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#31 Sir_Fragalot

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Posted 21 June 2009 - 07:42 AM

I did my first raid last night in wrath(naxx 25, only for one quarter), and I enjoyed it for a change. I realized that I hate raiding a lot. It's not the raid itself but the fact that I need to spend 5+ hours in front of my computer doing a raid (and ONLY the raid) and hope everything goes well. I have gotten to the point where I don't think I can do that anymore.

On a depressing note, I looted my tier 7 legplates from Naxx 25 last night and I bought the gloves from badge gear and if I didn't get the 10% crit chance to holy shock I only would of gained like 7 spell power and 1000 armor (one piece was mail but as a healer it didn't matter) so raiding doesn't interest me much and my gear is still good.
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Posted 22 June 2009 - 03:05 PM

I did my first raid last night in wrath(naxx 25, only for one quarter), and I enjoyed it for a change. I realized that I hate raiding a lot. It's not the raid itself but the fact that I need to spend 5+ hours in front of my computer doing a raid (and ONLY the raid) and hope everything goes well. I have gotten to the point where I don't think I can do that anymore.

On a depressing note, I looted my tier 7 legplates from Naxx 25 last night and I bought the gloves from badge gear and if I didn't get the 10% crit chance to holy shock I only would of gained like 7 spell power and 1000 armor (one piece was mail but as a healer it didn't matter) so raiding doesn't interest me much and my gear is still good.



My girlfriend doesn't like raiding for more than two hours either. But she hasn't given up on it. It's worth doing with your guildmates, friends or just people you like on your server.

I would say don't give up on raiding completely if 4-5 hours raids (or even broken into two sessions) are not for you. Have you tried other non-Naxx/Ulduar raids?

Obsidian Sanctum (Dragonsblight)

10-man: T7 Glove Token
25-man: T7.5 Glove Token

Vault of Archavon (Wintergrasp)

Archavon (easier boss)
10-man: T7 Gloves and Chest Token, Hateful Gladiator PvP gear (Season 5, 10-man quality)
25-man: T7.5 Gloves and Chest Token, Deadly Gladiator PvP gear (Season 5, 25-man quality)

Emalon (hard boss)
10-man: T8 Gloves and Legs Token, Season 5 Deadly Gladiator including non-set such as rings, cloaks, trinkets
25-man: T8.5 Gloves and Legs Token, Season 6 Furious Gladiator gear including non-set (superior 25-man quality)

Note that even though PvP gear may be raid quality, but in a raid the resilience stats will do you no good and tend to have lower stats than the PvE equivalent. They're good stop gaps until you get something more in line with your gear.

These are really really easy. Both of these raids can take between 20 min and 45 min, depending on your group's ability and if you wipe or not. I easily geared for both my specs (elemental and resto shaman) by pugging these two raids.

And if you're confident enough, try Eye of Eternity (Malygos). That doesn't take too long either, but it's tricky and the first time will probably be a learning experience. Loot is top notch.

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 12:07 AM

I recently started playing again after a few months break (i started last week i believe) and I am really enjoying playing on my dk...i just dinged lvl 78 like 10 or 20 mins ago

i do have a question that i am hoping someone can answer for me, where do they move the pvp gear vendors too? ...a lot of them are still where they were in org, but when i was there i didn't see the vendor that sells the 70 pvp weapon gear...i saw basically everything else...60 pvp weapons...70 pvp armor...80 pvp armor..

probably wont end up trying to get a 70 sword like i was intending too because i am close enough to 80 that i think i can hold off till then

just wanted to know for future reference

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 05:20 PM

The Casual stuff brought me back.

I was anti-WoW for a while, you can check my post history.

I picked it up again recently, friend let me use her account and now that it got hacked I'm going to pick it up and get my own account.

I leveled a DK to 80 because I did 6 of the original vanilla jobs to 60 before BC and wanted to try something new.

First - 10-man/Heroic 5-man. The deal is the same as doing UBRS or the like back in the old days, except the gear has been itemized to allow you access to the hard stuff. It's a great job by Blizzard because only being able to do end-game content if you were in a 40-man guild was very discouraging and didn't allow you to act without consequence. You had to walk on egg shells or you'd get "blacklisted" by raiding guilds. Now? Say whatever you want, because you can get epic gear in pugs.

Second - PVP. It's so dimensional now. There's arenas, big area/zones like Wintergrasp, gear rewards/mounts. It's crazy, the competition is so high. People say it killed world PVP, but world PVP sucked. The only people who enjoyed it were people who liked ganking lower level players or doing nothing with their time. It served no purpose and people never went anywhere with it. You'd start out at Crossroads or Southshore, you start winning, you try to sack Undercity or Orgrimmar/Iron Forge but people stop following you because of how long of a run it is or you get picked off or the sheer amount of opposing faction come in and destroy you, it falls apart.

Zoned/controlled PVP makes sure the fight is interesting enough for people to get into it.

The emblem/recruit a friend/heirloom system is fantastic. Right now I'm going to get 300% for leveling with the person who recruited me, on top of that, when I hit 80 with one toon, I can send heirloom gear to my alts. Basically gear that levels with you and remains as good as "good blues" your level. At level 80, a 2h axe has the max dmg and DPS of a level 80 heroic blue. But you never have to upgrade it. You can keep it on you from level 1-80. The same for the shoulders you get, but they also give you a 10% bonus experience buff.

Blizzard also increased the quested XP you get in pre-BC.

Also, go to Wow-pro and get Jame's alliance in-game guide. I just barely started using it, but I can tell already, this mod will get me past the boring 1-60 levels super fast.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 10:05 PM

I just got back from a 2 year absence since we moved and couldn't get decent internet, but now a better ISP came to us.

I play on Dark Iron with alliance & Ner'zhul with horde. I just decided to try a BE warlock, & Man, I forgot how brutal it is to level a cloth caster for the first 30 levels.

My main is a lvl 61 (just turned that) so it sucks since i havn't and wont be able to experience the 40M raids like Zul'Gurub, Onyxia, & MC, but from hearing what people have been saying about them it doesn't look like I'm missing out on that much. I just really want to try 1 of them once, mainly ZG.

And also, here is a link to a compilation of the patch notes, organized very nicely. (Does anybody have any clue on when patch 3.2 is going live?)

@ Warlocks. Since they are lowering the lvl 60 epic ground mount down to lvl 40 for 60g total for mount and training, and along with that the dreadsteed quest will be brought down to lvl 40. How will that work out, since its around a total of 450g to finish the quest? My guess is that blizzard will make it learnable at a trainer without having to do the quest, and it'll be free.

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 10:57 PM

Blizzard also increased the quested XP you get in pre-BC.


They did it for BC once Wrath came out also, its much faster now.

And if you're into the casual stuff, once 3.2 hits, the level requirement for mounts is way down also. I forget the exact numbers, but now I think you get mounts at 20, and epics at 40? And you can fly at 60?

It seems pretty nuts compared to what it was in 1.0, but basically, if you want to level, now is the time to do it.

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 11:00 PM

@ Warlocks. Since they are lowering the lvl 60 epic ground mount down to lvl 40 for 60g total for mount and training, and along with that the dreadsteed quest will be brought down to lvl 40. How will that work out, since its around a total of 450g to finish the quest? My guess is that blizzard will make it learnable at a trainer without having to do the quest, and it'll be free.


When you hit level 61 with a Warlock or Paladin you can buy the "skill" from your trainer for like five gold that gives you the dreadsteed/charger...no quest needed anymore. If you do the quest, you get an achievement, but who cares.

Why they made it 61 instead of 60 was probably to encourage people to do the quest but nobody does. It's easier to go to do Burning Crusade stuff for a level then go back and get it. With the upcoming mount changes, I can imagine they will give you the skill at either level 40 or 41, trainable.

#38 LordKefka06

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 04:56 AM

From what I read, you can learn the mount for cheap, but you need to do the quest to get re 150 riding skill, but the quest is about 450g

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 12:35 PM

From what I read, you can learn the mount for cheap, but you need to do the quest to get re 150 riding skill, but the quest is about 450g


You don't need to do the quest anymore. Last fall I leveled a Paladin and Warlock up with a buddy using the recruit a friend bonus and neither of us did the mount quests. We just bought the riding skill and at level 61 went back to our trainers and bought the "summon spell" that gave the mount.

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 04:07 PM

I played this game about 2 or 3 years ago.

But all these changes and what not I think I am downloading the trail and might get back into.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 01:24 PM

I played for 30 days or so when wrath came out just to try it out. The server I was on is dead or was at that time. The server was chogall and I was alliance. Did they or anyone know if they plan on changing it for the doomguard so you don't have to do the quest?
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 06:35 PM

Does anyone know about licensing for WoW?

My wife has been playing for some time - apparently there was something going on with Lich King that only one license was needed per household - everyone was apparently really happy about not needing to buy 3 copies for their roommates, etc.

I'm interested in starting to dabble in it, but Fuck the idea of buying additional copies of the game we've already paid for - if it came down to that, I just won't start playing. I don't mind the $15 a month for another account, I just don't want to pay the $30-50 per game/expansion.


So to cut from the babbling, my question is:

Since we're in the same household, are my wife and I both allowed to have accounts on her serial number, or would I need to buy additional serials of the game and expansions?

and if I DO end up just giving up and buying it, what's the "cheapest way" to go? it looks like, since BattleChest only has 1 free month, it's to buy them separately and take advantage of a free month each with WoW and burning - is this right?

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 11:03 PM

You can't have 2 accounts on the same serial number IIRC. Your best option is to purchase a Battlechest which will give you a free month. Before you activate the serial number, have your wife use the recruit a friend feature to send you an invite. Sign up for an account with that invite, then right before the trial is over, use the serial numbers to turn the account into a full account. You will get a free month from the battle chest, and after you pay for your first month, your wife will get a free month thanks to the Recruit a friend feature. If you stay for 3 months, your wife will also get an exclusive in game mount to use for one of her characters. Also, you and your wife will get triple XP if you level up characters together. This triple xp lasts until 60. Be advised that the trial account only allows you to level up to 20, so if you hit that before the trial is up (you should really easily) just activate the account early.

Sorry for wall of text, but hope that helps!

#44 Rocko

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 03:57 AM

Finally got my DK to 80. :D

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Posted 16 July 2009 - 09:25 AM

Did they or anyone know if they plan on changing it for the doomguard so you don't have to do the quest?


They haven't changed it as of yet and i doubt they will. The quests aren't really too bad and I believe only the last quest in the chain requires you to be a higher level or have a player helping you.

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 04:21 AM

Just started out a Tauren Shaman and a Draenei Paladin. Don't really know what the hell I'm doing, but I'm trying.

Cause I'm sick of seeing ghosts, and I know how it's all gonna end

There's no triumph waiting, there's no sunset to ride off in

We all want to be great men, there's nothing romantic about it

I just want to know that I did all I could with what I was given

I just want to sell out my funeral.

I just want to be enough for everyone.


#47 Demolition Man

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 01:26 AM

Finally got my DK to 80. :D


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I've been holding off until 3.2 is running before doing much with my DK. Especially with all the changes I feel its better off that I wait a bit since things will be a bit easier.

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#48 Rocko

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Posted 19 July 2009 - 09:55 PM

It's my first 80- started a mage with a friend that's been playing for a while with Refer-A-Friend, but for the RAF bonus we had to play together, so when I could make a DK I did so I could play whenever I wanted to with that character. By the time I could level alone with my mage, I was already really into the DK. Soloing with the mage isn't as fun as the DK since my DK can tear through pretty much anything with ease, as far as leveling goes.

#49 LordKefka06

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 02:20 AM

Who here thinks Palys & DKs are way OPed?

I think its safe to say that either one of them could face-roll and still win. :)

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 04:54 AM

Who here thinks Palys & DKs are way OPed?

I think its safe to say that either one of them could face-roll and still win. :)


I play paladin. I can solo waves of mobs forever without stopping with holy gear in prot spec.

I will agree pally's are overpowered. Also DK's are too.
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Posted 21 July 2009 - 01:21 PM

Wow, I just discovered how easy you can get a group of 80s to run you through onyxia is, along with guild runs.

My guild never really did raiding knights for all the lvl 60 instances, but I got it setup where every Friday we do a raid. Last Friday we dis onyxia and now this Friday we plan on doing hakkar, then BWL & MC.

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#52 LordKefka06

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 07:19 PM

What would you guys say is the most money making professions end-game. I would say Enchanting/Mining/Fishing? Am I correct?

I personally was going LW/Skinning for my hunter but figured i might as well just drop LW, keep skinning, & get enchanting. Since I dont want to be wasting all that leather for gear when i would just be replacing it with instance armor, or just pay a LW to make it for me with the mats i already have with skinning.

#53 Psionic Jinx

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 08:11 PM

What would you guys say is the most money making professions end-game. I would say Enchanting/Mining/Fishing? Am I correct?

I personally was going LW/Skinning for my hunter but figured i might as well just drop LW, keep skinning, & get enchanting. Since I dont want to be wasting all that leather for gear when i would just be replacing it with instance armor, or just pay a LW to make it for me with the mats i already have with skinning.


When I was playing, I was enchanting. I'd just link my enchants and take tips. It adds up very quickly. Mining also does very well for gathering. You can auction house stacks of ore for a bit (depending on your server economy).

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 08:51 PM

What would you guys say is the most money making professions end-game. I would say Enchanting/Mining/Fishing? Am I correct?

I personally was going LW/Skinning for my hunter but figured i might as well just drop LW, keep skinning, & get enchanting. Since I dont want to be wasting all that leather for gear when i would just be replacing it with instance armor, or just pay a LW to make it for me with the mats i already have with skinning.


Just a heads up Enchanting is going to be hell to level up. Unless you don't mind instance grinding low level ones for greens/blues Enchanting is going to be hell because the mats are not cheap on the AH. I have a 64 warlock who just broke 315 enchanting last night and it is not fun. Mining is a hell of a lot easier.
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#55 LordKefka06

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 06:38 AM

How is enchanting for gold cost to lvl up, buy rods, & recipes?

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 08:36 AM

How is enchanting for gold cost to lvl up, buy rods, & recipes?


I bought my way up to 375. I think it took about 6k buying up mats from the auction house (pre-wrath). If you just want to level it, you don't really need to buy many recipes. The drop rate is also a lot better for them, so you can grind some out if you want. If you have a blacksmith, you can make your own rods also.

The mats become a lot easier to get if you level enchanting when you start questing in Northrend. I just disenchanted all the quest items I got and leveled it that way. The last few points, I did free enchanting for people and got my last points like that.

#57 rumarudrathas

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 03:43 PM

Gawd, my Fiance is going to chop off my bits if she ever saw me fire up WoW again...

But when I was fairly active, I was a casual level 74 Tauren Druid on Greymane by the name of Jihnaea, balanced spec with a bit of Resto power for 2-mans and the occasional dungeon dive.

#58 LordKefka06

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 06:24 PM

Wife aggro... Lol.

And I have all the rods & mats already to get me to 425. So i should be set. I also have 37 lvl 60 epics waiting to be DE. The bad parr is I'm only 125, but I should be too 300 by tomorrow.

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 08:04 PM

If you're looking to make money doing a profession, I would take herbalism or jewelcrafting. There's always a need for mana potions and flasks, especially with high end dungeons and raids. Gems for gear is always in demand with people constantly getting new gear. Jewelcrafting is also beneficial if you're planning to make it to end game raiding, as the jewelcrafting specific gems are very powerful.

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