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#31 xycury

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 08:50 PM

One huge advantage the iPod Touch/iPhone has over the DSi, at least as far as I can tell, is that downloaded software is not tied solely to the hardware it is downloaded to. That alone makes me not want a DSi. I can live without the GBA slot as long as they replace it with a virtual portable library. In fact I'd love that and consider it an improvement. However, if you can't play downloaded software on more then one DSi, that is truly a dealbreaker for me, and unfortunately all signs seem to indicate that they are taking the same approach that they took with the Wii.

Hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully they are taking an approach similar to Apple's. Apple allows you to install downloaded software on up to 6 iPhones/iPod touches, and that includes running the software on all of them at the same time, even networked. If Nintendo does that, I will buy a DSi not only for myself, but I'll upgrade my kids to DSi's too... well... eventually.


I'm thinking they don't want this because they'd lose out to extra $$.

How often do people change systems? I often laugh at the guy that states I've had 4 wii's ... wtf.. why?

I've had mine shortly after launch and still haven't come up with an excuse to swap out systems since it still works fine. Maybe needing the money...

But going back to the DS...

The big N probably doesn't want what you just described. You pay $5 or even $10 for title and share to every DSi you have... up to 5... that's about $25-$50 difference... or a loss of about 80%.

I really don't think Nintendo would even want to have that feature.

This is probably tied to pirating software too, they are huge on making sure none of that happens, and this would be a way to make sure they get max profit.

I too would glad to re-download... but then I have to think, why would I have to... only if I either break, or lose my system. Selling it or getting a new color isn't a big enough reason to nintendo in either way.


I really would like that freedom though.

Makes me wonder where all this information is going, on the internal memory or the SD? eventually it'll be hacked.

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 08:56 PM

it is already hacked as there are flash card that works.

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#33 xycury

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 09:17 PM

it is already hacked as there are flash card that works.


So does the DSware go on the card? or what? Is it transferable as long as it's hacked?

#34 paddlefoot

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 01:34 AM

Could a third party release software that allows the DSi to play MP3 files?

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 02:45 AM

For $30 more I rather get the iPod Touch.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 03:31 AM

Could a third party release software that allows the DSi to play MP3 files?


I just linked to like 40-something trademarks made by Nintendo in a single day some posts earlier.

And yes, I'm quite aware that they just make those for the hell of it. But why wouldn't they?

For $30 more I rather get the iPod Touch.


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By the way, what SHADE of blue is that blue DSi anyway? Blue Raspberry?

#37 foltzie

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 03:39 AM

By the way, what SHADE of blue is that blue DSi anyway? Blue Raspberry?


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Posted 19 February 2009 - 06:05 AM

Will DSiWare be a place for VC-style re-releases of older GBA and GBC games?

#39 MidnightScott

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 06:53 AM

Ooo I'm so excited, gonna get the Blue one at launch =D
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 02:27 PM

Definitely with botticus on this one, it simply feels too early for this particular launch, inevitable as it was. While I'm fairly certain that it'll do just fine, the DSi is not going to be for me for the foreseeable future.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 06:17 PM

$169.99 = £118.35

So where the hell die Nintendo get £150 for a DSi in the UK from?

They're just totally ripping us off because they know they can. They know it's going to sell a TONNE.

Oh not too keen on the blue either.

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#42 foltzie

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:49 PM

$169.99 = £118.35

So where the hell die Nintendo get £150 for a DSi in the UK from?

They're just totally ripping us off because they know they can. They know it's going to sell a TONNE.

Oh not too keen on the blue either.


Your numbers arent accounting for VAT.

$169.99 +%15 ~ $195.50

$195.50 = £136.65

So you are getting a markup, but its about half of what you are thinking.

#43 Mana Knight

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 09:24 PM

Your numbers arent accounting for VAT.

$169.99 +%15 ~ $195.50

$195.50 = £136.65

So you are getting a markup, but its about half of what you are thinking.

Pretty much. The price in the U.S. doesn't include taxes.

I plan to get a DSi down the road, because I really need to get a new DS one day. But right now I have to sell my old non-Lite DS somehow.
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#44 MidnightScott

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 11:28 PM

I preordered the Blue DSi, Pokémon Platinum, Rhythm Heaven, and MadWorld at GameStop today. Can't wait!

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#45 foltzie

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 04:01 AM

Updated the OP

Preorders are now available at Amazon and Gamestop (Black DSi, Blue DSi)

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 04:21 AM

Updated the OP Again...

Preorders:


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#48 xycury

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 05:07 AM

blue looks too cheap, like that nerf armor.... black is ok.

about the only think that peaks my interest ... larger screens, and dsware.

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 05:22 AM

blue looks too cheap, like that nerf armor.... black is ok.

about the only think that peaks my interest ... larger screens, and dsware.


Its the same plastic.

The blue is actually growing on me, I think I'll preorder that particular color.

#50 whoknows

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 05:26 AM

I'm tempted to pre-order one.

The useless features are making me want it.

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 07:33 AM

http://www.gamestop....LuXi7_guYJGYd_g

I find it odd that this video has a song for Rhythm Tengoku for DSi Sound, not Rhythm Heaven.

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 11:13 AM

$169.99 = £118.35

So where the hell die Nintendo get £150 for a DSi in the UK from?

They're just totally ripping us off because they know they can. They know it's going to sell a TONNE.

Oh not too keen on the blue either.


There are a lot of expenses in getting a product on the shelves in the UK and most of the EU that are much lower for US products. The current administration is looking to fix that.
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#53 Nohbdy

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 03:32 AM

So apparently something I've been wanting about the DSi has apparently turned out to be true. It would seem the DSi is a bit more of a viable and competent music player. Slightly. Check this: http://multiplayerbl...-nintendo-ds-i/

The DSi also supports playback of music files off of the SD card and will play these songs back even if you close the system, as long as headphones are plugged in.


Brilliant. Just like a PSP. Since the headphone jack actually has the mic port there, I wonder if Nintendo can actually create a small remote to control playback, just like an iPod?

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#54 creid

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 05:13 AM

IIRC, though, it only plays AAC files, no MP3.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 06:40 AM

Yeah, there's still that caveat. I'm willing to deal with that. I'm hopeful for a firmware update to play MP3s though.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 06:43 AM

The regular DS continues to play music when you close it as long as you have headphones plugged in.
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Posted 22 February 2009 - 12:34 AM

Yeah, there's still that caveat. I'm willing to deal with that. I'm hopeful for a firmware update to play MP3s though.


It's safe to say that it won't happen. MP3 is a proprietary format, with licensing fees and the like. AAC has no licensing costs and is a superior format to MP3 from a technical perspective, and conversion only takes a few seconds per song.

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 02:17 AM

So what bitrate would I use when converting?

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 03:26 AM

So what bitrate would I use when converting?


128 or 256. When I rerip my CDs I'm going to opt for 256, that is the bitrate for songs coming from iTunes Plus.

I'm tempted to keep two libraries, one ripped with a losses codec and one at 256 AAC, but I honestly cant tell the difference as it is.

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 04:12 AM

I mean, from other MP3s. Yeah, I know, I'm going to take a hit. Say it anyway. Or should I go for a "lossless" encoding?