wouldn't hate it so much.

I think high production values can make a game more fun (enjoyable) by making it more immersive. Again, compare GTA between PSP and DS.

The 2nd screen is a gimmick if it is useless. I can imagine it being very useful in some games (such as Mario Kart), but most games simply don't need another screen. I don't like that Nintendo put all Gameboy games on the DS (abandoned SP) - even those that don't need the 2nd screen. They sort of forced everyone to upgrade the same way they did with Gamecube (delaying Zelda until Wii was released and then 1st releasing it on the Wii, discontinuing component output/cables from GC and changing the cabling for Wii).

I have GC and 3 GBA SPs and I refuse to upgrade because I feel like they're trying to force me to.


Well frankly we know nothing about the GTA on the DS. Who's to say the GTA on DS won't have high production values (for a DS game).

Just because it does not use the top screen or touch sensitivity doesn't mean it's all of a sudden a GBA game. I never had as much fun with handheld as I did with the DS in 2005 and 2006.

#33 Teh Nitwit

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 12:47 AM

Well frankly we know nothing about the GTA on the DS. Who's to say the GTA on DS won't have high production values (for a DS game).

Just because it does not use the top screen or touch sensitivity doesn't mean it's all of a sudden a GBA game. I never had as much fun with handheld as I did with the DS in 2005 and 2006.


The screenshots I've seen (from last E3) of GTA on DS looked really lame.

If a DS game doesn't need that 2nd screen or use the touch-screen functionality, then there is no reason (that I can see, other than forcing people to upgrade) why Nintendo couldn't release it on GBA SP.

After all, DS can play GBA SP games just fine, right?

#34 62t

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 12:50 AM

The screenshots I've seen (from last E3) of GTA on DS looked really lame.

If a DS game doesn't need that 2nd screen or use the touch-screen functionality, then there is no reason (that I can see, other than forcing people to upgrade) why Nintendo couldn't release it on GBA SP.

After all, DS can play GBA SP games just fine, right?


There is no screenshot of GTA. Someone posted a pic of Driver GBA.

GBA couldnt handle games like FFIV or other 3d games like mario 64. And also the extra buttons

#35 Skandis

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 12:58 AM

Well frankly we know nothing about the GTA on the DS. Who's to say the GTA on DS won't have high production values (for a DS game).

DS
Processors: 67Mhz and 33 Mhz respectively
Ram: 4 MB
GPU: 0,65 MB

PSP
Processor: 333Mhz
Ram: 64 MB + 4 MB embedded
GPU: 2MB, 166 Mhz

Also, DS has a REALLY hard time showing 3d games as it is really limited in terms of showing polygons.

#36 Mr. 420

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 01:13 AM

DS
Processors: 67Mhz and 33 Mhz respectively
Ram: 4 MB
GPU: 0,65 MB

PSP
Processor: 333Mhz
Ram: 64 MB + 4 MB embedded
GPU: 2MB, 166 Mhz

Also, DS has a REALLY hard time showing 3d games as it is really limited in terms of showing polygons.

Dont tell me the ds can't do 3d very good.
Look at the tony hawk games on the ds. They are better than the psp versions and the 3d is rock solid. I highly recconmend sk8land. I thought it was the best tony game I have ever played.

#37 Hostile

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 01:21 AM

DS
Processors: 67Mhz and 33 Mhz respectively
Ram: 4 MB
GPU: 0,65 MB

PSP
Processor: 333Mhz
Ram: 64 MB + 4 MB embedded
GPU: 2MB, 166 Mhz

Also, DS has a REALLY hard time showing 3d games as it is really limited in terms of showing polygons.


Why the hell would you reply to my message with that nonsense?

#38 Skandis

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 10:11 AM

Dont tell me the ds can't do 3d very good.
Look at the tony hawk games on the ds. They are better than the psp versions and the 3d is rock solid. I highly recconmend sk8land. I thought it was the best tony game I have ever played.

Yea, I wrote the post in the middle of the night so I suppose it's not uncalled for that not everyone understood what I meant:
GTA calls for a lot of pedestrians and a lot of ongoing activity in the surroundings.

Why the hell would you reply to my message with that nonsense?

And who are you, the king of town? Stop being a swearing douche.

#39 Teh Nitwit

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 03:00 PM

There is no screenshot of GTA. Someone posted a pic of Driver GBA.

GBA couldnt handle games like FFIV or other 3d games like mario 64. And also the extra buttons


I guess it was foolish of me to assume that DS was 2 GPA SPs slapped together. I did some looking and indeed the DS is significantly more powerful than the SP. It is 6x faster (2 processors, one 4x and one 2x faster) and has much more memory. I feel stupid now.

Still, Skandis was right about DS's limitations with 3D graphics. According to wikipedia it has rather poor 3D performance. Poor enough to affect the quality of presentation of games like GTA, I think.

Well, I'll pick up a DS someday, if I run out of games to play on the platforms I already have. I am sick of Mario, but I was interested in the "professor" game made by Level 5.

#40 Hostile

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 08:48 PM

And who are you, the king of town? Stop being a swearing douche.


What you posted was completely unrelated to my message. That's why it was nonsense.

I guess it was foolish of me to assume that DS was 2 GPA SPs slapped together. I did some looking and indeed the DS is significantly more powerful than the SP. It is 6x faster (2 processors, one 4x and one 2x faster) and has much more memory. I feel stupid now.

Still, Skandis was right about DS's limitations with 3D graphics. According to wikipedia it has rather poor 3D performance. Poor enough to affect the quality of presentation of games like GTA, I think.

Well, I'll pick up a DS someday, if I run out of games to play on the platforms I already have. I am sick of Mario, but I was interested in the "professor" game made by Level 5.


As far as the DS' 3D limitations go, they're about on par with PS1 or maybe a little better. If you're showing interest in Professor Layton though, I don't know why you're so caught up on the 3D aspect. There are a ton of unique and interesting games plus the standard Nintendo stuff to try on the DS and that's why I love it so much.

#41 SynGamer

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 09:09 PM

As far as the DS' 3D limitations go, they're about on par with PS1 or maybe a little better. If you're showing interest in Professor Layton though, I don't know why you're so caught up on the 3D aspect. There are a ton of unique and interesting games plus the standard Nintendo stuff to try on the DS and that's why I love it so much.

For me, the lack of detail between 3D objects is what ruined the DS experience for me...granted, i had a PSP for a few months about a year prior to getting the DS. Still, after having and using the DS daily for a few months (i know it was more than 3, not sure how many though) i ended up finding myself playing 2D games...something which i could do on my PSP and PC. There are some great games on the DS, many are 3D, but compared to the PSP, it's like apples and oranges. For instance, i'm playing through God of War: Chains of Olympus on the PSP right now. It fucking kicks ass! Nothing on the DS comes close to touching this in terms of visual effects and framerate.

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#42 Mr. 420

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 04:40 PM

The ds can do 2d a lot better than the ps one.
Nothing on the ds is expected to be anything like god of war or final fantasy 7 graphics. What the ds does have is a ton of great games. Many, many more than the psp unless your a rom whore. Even though the ds has so many more good games I still think the psp just edges it out. You can be very rough with a ds but you have to baby your psp because it isn't as portable.

There are also a ton of really good games that are coming soon for the DS such as dragonquest 4, castlevania, kirby superstar ultra, mushroom men, ghost busters, chrono trigger, and bangai o spirits.

This year the psp has Metal Gear digital graphic novel 2
Samurai shodown anthology-praying it has SS 5 special and tenka
King of Fighters Orochi which is kof's 94-98. 95 sucks hard but 96,97, and 98 make it a must buy. Then there are a few lame rpgs coming out also.

#43 Teh Nitwit

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 05:47 PM

The ds can do 2d a lot better than the ps one.

Riiiiight. Take Puzzle Quest for example. Which looks better, the DS one or the PSP one? Show me one example to back up your ridiculous claim.

Nothing on the ds is expected to be anything like god of war or final fantasy 7 graphics.


Heh. You're making it sound like it doesn't matter that the DS'es graphics suck compared to the PSP's. Trust me, graphics do matter.

What the ds does have is a ton of great games. Many, many more than the psp unless your a rom whore.


Suuure. A quick comparison between the Editor's Choice lists of IGN reveals that DS has 43 games rated 8.4 or higher and PSP has 45 such games (counting only US ratings - ignoring UK and AU).

DS may have more games total, but you claimed it has more "great" games. Besides, personally speaking, I couldn't care less about most of the DS games that made the list while I am much more interested in the PSP ones. Then again, I am 35, so my tastes would be different from those of most young kids. I'm just saying that you shouldn't make a claim that DS has better games, mostly because it's a matter of taste.

#44 SL4IN

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:28 PM




Suuure. A quick comparison between the Editor's Choice lists of IGN reveals that DS has 43 games rated 8.4 or higher and PSP has 45 such games (counting only US ratings - ignoring UK and AU).

DS may have more games total, but you claimed it has more "great" games. Besides, personally speaking, I couldn't care less about most of the DS games that made the list while I am much more interested in the PSP ones. Then again, I am 35, so my tastes would be different from those of most young kids. I'm just saying that you shouldn't make a claim that DS has better games, mostly because it's a matter of taste.


Well, you can't spell ignorant without IGN.

And while the debate of which handheld has better games is more or less based on opinion, one truth is that the psp is plagued with tons of ports, some good, some bad. A quick search of gamerankings (which compiles all reviews from various sites) shows 21 psp games with an average score of 8.4 or higher, while the ds has 26 games with an average score of 8.4 or higher. But in all seriousness, why do review scores matter if you enjoy the game?
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#45 SynGamer

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:30 PM

Not to stir the pot, but coming out and saying the "DS'es graphics suck" compared to the PSP is 1. rather obvious, and 2. hypocritical. I mean, it's a given that the graphics on the DS aren't going to be as good as on the PSP, and while yes, graphics do matter, A LOT of the games on the DS have great gameplay and good graphics. I've owned both, i would know. I ended up going with the PSP simply because it has more games that i'm interested in. I'm 22...and i approve this message.

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#46 naes

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 06:37 PM

Lock this thread. He already bought a DS.

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#47 Teh Nitwit

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 07:44 PM

Not to stir the pot, but coming out and saying the "DS'es graphics suck" compared to the PSP is hypocritical.

I suggest you first learn what "hypocritical" means before you start calling people that.

why do review scores matter if you enjoy the game?

Why would you assume I care about them. I only mentioned them while refuting Mr.420's ridiculous claim (that DS has many, many more great games than the PSP). Weird that that nonsense is being defended.

#48 Mr. 420

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 08:39 PM

I suggest you first learn what "hypocritical" means before you start calling people that.


Why would you assume I care about them. I only mentioned them while refuting Mr.420's ridiculous claim (that DS has many, many more great games than the PSP). Weird that that nonsense is being defended.

i meant ps one not psp one

Edited by Mr. 420, 08 August 2008 - 08:59 PM.