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CAGcast #156: Buddy, Can You Spare a Fish Sandwich?


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#61 mykevermin

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 10:26 PM

Another CagCast, another half-baked on its best day overthought and underdeveloped Wombat anti-Sony thesis. Netflix is overpricing *one* format, surely a slender margin of its overall mailings, in order to kill off Blu-Ray as a format?

Preposterous at best, and immature logic no matter the case.

DVDs are sent in the mail too, you know. At least in the continuous 48 states, they are. How do your dvds come in the mail? So if they increased rates for all users it might make sense (if we ignore how dreadful the streaming selection is) - but for a tiny percentage of Netflix users? I don't pay extra for Blu-Rays, so my rates haven't changed. They're still mailing stuff to me.

Moreover, to argue that Netflix wants to go full streaming, you have to make the case that their streaming offerings right now can even begin to compensate for their disc offerings. With the scant selection they have, it's actually beyond preposterous to think that this is their diabolical scheme. I can get "Heroes," "Superbad," "Rockabilly Vampire," "Dumpster Baby," "Hell's Bloody Devils," and "Spies Like Us." Their streaming offering shows a lot of promise, but it certainly won't satisfy consumer demands for hits and new releases.

It's quite amusing how you continually manage to identify these absurd logical chasms in your mind, and that they seem to perpetually deal with Sony.

My only concern is a suggestion to you: folks listen to the CagCast, and you are a person who has influence over other people's opinions. Take that responsibly, and simply think for a minute before you open your mouth in the future.
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#62 Wombat

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 11:35 PM

Another CagCast, another half-baked on its best day overthought and underdeveloped Wombat anti-Sony thesis. Netflix is overpricing *one* format, surely a slender margin of its overall mailings, in order to kill off Blu-Ray as a format?

Preposterous at best, and immature logic no matter the case.

DVDs are sent in the mail too, you know. At least in the continuous 48 states, they are. How do your dvds come in the mail? So if they increased rates for all users it might make sense (if we ignore how dreadful the streaming selection is) - but for a tiny percentage of Netflix users? I don't pay extra for Blu-Rays, so my rates haven't changed. They're still mailing stuff to me.

Moreover, to argue that Netflix wants to go full streaming, you have to make the case that their streaming offerings right now can even begin to compensate for their disc offerings. With the scant selection they have, it's actually beyond preposterous to think that this is their diabolical scheme. I can get "Heroes," "Superbad," "Rockabilly Vampire," "Dumpster Baby," "Hell's Bloody Devils," and "Spies Like Us." Their streaming offering shows a lot of promise, but it certainly won't satisfy consumer demands for hits and new releases.

It's quite amusing how you continually manage to identify these absurd logical chasms in your mind, and that they seem to perpetually deal with Sony.

My only concern is a suggestion to you: folks listen to the CagCast, and you are a person who has influence over other people's opinions. Take that responsibly, and simply think for a minute before you open your mouth in the future.


Wasn't that Cheapy's theory, I don't recall saying that?

#63 XTommyDonX

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 11:37 PM

Great show!

Cheapy, after discovering and loving Dark Sector, do you think that you will be encouraged to search for other underrated and now cheap games that you may have overlooked in the past?
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#64 XTommyDonX

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 11:41 PM

this podcast could've been called thorban friskytenuki cheapyd and wombats podcast. it is as if they've bribed cheapyD, so they can be mentioned every week due to their mediocerly average questions. (they're basically attention freaks, also known as narcissistic people). my conspiracy may be correct, because Ive been listning to alot of shows lately (since the cagcast is pretty irrelevant) and it is obvious that something is going on between cheapyd, frisky and thorbahn..


The CAGcast is irrelevant? You've been listening to other shows lately? Then why continue listening to this particular show? Admit it, you just can't get enough. 8-)
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#65 bickle

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 11:47 PM

Hey guys, love the show but I humbly request that you stop using the "where to better spend money on" argument.


I totally disagree. It is especially relevant for a site about getting the most value for the money. Plus, it's entertaining and creates unique comparisons.

#66 rattlemonster

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 11:50 PM

Wombat, what was that Twitter contest you're in? I don't see anything in the show notes.

#67 bickle

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 11:54 PM

What was the problem you had with the X4's and Dark Sector? I recently picked up a pair and have had some odd 'popping' in games. Specifically during load explosions, it sounds like it just pops and/or cuts out. It's very prevalent in the new Tomb Raider, and in the last part of Gears of War 2 when you are riding the Brumak (the bigass monster with guns).

#68 Z_meista

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 12:21 AM

too bad you weren't able to contact wombat for your april fool's prank..

#69 tk216

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 12:30 AM

I recently started listening to the CAG Cast, and I'm really enjoying it.

I just have one thing to say about the DLC issue... the site is called "Cheap Ass Gamer". So everyone should just stop complaining that CheapyD is.... well, cheap! We pretty much all are!

#70 listener lost

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 12:45 AM

Cheapy your question to Wombat asking him if the lady in the Wendy's line was an African American woman really rubbed me the wrong way. This is your show and you have the creative freedom to insinuate what like and make statements that add "color" to your commentary but as an African American listener I was offended. The economy is bad for everyone, and your statement was out right f*cked up. Wombat you did a very tackful job of not getting sucked into Cheapy's bullsh*t. I'm a fairly new listener to the CAGcast and I've enjoyed the past few episodes but after hearing that comment I had to turn off the podcast. I'm sorry but you all just lost a listener and Cheapy you lost my respect.

#71 terpkristin

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 01:01 AM

Today's CAGCast made my fair normal day pretty good. Or, it may have been the wine I was drinking while listening to the 'cast. ;)

All in all, I enjoyed the show, excepting what I've already Twittered to Wombat. Though, I must add, Wombat, in order to avoid having to deal with people in line, 2 words: drive thru (it looks really funny with "through" spelled correctly). Also, "She likes to smack it because it makes a funny noise," is not something I'd expect a father to say about his daughter. :D

Regarding sex/sexiness in games, they never have hot guys in games for me. But for the girls, it seems that as the Final Fantasy series has gone on, the female characters have bigger and bigger breasts. I had a roommate who actually played games like Final Fantasy X-2 because it featured all the girls. Of course, it may be a Japan thing...
There was also that recent-ish game, Bikini Samurai Squad (or something like that). I think it was trying to capitalize on the young male market. \

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#72 HovaEscobar

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 01:46 AM

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#73 lokizz

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 01:53 AM

man cheapy and wombat are pretty damn racist. why would someone wait in line only to beg someone to get them a sandwhich? just cause she said what she said doesnt mean she wanted you to buy her one. thats just like if a guy is standing next to you and says " man i havent had in action in months dude i just gotta get laid" does that mean he wants soem of your man meat? no.

that said the whole infected africans with shields and spears was kind of a wow that is kinda racist moment especilly since none of the infected in re 4 had sombreros and whispy mustaches. not to mention why is it so many africans had bottles as weapons?

the game is ok but its not surprising that ti went this way. as i recall they did the same 180 with the dino crisis series. the first was more survival horror and then they changed the second game into an action game.

#74 Xavin

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 02:04 AM

Cheapy, I'm disappointed, I suggested Dark Sector, you really like it, then you don't even mention me (if you were gonna get it anyway, I'm gonna feel like a dick lol).

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#75 ObiBen

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 02:37 AM

Another great show. I have to agree with Cheapy about BioShock 2. I recently read the Game Informer article about it, and it gave me a mixture of excitement and dread. I think that playing as a Big Daddy is somewhat of a cop out rather than creating a new story about someone finding Rapture. I'll save my judgement until I play it, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

I too have been contemplating picking up Dark Sector since it is so cheap. I played the demo and I thought it was alright, and for $10 what do I have to loose ($10 I guess)? Cheapy, you should come up with some sort of Cheap Ass Seal of Approval and you can contact game companies to have them put it on their games when they reach a good price for us CAGs.

#76 fatbeer

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 02:41 AM

No song and dance for fish sandwich? God, I really hate that commercial.


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#77 mrfreeziexp

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 03:03 AM

http://kotaku.com/52...-disc-all-along

Wombat was right, RE5 multiplayer is on the disc. Fuck you, Capcom.
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#78 spoo

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:37 AM

Great show Cheapy and Wombat, one of the best in a few months IMHO.
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#79 rogueweapon

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:47 AM

Good show cheap asses. the Donner Superman II ending sucked *SPOILER*, rewinding time was already done in part 1, and why the fock would he let Zod live after killing him? The movie definitely didn't hold up over time. That franchise needs another reboot.
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#80 Razzuel

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:48 AM

http://kotaku.com/52...-disc-all-along

Wombat was right, RE5 multiplayer is on the disc. Fuck you, Capcom.


Actually that doesn't mean anything. You cannot guarantee what that 1.8 MB contains, so you shouldn't jump to conclusions. I have not purchased the content so I do not know if it adds any new assets, but if all they need to do is update the code, then 1.8 MB is a reasonable size for more lines of code. I am not defending their choice to sell a versus mode—I am against it—but we cannot simply assume they are guilty.

Anyway, you are a bastard, Cheapy. I played the demo of Dark Sector and I did not like it that much, but from the way you were talking about it I got curious in playing it again. I mean nine dollars is really cheap, but I have already spent more than enough money this month. Agh! Don't tempt me! But it's only nine dollars; plus free shipping at Newegg!

On the other hand, I have to buy Penny Arcade Episode 1 at ten dollars—rather I just did not that long ago. I enjoyed the demo, but ten dollars is the price this game should have been when it was released.

#81 Thwip

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 04:52 AM

I've been a fan of the CAGcast for a long time, but this episode....

It was the Fish sandwich story. Why did Cheapy all of the sudden assume the woman was black? You've made jokes about black people in the past that all came off as just jokes, but this was a bit more unsettling. Never thought this before,but I think Cheapy actually doesn't like black people. This is extremely disappointing because, as a black man, I just can't listen to this anymore.

#82 spoo

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 05:00 AM

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#83 Thwip

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 05:02 AM

Wow, clever. Too bad you can never get any serious discussion on the internet. It's all just "hilarious" pictures.

#84 spoo

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 05:07 AM

Wow, clever. Too bad you can never get any serious discussion on the internet. It's all just "hilarious" pictures.


Come on, not even a smile from that picture? :grouphug:
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#85 mrfreeziexp

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 05:08 AM

Actually that doesn't mean anything. You cannot guarantee what that 1.8 MB contains, so you shouldn't jump to conclusions. I have not purchased the content so I do not know if it adds any new assets, but if all they need to do is update the code, then 1.8 MB is a reasonable size for more lines of code. I am not defending their choice to sell a versus mode—I am against it—but we cannot simply assume they are guilty.

Anyway, you are a bastard, Cheapy. I played the demo of Dark Sector and I did not like it that much, but from the way you were talking about it I got curious in playing it again. I mean nine dollars is really cheap, but I have already spent more than enough money this month. Agh! Don't tempt me! But it's only nine dollars; plus free shipping at Newegg!

On the other hand, I have to buy Penny Arcade Episode 1 at ten dollars—rather I just did not that long ago. I enjoyed the demo, but ten dollars is the price this game should have been when it was released.



Lol, an entire multiplayer mode can NOT be only 1.8mb..... without, at the very least, some content already on the disc.
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#86 DietCokeJunkey

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 05:08 AM

Wow, clever. Too bad you can never get any serious discussion on the internet. It's all just "hilarious" pictures.

Are you trying to start up a "discussion" about accusing people of being racist?

I'll take a picture over that "discussion."

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#87 Thwip

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 05:10 AM

Are you trying to start up a "discussion" about accusing people of being racist?

I'll take a picture over that "discussion."


You're right. Ignore and move on. Thats the solution.

I think I see who the real audience for this show is.

#88 mrfreeziexp

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 05:12 AM

I've been a fan of the CAGcast for a long time, but this episode....

It was the Fish sandwich story. Why did Cheapy all of the sudden assume the woman was black? You've made jokes about black people in the past that all came off as just jokes, but this was a bit more unsettling. Never thought this before,but I think Cheapy actually doesn't like black people. This is extremely disappointing because, as a black man, I just can't listen to this anymore.



Douchebag of the Year award includes a race section, Cheapy is going for a sweep in all categories.

Just kidding, and so was Cheapy. He's not serious. Think about it, he's married to a minority, I don't think he cares about race... >_>
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#89 Razzuel

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 05:12 AM

Oh, that's the other thing I wanted to touch on. I think that Heather Chaplain character was way too extreme in what she said, but I think she has the right idea. For example, not all books, movies, and music are fun. Those mediums can induce a lot of other types of emotions. What I think she meant to say is that most game developers are not able to induce some of those complex and abstract emotions.

Some games do cause these emotions, but not for everyone since everyone reacts differently. Ico and Shadow of the Colossus come to mind as some of the best examples of offering these emotions. However, I recently played The Path, which was created by Tale of Tales. I really love The Path, but I did not have fun playing the game; there wasn't a point where I enjoyed the game. However, I appreciated and loved the game because it really induces unsettling feelings; some points even freaked me out. Also the game is really based on your interpretations and those interpretations touched on mature themes that other games never even come close to.

#90 DietCokeJunkey

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 05:27 AM

You're right. Ignore and move on. Thats the solution.

I think I see who the real audience for this show is.

Never mind, I was taken completely out of context.

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