CAGcast #154: Rantastic!

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[preview][img-l=4668]3078[/img-l]CheapyD rants about Resident Evil 5's $5 multiplayer DLC and has extreme Peggle fever, while Wombat talks GTA: Chinatown Wars and gives RE5 impressions. We've also got the latest shopping and industry news, new releases, your CAGbag questions and so much more!

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Tai Walks...A Lot! (video)
 
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Hah! Those mixups at the beginnings always get me.
Edit: You mentioned Applemilk. Holy crap internet.
 
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Yay, have been waiting for this since I got home earlier today.
Edit: I thought this was a very funny episode, and agreed with all of your rants. How can they charge $90 for RE5 (LE) and not include the multiplayer?
 
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RE: PSP2...

If Sony were to turn the PSP2 into a casual device it would make more sense for them to throw some hardware into their Ericson phones. Going casual doesn't really make much sense for Sony. DS owns that market, like you said, no DS soccer mom would buy a PSP2.

I believe the casual market will kind of even out... Some casual gamers will become the core but the majority will not. In this economy casual gamers won't buy games. Most are fine with Mario Party DS or Wii Sports for another year; the hardcore will continue to buy games.


Play Killzone 2 again for game night. :)
 
Thanks for staying true to the twitter updates Cheapy!

EDIT: haha Wombat's still not in the CAG team
 
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[quote name='DesertEagleXIX']Just noticed one of your tags says, "podast". Can I buy a "C"?[/quote]


C isn't a vowel....
 
Good lord, I don't give two fucks about Jimmy Chu!!! Wombat is right, you've talked about him 5 times now and every time you mention him he gets less and less entertaining.
 
whoever it was that tried to defend indy 4 is a fucktard. its not a matter of age that you see it at thats makes it good or not. that slike saying oh if you hated the new superman and loved the old one its because you grew up with one and not the other. and then you could say the same for the original star wars trilogy vs the star wars prequels. no. those movies mentioned sucked and they sucked because they were lazy cheap cashins. the new superman could have been better but having a fruity looking lex luthor didnt help that film at all.

indy 4 was shit. they basically came up with the situations in the script by randomly shouting out diff exciting action moments and then jumbling them together like the soul train jumble board hoping that something would come of it and surprise suprise they ended up with a bomb proof fridge and indy , a douchebag swinging in the tress with monkeys and an old chick who was never all that hott.

the film was shit anybody who says dfferent is either a retard or one of george lucas' slaves. we should take a cue from the simpsons and round up everyone who liked indy 4, the star wars prequels and transformers( that new flick not the cartoon) and put them on a rocket and send it to the sun.
 
Does Cheapy really complain about the $5 download of an additional feature that wasn't present in the extremely highly rated previous game in the series? If so I'm finally done with the CAGcast. I've stuck with it from the beginning, but I've been struggling with Wombat's rants lately as they have become more idiotic over time.

I'm done with 1Up for the same reason. I was a hardcore cheap ass gamer well before I started working for a game company but I'm becoming more and more disenchanted with the gaming media and the crap they spread to feed off of their fans. If they made any attempt to understand the business side of things they'd realize how completely deconstructive this irrational criticism is. It's a shame too because most companies nowadays are making concerted efforts to listen to their fans.
 
Hey Cheapy,

Big fan of yours and Stern's - his influence on you is obvious, and I think it's the reason that you've got the best and most interesting videogames podcast.

Being a New York native and avid Stern fan, have you ever crossed paths with any Stern show regulars?

I think you should try to get on his show. I'm sure if you could get Shima to agree to take off her clothes, you could play Win Fred's Money, or Hottest Chick with the Ugliest Guy, or Couples/Pornstar dating game or something like that... and while there, you could get in a CAG plug or two. Great promotional opportunity, and a chance to meet an icon. Have you ever considered doing such a thing?

Keep up the great work!
 
I promise to never buy another CAGcast again. I cant believe gamers can have opinions can and be entertaining. Its so terrible.
 
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If you're still mad about Capcom Cheapy, go talk to your wife. I bet she'll give you the same response she did when you got upset with Kotaku. It is lame of Capcom, but damn, cheapy calm down.
 
[quote name='antlp89']That is one sick dumb ass intro song.[/quote]

Fixed. ;)

I agree with Cheapy that Capcom charging for an online mode is ridiculous, but I don't think it's really something worth getting that upset over. As a company, they can do whatever the hell they want. It sucks for us, but that's the way it works. If you don't like it, there's not much you can do about it (other than don't buy it). If Capcom cared about their fans, they wouldn't do this crap in the first place. Their reputation will suffer because of it.
 
Woah, Wombat talkin' about his trip to Florida surprised me, especially when he said how close to Disney they live.

I live two to three hours away from Disney, here in Hollywood, FL.

Weather's been pretty good past couple of weeks, so hopefully you enjoy your stay down here Wombat.
 
Great show guys, cheapys comment about Connect 4 was fucking amazing "its like tic tac toe for retarded people" :D

This really is the perfect length of the cagcast, you don't sound rushed and it's more laid back, which i love, a rushed show can really ruin the harmony of the show.

Cheers
SwoXx
 
Solid episode. I enjoyed the lack of baby talk :) Cheapy, if you're bored you really should check out the Adam Corolla podcast. I enjoy it, and I too listen to Howard Stern frequently.
 
Hey Cheapy, were you trying to play "Joust" with the headboard dildo at the "Luv Hotel" when you banged your head!!?
 
[quote name='jkanownik']Does Cheapy really complain about the $5 download of an additional feature that wasn't present in the extremely highly rated previous game in the series? If so I'm finally done with the CAGcast. I've stuck with it from the beginning, but I've been struggling with Wombat's rants lately as they have become more idiotic over time.

I'm done with 1Up for the same reason. I was a hardcore cheap ass gamer well before I started working for a game company but I'm becoming more and more disenchanted with the gaming media and the crap they spread to feed off of their fans. If they made any attempt to understand the business side of things they'd realize how completely deconstructive this irrational criticism is. It's a shame too because most companies nowadays are making concerted efforts to listen to their fans.[/QUOTE]

I am missing your point, what does no online multiplyer in RE4 have to do with RE5? Halo one didn't have online MP, should they have charged extra for it in Halo 2? As someone who works for a game company your comment has saddened me on the sense of entitlement the industry seems to have towards the people that fund your livelihood.
 
100% AGREE with Cheapy D over the RE$5 B/s. However these "CAGS" that are defending CAPCOM and yelling at cheapy must have been dropped as a baby. Your all sick fucks. sick in the fucking head.

If you took the time to listen to the show you would know that COMPLAINING online can lead to CHANGE. And let me tell you. capcom needs to make some fucking changes. BIG fucking ones..


fuck DLC is hasnt done anything for me :drool:

 
i like rants...who doesn't? i have no friends on psn. it sounds pathetic, i know. so eomeone add me! I play killzone2.

 
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Yeah, Cheapy D needs to buy the Joust liscense and put it on the ipod/iphone as part of the Atari classics for the iphone.
 
Great show. I'm actually getting tired of all the Capcom rants, cause everyone knows that Capcom is wrong in charging for things that shouldn't cost anything. I just find it annoying since I don't really give a damn about Resident Evil 5 or Street Fighter 4.
 
[quote name='RonWorkman']I promise to never buy another CAGcast again. I cant believe gamers can have opinions can and be entertaining. Its so terrible.[/quote]
ESOL? Mother fucker?
;)
 
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I thought you were dead on about the physicality of the board games being important to their enjoyment.
 
Loved the show, especially when CheapyD says "i'm a mother fuckin pimp"

The intro song was boss too (track 2 on that album, is just plain terrible)

P.s. Cheapy.. new MF DOOM album out next week. sweeet.
 
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Yay, another CagCast, can't wait to get back home to listen!

Now, I don't know how to make this not sound creepy, but I think we all agree that the "Tai Walks" video was much better with Cheapy's wife.
 
whoa, i thought i was listening to an old episode. i think Cheapy repeated that Danny Choo and his Stormtrooper outfit story every other week. ;)

Wombat, haha, i can't believe that guy hung up on you. as for the second guy, kudos to Paul! :lol:

thumbs up to Cheapy for more Stern talk!

as for the Indy IV discussion, Wombat, you are spot on about the themes in the previous 3 movies. we went from religions and magic to aliens and bad CGI. well said my man. :)
 
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My friend Cindy works as the makeup artists for the Jimmy Fallon show. She was actually on one of the skits last Thursday. I'll ask her if she knows how hard it will be to get on the show.
 
Not sure if this was ever brought up on the last episode thread, but if you are going to harp on the lead refrigerator of Indy IV, you can't ignore the preposterousness of surviving a 1000 ft+ fall from a plane in an INFLATATABLE RAFT in Indy II. That has always bugged the crap out of me.
 
[quote name='willc23']Not sure if this was ever brought up on the last episode thread, but if you are going to harp on the lead refrigerator of Indy IV, you can't ignore the preposterousness of surviving a 1000 ft+ fall from a plane in an INFLATATABLE RAFT in Indy II. That has always bugged the crap out of me.[/quote]

I remember seeing one episode of Mythbusters where they did just that. They strapped a Crash Dummie in a inflatable raft and tossed him from a helicopter. He actually landed without one scratch!

Granted, the raft almost flipped a couple of times, and they did say it's extremely risk, but hey, it can be done!
 
[quote name='Wombat']I am missing your point, what does no online multiplyer in RE4 have to do with RE5? Halo one didn't have online MP, should they have charged extra for it in Halo 2? As someone who works for a game company your comment has saddened me on the sense of entitlement the industry seems to have towards the people that fund your livelihood.[/quote]

Have you played RE5? I'm over 15 hours played and will easily hit 30 hours before I'm done with the straight retail version. You're getting more for you money with RE5 than 95% of the other games on the market. The only way you'd have a valid point complaining about the DLC is if you found that the retail release wasn't worth the price.

I personally think the RE5 DLC is a very positive move. Rather than sacrificing development resources on a half assed multiplayer mode that people may or may not want we now get a choice as consumers as to whether or not we want to pay for it. I've played a shitload of games where I would have much rather not had a multiplayer mode and had the resources that were dedicated to MP applied to the single player game (or alternatively release a slighly cheaper game without the MP that no one cared about). RE5 is giving me exactly that.

Look. I'm taking time out of my busy day because I care very passionately about video games. I really wanted to get into work early this morning to get some stuff done but I'm writing this instead. I've been lucky enough to turn my passion into a career. Coming from the outside in I've been able to see the rationale for a lot of the things I questioned before I knew the other side of the story. I've been in meetings where I've spoken out and told people they don't understand their customers. I've given some pretty high level people candid feedback about the quality of certain games when I thought there were valid issues from a consumer standpoint. I rather foolhardedly pissed off one of the top marketing guys when I said (in not so many words) that he was grossly overestimating the consumer appeal of a certain game in a large meeting. I've repeatedly told people why as a consumer I prefer a competitive product and will continue to do so. Just last week I told a senior VP that there was only $30 in value to most consumers in a game they're releasing for $60.

I play welll over 20 hours a week and I listen to around 10 hours in gaming podcasts. I love it when I hear valid complaints that can be used constructively, but decisions aren't made in a vacuum. They are made in an environment where profit is the main motive. As consumers it is much more constructive to embrace that fact than to fight it. I am trying to find the best 10 hours in podcasts I can find to listen to and right now the CAGcast is out.
 
My biggest complaint that the re5 MP DLC is a scam? It's in the fucking strategy guide! I'm not talking about a small coming soon advertisement or paragraph, but 6 pages of breakdown on the modes and maps. So they're saying, "Here's this complete resource on our game and all the cool things about it. Oh that section? If you want to experience that section, you'll have to shell out $5 more. Until then, just pretend it doesn't exist." IMO that's ridiculous.
 
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