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#1 CheapyD

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 02:45 AM

This week we go beta and demo crazy with Socom: Confrontation, Pure, and Motorstorm: Pacific Rift and CheapyD gives Castle Crashers some tough love. We also talk digital distribution, E3 rebirth, Spore bootlegging, new releases, the latest video game industry and shopping news, your CAGbag questions and much more!


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#2 cdrober

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:51 AM

Thanks for posting this now, I need this as I continue on to finish my work by the morning! Always glad to see a new one of these.

#3 weevles

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:54 AM

sweet. socom demo impressions? motorstorm pr demo impressions? digital dl and piracy?? tough love for castle crashers?!? I'm looking forward to hearing this...

#4 TheHiei

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 05:25 AM

Those videos with Tai are awesome, I was literally crackin' up at the faces he made in the video you linked and also the weird position he was in in the other video.

#5 thorbahn3

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 05:33 AM

It's Dragon Quest 9, Cheapy and Wombat. You need to take roman numeral lessons.

Also, this is Captain Marvel and Wombat forgot to mention his alter ego is a child:




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#6 Z_meista

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 05:50 AM

It looks like Tai doesn't like his food. Nice video, Cheapy. I was cracking up as Tai makes those faces.

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 06:19 AM

It's Dragon Quest 9, Cheapy and Wombat. You need to take roman numeral lessons.


Actually it is a remake of the original Dragon Quest/Warrior 4 from the NES days.

IV= 4
IX= 9

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#8 CheapyD

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 06:19 AM

It's Dragon Quest 9, Cheapy and Wombat. You need to take roman numeral lessons.


This be a 4.

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#9 vanilla_shakin_it

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 06:38 AM

I may have misunderstood but FFXIII is exclusive to the ps3 in japan. Only in america does it come out on both consoles. Unless squeenix is changing its tune since the announcement.

#10 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 07:18 AM

How are Japanese people buying Xbox 360's for a game that's not coming out in Japan?

#11 thorbahn3

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 07:27 AM

Oh, I remembered hearing 9 was coming to the DS and thought this was it. My mistake.
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#12 daft07

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 07:36 AM

Wombat has to be on the cagcast show. Xbox 360 is still not getting Final Fantasy Versus XIII do the research on the net.
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Posted 15 September 2008 - 07:53 AM

Just a note about Wombat saying Pure being Disney's first videogame IP or w/e...

I think they also worked on Spectrobes for the DS.

#14 KingBroly

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 08:08 AM

Already 10 minutes in and many unforgivable errors thus far by both Cheapy and Wombat.

Errors of Note:
- Tales of Vesperia is not a Square Enix game
- FFXIII PS3 exclusive in Japan, probably rest of Asia
- Wombat not acknowledging the awesomeness of Ninja Turtles
- Burnout Paradise is not on PSN yet

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#15 CheapyD

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 08:09 AM

I may have misunderstood but FFXIII is exclusive to the ps3 in japan. Only in america does it come out on both consoles. Unless squeenix is changing its tune since the announcement.


Interesting...I wasn't aware of that. It appears it is still up for grabs in the rest of Asia, which is probably why my Taiwanese friend was excited.
Let's wait and see what actually happens since the release is so damn far away. I wouldn't be suprised in the slightest if it does get a Japan release, no matter what these guys say now.

#16 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 09:00 AM

Pure should be that much of a surprise since it's being developed by the same guys that made the later ATV Offroad Fury games after Rainbow Studios was bought up by THQ, whether its published by Disney or not.

:lol: I like Cheapy's reason for being down on MotorStorm: Pacific Rift because you're only racing around in circles. I figured you wouldn't like it, but that just seemed like a funny complaint for a racing game.

The reason Castle Crashers isn't that hard is that the enemies don't level with you, so if you grind a bit, you can essentially bypass some difficulty early on until you unlock the hard mode after beating the game.

I agree about Viva Pinata, haven't tried the second yet, being a huge time sink, which is why I haven't played it at all after my first marathon because I factor in the likelihood of wasting the whole day playing it and skip it for something else that I felt deserved more priority over it for my playtime.

I never watch any of the videos on Inside Xbox because if I can't download the videos and watch on my own time, I don't bother wasting time to wait for them to load and buffer for a tiny video window.

You're impressed by some simple stuff with the PS3, Cheapy. The first thing I did with my PS3 was put my PSP's memory stick in and play videos off of it. The PS3 can play videos of any resolution. It'll just upscale or downscale it to the resolution of your TV.

Warhawk's much faster than SOCOM and definitely more arcadey than it, too. It's better to buy an unfinished game that you know will be getting patched and expanded that other broken online games definitely don't get.

From what I've heard about Jeopardy, the main issue with the multiple choice answers is that it doesn't offer other reasonable answers with the correct answer, so if the answer's T-Bone, you'll get other answers like L-Bone, M-Bone, and N-Bone that makes it so obvious. I imagine Buzz Quiz TV will be the better quiz game for the PS3.

Sony's 10 year cycle is mainly for their support of the system, not when it's their main or only system, so they don't lock themselves out of releasing a new system until 2016. I think they may be more content to stick with the PS3 for a bit longer than usual before putting out the PS4.

#17 KingBroly

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 10:00 AM

Interesting...I wasn't aware of that. It appears it is still up for grabs in the rest of Asia, which is probably why my Taiwanese friend was excited.
Let's wait and see what actually happens since the release is so damn far away. I wouldn't be suprised in the slightest if it does get a Japan release, no matter what these guys say now.


Even if FFXIII got a release on the 360 in Japan, it would be much later than the PS3 version. At the time of the announcement, they hadn't even begun porting it to the 360. As far as Asia goes, nothing's been announced, but again, PS3 version is coming out first. Also, the PS3 version has a demo, which A LOT of people are going to import since the PS3 is region free.

I do love Nintendo, but over the past few months I have been playing a lot less of the Wii, only really playing Strong Bad Episode 1 and about an hour of Ys which I haven't gone back to. I plan on getting Animal Crossing, but it does wear thin after a while since you are limited in what you can do. I feel sometimes that Nintendo wants their base to move on so they can rid of their old franchise baggage except for Mario and Pokemon who they seem to love pimping out 5-6 times a piece every year.
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#18 ShinAkumA21

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 10:00 AM

can't wait to post a bullshit rumor and win a prize Muahahahahha:bouncy:

#19 playablemovies

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 12:10 PM

Actually, the original location for Acclaim was Glen Cove, NY not Great Neck

Also... if you manage to find a copy of mortal kombat for sega genesis the publisher of that title ARENA was based out of Oyster Bay, NY

so Long Island has actually had a few game publishers but, now it has none.

#20 Wombat

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 12:18 PM

I'll stick for up Cheapy and say that maybe people in Japan and Taiwan are buying/importing US 360's for FF, as it may still be cheaper then a PS3.

#21 h3ro

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 02:13 PM

It might be available eventually in Asia/JPN on 360, but the PS3 version will release way before as the 360 version won't even exist until after the JPN version of XIII is done. Also, Wombat, I'm glad you picked up on an Asian person in JPN using the atomic bomb reference. I nearly dropped my bagel when I heard that...

#22 vanilla_shakin_it

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 03:35 PM

It might be available eventually in Asia/JPN on 360, but the PS3 version will release way before as the 360 version won't even exist until after the JPN version of XIII is done. Also, Wombat, I'm glad you picked up on an Asian person in JPN using the atomic bomb reference. I nearly dropped my bagel when I heard that...

Yep, Square said that they will finish the japanese version and then begin working on the english version and THEN port it to the xbox 360. At this point I don't even care until they announce the release date in America.

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 03:42 PM

Cheapy just a heads up FF13 isnt going to be out for Xbox 360 in Asia.....

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:02 PM

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:05 PM

Regarding Spore DRM - a big part of the uproar surrounding this issue is that when you uninstall the game, you don't get one of your three activations back. I had to install the game three times to get it working properly (although it later turned out that my problems were down to EA server issues) - regardless, I used up my three activations so now I have to call EA if I want to be able to install it anywhere else.

It's a shame that EA went this route since I think most would agree that Spore's online component is compelling enough to persuade most would-be pirates to shell out for a copy, rather than going for a stripped down offline version. What with all the controversy surrounding Spore's DRM and the potential for irate customers to be looking towards piracy as a way to get past these restrictions, it can't be a good thing for the PC industry as a whole.

#26 usickenme

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:09 PM

More wrong/ lack of knowledge.

There have already been a few Wal-mart or Gamestop exclusive games. Granted not a "major release" (although some would argue that AC/DC isn't major either)

#27 Thomas96

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:23 PM

Good show guys... Everyone's already commented on the Final Fantasy issue. The only thing I can add to the mix is that by the time Final Fantasy XIII is released on PS3, perhaps the console will be cheaper.


Motorstorm 2: I have to agree that the Motorstorm series could benefit from having custom paint, and a different mode. But what happens after you've put in the custom pain, and custom icons, etc.? YOU RACE!!! Even motorstorm had some variety (that you don't know about) online, with the eliminator race type, and there was a small degree of combat that occurs between motorcycle riders. Criticizinb a racing game for racing is like criticizing a Doughnut for having a hole in it.

Some months ago, I called the Wii a "Interactive Boardgame" however, I like Wombat's description, calling the Wii a novelty. Both work well in my opinion, because Boardgames and Novelties are both one time purchases. Instead of buying addtional accesories for the boardgame (or Novelty) you just buy a different version - Wii 2 anyone?! (i.e. Monopoly StarWars).



Exclusive games at Gamestop - Good Idea. Exclusive games at Gamestop is something that they've already benefitted from. Example: For EVERY new release, gamestop had at least one or two days, where they had the game on the exact release date and other franchises, Walmart, Bestbuy, Target, Toys R Us, Circuit City was still processing the game through their inventory and store delivery networks. This is a benefit that the Babbages, Gamestops, EB Games of the world have enjoyed for years. Although, no one ever really documents the advantage that this provided Gamestop, but judging at the business practices of Major retailers, apparently it was an issue and now they're sure to get the game on the Shelf on Release day. Gamestop gets their inventory through UPS, directly to each store. There is no giant Gamestop warehouse, where all the gamestop inventory is housed, and then dispersed to the individual retailers. From what I've seen, they get their stuff right off the truck, which was a lot faster. But since, the rest of the retailers have taken this advantage away from Gamestop, then they must vie to find a new way to get some exclusive time with the game.

Early release for games that are preordered and paid in full. [this should be in my blog] Basically, the best time to sell a game is during the hype, before the reviews. How much better would Too Human have performed if people could have preordered with the promise of getting it early. (lets say about 3-4 weeks early) Buy during the hype, before Dyack, says anything crazy. These preorders can also be done at the trade shows as well.. at least it can give investors, and developers an ideal of how well the game might do, plus puts money in the bank before you even put the product on the shelf. The benefit of this practice helps gamestop as well, because if you buy a game early, and don't like it. Which we know if very likely to occur on occassions, then they can sell the game back to Gamestop. Gamestop can then sell used copies of the game on day one, or whenever they decide to do so.. maybe a week after release is good.

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#28 Wombat

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:29 PM

More wrong/ lack of knowledge.

There have already been a few Wal-mart or Gamestop exclusive games. Granted not a "major release" (although some would argue that AC/DC isn't major either)


we were only referring to a major release of the size of a madden type game, anno 1701 doest come close, please nitpick on the foreplay thread not mine. Also AC/DC rock my socks off, so I doubly think you are wrong

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:42 PM

This might be totally off-topic but that video of Tai's weird sleeping pattern was HILARIOUS!!!!!! Good stuff!

#30 h3ro

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 04:57 PM

Cheapy, the Zone mode for Wipeout wasn't removed. It was redone graphically. In the original mode, there were billboards all around the track which pulsed with the music as well as the pulsing of the floor/colors to go along with the music. The revised Zone mode now has only a few billboards (the original had them every few inches) and less changes pulsing.

Here is a comparison video I found. Its not as insane as before, but still looks pretty slick if you ask me. Great buy for $20 IMO. Oh and Wombat, an insider on GAF said that there will be a demo. :)

http://www.video.dpa...ild-comparison/