[quote name='The Mana Knight']
Almost no one will get the success again. While Wii has done well, I doubt it will be PS2 successful in the end.
As pointed out, the Wii has already passed where the PS2 was at the same point in it's life cycle. It's only going to sell more as it gets cheaper. That's assuming Nintendo ever drops the price. They are still flying off the shelf at full SRP two years after launch. That is huge.
[quote name='Ecofreak']The Wii will probably beat out the PS2 in pure hardware sales, but I believe that the amount of software sold on the Wii will be significantly below that of the PS2. [/QUOTE]
I know, different poster but it is funny to see the debate shift ... so when the hardware argument fails, switch to software sales. Got it.
[quote name='Blackout'] I stand by what I say, PS4 or whatever they decide to call it is going to be great because they get to use all the screw ups and stuff to improve on next gen. Home, online, social aspect, etc etc and all the other stuff they're trying to do will reach fruition in the next round. PS3 is just a huge ass growing pain.[/QUOTE]
By that token, the Gamecube should have hit it out of the park if Nintendo would have learned from their mistakes on the N64. They didn't.
[quote name='HeadRusch']Its great to see Sony Fanboys doing this complete 180 reversal. [/QUOTE]
I do find that ironic myself. 10 years ago Sony was right where the Wii is now. Quantity over Quality. They put out all kinds of shit for the PS1 while the N64 fans clung desperately to the Quality over Quantity angle. Today those roles are completely reversed. Now it's the Sony fans that are clinging to that Quality v. Quantity angle while Nintendo puts/allows the most shovelware/shit on their system.
[quote name='mang9432']the PS3 is certainly heavy enough to sink a ship.[/QUOTE]
... also ironic.
[quote name='The Mana Knight'][Ratchet & Clank]Best platformer this gen.[/QUOTE]
It was a great game but lets call a spade a spade, it has nothing on Super Mario Galaxy. I don't recall R&C being a GOTY contender, let alone winner(to some), in that regard.
Besides, the base model of the 360 is $200. Each subsequent price drop, I believe, will bring in fewer people since those who wanted one will have bought one already. [/QUOTE]
That's the exact opposite of how this works. More people buy in when the system is cheaper and the library is huge and cheap. Just look at the PS2.
[quote name='willardhaven']Blu-Ray will really take off when they start to offer entire television series on a couple of discs.[/QUOTE]
Won't happen, unless you want standard-def transfers on those blu-rays. The disc count will remain basically the same. Hi-def transfers eat up a lot of space which is why you still see TV seasons with only 4 hour programs per disc.
My guess, established user base both legit and non legit. Lemmings jumped on the bandwagon= profit[/QUOTE]
What the hell is a non-legit user base?
[quote name='tenzor']In my opinion
these are the 10 things Sony needs to do immediatley if they ever want to ever surpass Nintendo and Microsoft in this current console war:
1. Create a new SKU for a 120GB PS3 System for $399.99 with full backwards compatibility for PS2 games. Include a free Blu-Ray remote to sell it more as a Blu-Ray player for the people who are not hardcore gamers.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, if you are going to release and market your system as THE premier hi-def experience, #1 concern would be including a fucking hi-def cable. It doesn't even have to be HDMI, component can handle 1080i.
[quote name='mwynn']I have no idea what you are trying to say here.[/QUOTE]
The point is that whatever the next big game is, every six months or so, it is tossed around as the system savior... until sales numbers roll in and then the next big game is touted as the turning point. MGS4 being the exception.
[quote name='Thomas96']Uncharted 2 - http://www.neogaf.co...ad.php?t=345546
If anyone can find a 360 game that looks as good as this, please post the link to the pics....please.[/QUOTE]
Post some in-game video footage instead of photoshopped stills and then we'll talk.
I have all three and they all have their strong points. This 'sinking ship' was the kick in the nuts Sony needed to get those corporate egos in check. Competition breeds better products and price wars. Just look how far the XMB has come in two years. Does anyone here honestly think that would have happened if the PS3 had a Wii-like success out of the gates and left the 360 in the dust? Not a chance. They needed competition to force their hand.