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#31 TimDJ84

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 05:40 PM

Wombat,you say you watch Burn Notice and the Killzone 2 commercials have been running on USA for sure...Saw one on Monday

#32 dragon-x

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 05:58 PM

Hi guys/girls,

1st of all regarding your "Xbox Vista" statement; CheapyD & Wombat, you guys are a little off.

I know that you guys are suffering response times when it gets to the new dashboard (besides a small percent of people who AREN'T)
I'll tell you why:
I own a Xbox 360 Elite, and just the other day it decided to die on me!
I got pissed and came straight to the CAG site to see if there were any special deals just in case I decided to buy a new Xbox 360!
Anyway, I waited a couple of days, then ended up buying one (Arcade version) via Dell (thanks to the CAG site)!
A few days passed before I received my new console, where in the meantime I was surfing the forums and read of people who have already received theirs and claimed that Dell have indeed sent out the Jasper versions, I was really happy about that bit, because we all know that it's suppose to be more reliable.
So the day arrived and I got my new Xbox 360, I took it out of the box and plugged it in.
After it was in place and set up properly, I turned it on. Once it came on I got a prompt message to update my dashboard version; I did so.
After the update was complete I went to the system settings to see that the Jasper does indeed include it's very own onboard MU (yes, a built in Memory Unit of 256MB onboard).
After giving a small smile and thinking "cool", I attached my 120GB HDD from my elite and moved important system files to the MU (like iPod support update, Themes etc..), I then redownloaded my Halo 3 Premium theme and applied it to my new system.
When I was done and I finally started using my system I was blown away by the response time the Xbox was giving me! it improved not by 50% but by 85%, it's actually a treat to bring up the new menu/friends list without being scared of the Dashboard LAG, and this is all thanks to the new Jasper motherboard with it's own built-in MU, which as you've read reduces the Dashboard lag.

There you have it, Jasper FTW!

#33 TimDJ84

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 06:11 PM

Shellshock 2 eh?
I remember Shellshock Nam 67 on PS2....it was unsettling to see the various severed heads propped on sticks....like man just walking through in this war seeing feelow soldiers...it was just interesting.Had fun with it though

#34 TheAggroCraig

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 06:28 PM

Cheapy if you're ever looking to ditch your DSi, I'll gladly take it off your hands.

And great show this week, keep it up.

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#35 Wombat

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 06:28 PM

Hi guys/girls,

1st of all regarding your "Xbox Vista" statement; CheapyD & Wombat, you guys are a little off.

I know that you guys are suffering response times when it gets to the new dashboard (besides a small percent of people who AREN'T)
I'll tell you why:
I own a Xbox 360 Elite, and just the other day it decided to die on me!
I got pissed and came straight to the CAG site to see if there were any special deals just in case I decided to buy a new Xbox 360!
Anyway, I waited a couple of days, then ended up buying one (Arcade version) via Dell (thanks to the CAG site)!
A few days passed before I received my new console, where in the meantime I was surfing the forums and read of people who have already received theirs and claimed that Dell have indeed sent out the Jasper versions, I was really happy about that bit, because we all know that it's suppose to be more reliable.
So the day arrived and I got my new Xbox 360, I took it out of the box and plugged it in.
After it was in place and set up properly, I turned it on. Once it came on I got a prompt message to update my dashboard version; I did so.
After the update was complete I went to the system settings to see that the Jasper does indeed include it's very own onboard MU (yes, a built in Memory Unit of 256MB onboard).
After giving a small smile and thinking "cool", I attached my 120GB HDD from my elite and moved important system files to the MU (like iPod support update, Themes etc..), I then redownloaded my Halo 3 Premium theme and applied it to my new system.
When I was done and I finally started using my system I was blown away by the response time the Xbox was giving me! it improved not by 50% but by 85%, it's actually a treat to bring up the new menu/friends list without being scared of the Dashboard LAG, and this is all thanks to the new Jasper motherboard with it's own built-in MU, which as you've read reduces the Dashboard lag.

There you have it, Jasper FTW!


You realize you are agreeing with us? You see releasing an OS that isn't optimal for all 360's yet forcing an upgrade is kinda wrong. Don't you think?

#36 dragon-x

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 06:39 PM

You realize you are agreeing with us? You see releasing an OS that isn't optimal for all 360's yet forcing an upgrade is kinda wrong. Don't you think?

LOL! indeed, I agree with every word you're saying - but you can't disagree that MS did solve the problem...................... in some way, don't get me wrong, I think they should find a proper solution for everyone who has an Xbox 360 regardless of the mobo.
I was just stating that the new Jasper is basically the new Windows 7 (if you will).

#37 blazsox

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 06:50 PM

Ironic that both the sequels to KillZone and ShellShock are both releasing this week. Both of which were originated by Guerrilla Games, though obviously ShellShock 2 was handled by a diff. developer.
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#38 KingBroly

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 06:53 PM

You realize you are agreeing with us? You see releasing an OS that isn't optimal for all 360's yet forcing an upgrade is kinda wrong. Don't you think?


Wombat, you're on fire this week.
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#39 DarkNessBear

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 06:53 PM

Uh, whats with all this talk of the NXE is faster? Is there a fix for mine than? Cause EVERYTHING on my NXE loads really friggen slow. Do I have to clear the cache or something?

My quick launch loads slow as hell, MY avatars load slow as hell, my friends list loads SUPER slow as hell.
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#40 thorbahn3

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 07:27 PM

As for the skin care question, I saw something on TV that said Japanese women really take care of their skin so I wanted to know if it was true.
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#41 LiK

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 07:50 PM

Wombat, your new mic sounds excellent! :D
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#42 DJSteel

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 07:52 PM

Wall-E is a great movie.. Cheapy you need to watch that.

Killzone 2 Demo - It didn't want to publicize when or even if a demo would come to the PSN Store, because it would have cut down on a lot of the pre-orders. People would have treated it like Gears of War, in which a demo is never released to the public on the online marketplace.

The Conduit - It could work if it follows the Metroid Wii controls.. graphically, you can cheat that with different styles.

Street Fighter IV + Pricing of games - I listened to you guys discuss about prices for games being too uniform and that they should be more fluid to the economy and quality of the game. I agree for the most part, but Street Fighter IV is a game in which I believe should never be 60 bucks. Yes it's got the history, and it has always been a top five fighting game, but even with that is it worth 60 bucks?

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#43 HuBu

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 07:53 PM

I am on a 4 day work week also. Sucks but its better than cutting heads.

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#44 Thomas96

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 08:21 PM

You realize you are agreeing with us? You see releasing an OS that isn't optimal for all 360's yet forcing an upgrade is kinda wrong. Don't you think?


Wrong? MS Wrong? MS has been forcing people to upgrade almost since day one. MS doesn't care about the upgrading of an OS, they rather you upgrade the entire system. RROD was wrong, but hey its getting people to buy more systems.
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#45 dragon-x

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 08:25 PM

Uh, whats with all this talk of the NXE is faster? Is there a fix for mine than? Cause EVERYTHING on my NXE loads really friggen slow. Do I have to clear the cache or something?

My quick launch loads slow as hell, MY avatars load slow as hell, my friends list loads SUPER slow as hell.

read my post bro!

#46 ArthurDigbySellers

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 08:31 PM

I definitely agree with Cheapy that current DS Lite owners should probably stick with what they have over upgrading to the DSi, but I am so tired of hearing how crappy the DSi camera is.

The DSi screen resolution is 256x192. The DSi's .3 Megapixel camera takes a 640x480 image which is over 2x the size of the actual screens. With only 265 MB of internal memory, having higher resolution cameras in the DSi would eat that up pretty quick. Sure you could stick an SD card in there to expand your storage capacity, but Nintendo develops for the lowest common denominator so they have to assume the internal memory will be what most people will stick with.

There are plenty of other reasons not to upgrade to the DSi, the $170 price point being the biggest factor IMO, than the "shitty" cameras.

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#47 ArthurDigbySellers

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 08:37 PM

As for the skin care question, I saw something on TV that said Japanese women really take care of their skin so I wanted to know if it was true.


"Something on TV" was Oprah. Don't act like you don't know. They just re-ran that episode last week. I know because my wife DVRs every show and she said that it was a re-run of the show that talked about how some Japanese women put some kind of bird shit powder on their face.

So thorbahn3 watches Oprah. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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#48 LiK

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 08:53 PM

Cheapy, just wanted to let you know that if you played the original Yakuza games, you can upgrade the main guy's moves and abilities. as you upgrade him, he gains some awesome new attacks that look absolutely painful. i think you should get it and have your wife translate it. it's one of my fave games ever. i preordered the japanese one even though i don't know any Japanese. :)
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#49 seventh_sage

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 08:57 PM

Ok, so i would like to give my two cents about the Xbox dashboard. Last week when you guys talked about it, it sounded like you were saying that when you hit the guide button it takes forever for the guide to come up, which I have never had that problem since NXE. This week it sounds more like you are saying that once you get the guide up it takes forever to make it go away, which is a problem I've recently started to have. When the NXE originally launched I had no problem opening or closing the guide quickly. Now it seems as though it doesn't want to close for whatever reason, but it doesn't always do it either. Sometimes it will open & close just fine but others it will feel like it's freezing the machine up it takes so long. But honestly this is the exact opposite of the problem I had with "Xbox XP" aka the original dashboard (OD). Whenever I would push the guide button on the OD it would take forever to open up, but it would close super quickly. You said you never had any trouble with the OD, well that's great for you. But for me it's pretty much the same thing just in a different order. So personally I would say its a wash as far as the guide opening & closing is concerned. There are some other things that I really liked about the OD & somethings that I really like about NXE. The truth is you can't always get what you want, but as long as it works at least as well as the previos model then it's ok in my book. & i would say overall NXE is at least as good as the OD, but that's just my opinion.

#50 banodyne

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 09:02 PM

Didn't have a problem with the old dashboard. Don't have a problem with new one.

#51 Jicky Jacks

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 09:03 PM

Wombat, congrats on your little one be able to crawl and climb so early. Both my boys started WALKING at 7 months! Our oldest never even crawled; just went straight to walking. Now that's odd and was frightening for us too. They were climbing up our hardwood steps to the second floor and back down at that point too and our stairs are laid out in a way that it was impossible to block them. So that was fun and terrifying for many months. So good luck keeping Sabrina in check now that she's mobile.:lol:

#52 KillingMachine

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 09:28 PM

Xbox Vista?!?! I'm not coming to the site anymore! ;)

#53 H.Cornerstone

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 09:41 PM

Cheapy, please stop having new songs that ruin old classic songs as the intro. They are awful

And I don't understand all the hate towards Vista. I have it and love it.

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 09:44 PM

What story telling is there to be had with "Wall-E" being said 50 times with obvious loopholes like
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And the live action Fred Willard was so awkwardly placed.

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#55 LiK

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 09:45 PM

Cheapy, please stop having new songs that ruin old classic songs as the intro. They are awful

And I don't understand all the hate towards Vista. I have it and love it.


woohoo, Cheapy and Wombat pissed off the Sony crowd last week. i guess it's MS's turn now. can't wait to hear what the CAGcast says about Nintendo next week! :applause:
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#56 thenexus6

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:10 PM

Great show as always guys.

I agree with the NXE it's slow for me, though it doesn't sound as slow compared to you though. I also agree with Wombat that when I go onto my friends list in avatar form if one of my friends is in a party it shows up with their gamertags. I don't care about their gamertags, I don't even know them so why would I want to see their names?

Other annoyances: Empty boxart when friends are playing, checking/adding microsoft points to your account takes ages, the "ghost" avatars showing up next to friends.

Oh also I like the idea of having the short video podcasts in the week hopefully something happens with that.

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#57 Walt Jay

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:26 PM

Hi guys/girls,

1st of all regarding your "Xbox Vista" statement; CheapyD & Wombat, you guys are a little off.

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There you have it, Jasper FTW!


Interesting story. I wonder if I'd have the same result if I did what you did on an external MU that I keep plugged into my console.
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#58 maxim2boobles

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:37 PM

I don't agree with your comment the NXE is like vista because it's not an operating system , but it's a user interface. Also vista is not bad, i switched from mac to pc because i was tired of paying premium for hardware and software products. I'm currently enjoying vista and nxe and i'm using the awesome media sharing to stream my music and live shows. It all depends on persons experience with the product.

#59 Jobbercho

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:54 PM

I don't agree with your comment the NXE is like vista because it's not an operating system , but it's a user interface.

You missed the point completely.
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#60 dragon-x

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 11:33 PM

Interesting story. I wonder if I'd have the same result if I did what you did on an external MU that I keep plugged into my console.

I think it's worth a shot! just backup all your data before hand :bouncy: