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#3241 StickyWaffles

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 09:19 PM

Thanks StickyWaffles for the feedback. And thanks for posting your rig components. I'm debating between the 4570 and the 4670k, but does microcenter bundle the 4570 too? Otherwise, the 4670k comes out cheaper I think.

Now I have to look for a short length video card to fit my case.

They do not , although I heard that some people have been able to order both processors with a motherboard online for store pickup, and then just buy the 4570 with the discounted motherboard, but YMMV.

 

Just to let others know that are new, the 4570 is $160, and the 4670k is $200 (but has that $40 off a motherboard promo, making it essentially the same price). If you can find a separate motherboard deal on newegg.com, you'll come out way ahead by just buying the cheapest i5, but the motherboard I got for $85 is currently $115, and there doesn't seem to be any great deals on basic Z87 ATX motherboards with the 1150 socket right now:

 

http://www.newegg.co...ICE&PageSize=20

 

So if you can't find another deal on a motherboard (they do seem to go on sale the least of any component), then the 4670k with $40 off a motherboard is great. If you're not planning on overclocking, though, there definitely isn't $40 worth of difference between the two, so you'd probably be better off waiting for a separate motherboard deal to pair with the $160 i5 4570.

 

EDIT- Scratch that, microcenter has the ASRock Pro 3 for $50 after rebate when bundled with the 4670k. That gets my recommendation 100%. $250 + tax for that setup is the best deal I've seen.

 

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 09:24 PM

What do you think of this board?

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813130695

MC has this board and the 4670k for $255, which would put it at the same price as your setup.

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 10:25 PM

Need some ideas on cooling my machine. Basically 99.9% of games I have no problem with heating, except for TERA online. TERA just makes my processor run hotter than I would like due to poor coding decisions.

 

Anyway way I am running my PC now is with 2 case fans and the stock intel heatsink. I am not looking to do anything crazy here, just be able to play TERA without my CPU going crazy.

 

My budget would be about $30-40 for the whole ordeal. Maybe more if there is a good solution that doesn't require me to rip my whole case apart or unscrew the mobo. I am looking for a solution like easy heatsink replacement or something easy I can do in like 20-30 mins.


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#3244 Ryukahn

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:19 PM

The reason i have the 850W power supply is because several of the reviews on newegg mention needing a high power supply for the case.

 

As for why I have high specs on the other stuff, I was just trying to ensure the parts made for a definitive upgrade over what I am using now.  My current PC is a store bought one that I think I got at the end of 2010, but I am not positive, so I guess it may not take much to ensure a definitive upgrade.

 

Here are the specs for it that I could find

 

Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz

8GB Memory

ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series

4843 MB Total available graphics memory

1.35T HD

 

Also, I am pretty sure that I checked to make sure that everything was compatible with the case.  Is there any part that I may have overlooked that isn't?



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:20 PM

The 212+ is good.

First, how can you claim prior non-existance to devalue a movement? I am sure the civil rights movement would love that. "Well, there was no movement to free the slaves before, so why is it relavent now?"

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:21 PM


The 212+ is good.

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:37 PM

The reason i have the 850W power supply is because several of the reviews on newegg mention needing a high power supply for the case.

 

As for why I have high specs on the other stuff, I was just trying to ensure the parts made for a definitive upgrade over what I am using now.  My current PC is a store bought one that I think I got at the end of 2010, but I am not positive, so I guess it may not take much to ensure a definitive upgrade.

 

Here are the specs for it that I could find

 

Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz

8GB Memory

ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series

4843 MB Total available graphics memory

1.35T HD

 

Also, I am pretty sure that I checked to make sure that everything was compatible with the case.  Is there any part that I may have overlooked that isn't?

Nothing will ever be incompatible with a case. It's a piece a metal with a front USB panel. You have an ATX case so size is not an issue. This is more than 2x the power you will need with those parts.



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:45 PM

Nothing will ever be incompatible with a case. It's a piece a metal with a front USB panel. You have an ATX case so size is not an issue. This is more than 2x the power you will need with those parts.

 

I worded it wrong, as I meant size wise not actual incompatibility.  That power supply would end up saving me around $20 after rebates and promo codes, though I do hate dealing with Newegg rebates so thats a bonus.



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 11:53 PM

I worded it wrong, as I meant size wise not actual incompatibility.  That power supply would end up saving me around $20 after rebates and promo codes, though I do hate dealing with Newegg rebates so thats a bonus.

Ah sorry then. But it is compatible. Are you set on getting the 660? The 7950 would be a much better option at that price.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 12:05 AM

Ah sorry then. But it is compatible. Are you set on getting the 660? The 7950 would be a much better option at that price.

 

Someone earlier had mentioned bumping up to a 760, so I was looking at this one.  It is in a combo deal with the motherboard I am looking at, though it isn't a very large discount.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 12:20 AM

Someone earlier had mentioned bumping up to a 760, so I was looking at this one.  It is in a combo deal with the motherboard I am looking at, though it isn't a very large discount.

Are you planning on overclocking? 7950s see more of a performance increase from overclocking than 760s and are cheaper aswell. Stock, they are on the same footing.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 12:21 AM

I have no plans to overclock



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 12:45 AM

I have no plans to overclock

Then you should go with the 7950 because it's cheaper, unless you reallllllyyyyyyyyyyyy want the new batman game.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 01:00 PM

After doing some research, it doesn't look like I'll be able to fit a good gaming video card in my case.  I have an Apevia XMaster like this one:

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811144231

 

My current card is an MSI 8800GT, which is 9" L x ~4" H.  I don't think I can fit anything larger than that.  So now, I need to find a case big enough to fit the card I want, but small enough to fit in a TV stand.  I'm almost at the point of just buying an X51, but I'd rather save some money and build it myself if I can.

 

Edit: looks like the biggest I can fit would be a 7850.


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#3255 StickyWaffles

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 08:18 PM

After doing some research, it doesn't look like I'll be able to fit a good gaming video card in my case.  I have an Apevia XMaster like this one:

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811144231

 

My current card is an MSI 8800GT, which is 9" L x ~4" H.  I don't think I can fit anything larger than that.  So now, I need to find a case big enough to fit the card I want, but small enough to fit in a TV stand.  I'm almost at the point of just buying an X51, but I'd rather save some money and build it myself if I can.

 

Edit: looks like the biggest I can fit would be a 7850.

That mother board you linked to earlier would get the job done just fine if you still end up going that route. An option besides X51 is ibuypower's Revolt system. It's much more powerful than a similarly priced X51 on dell's site, and has other perks like free games. You would have to pay shipping, but no tax outside of California, which more than makes up for it.

 

http://www.ibuypower..._Revolt_Special

 

The sale going on right now brings prices down so that it's cheaper than Alienware (although I'm sure there are X51 deals out there), $1,000 for a very nice setup. Of course, you're still paying a premium for the small size factor and nice case.

   


 



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 08:51 PM

Thanks for the link!  I also ended up looking at the Cyberpower Lan III Xtreme.  It looks like both will do the job and will be a better value to the X51, though that Revolt case does look pretty nice.  I'm going to have to do some research tonight and see what the costs will be.  


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#3257 StickyWaffles

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Posted 03 September 2013 - 08:57 PM

Are you planning on overclocking? 7950s see more of a performance increase from overclocking than 760s and are cheaper aswell. Stock, they are on the same footing.

The 760 generally gets higher performance than the 7950, and usually isn't much more expensive, but there are some good sales that make me agree with you, that the 7950 is a better value. This msi card is $180 after rebate:

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127737

 

Ultimately everything comes down to preference, but getting things like a 850W makes your build a little imbalanced, so money doesn't need to go there, when it provides you no benefit. Same reason why I, and many others recommend a core i5 instead of a core i7. Looking at your computer from 2010, a core i5 Haswell, with a 7950 for $180 (or 760 for $250), with a $30 500-600W power supply, that case (or a cheaper one for $30-50), and a SSD from this article (http://www.tomshardw...ark,3269-2.html) is a giant upgrade, but everything comes down to preference, so get what makes you happy!



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 10:08 PM

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 05:52 AM

edit:  So I was all ready to buy this and then I found out Coolermaster has just released the Elite 130, a mini ITX case capable of fitting a full size PSU and dual slot, full size graphics cards all in a 9.4 x 8.1 x 14.9 package.  I'm back to researching components so just ignore below.  I'm never going to get a new PC :lol:

 

 

So here's what I have ready to order from ibuypower.  I realized the bitfenix lan box is too tall for my ent. center but the revolt will work great.  Anything I should change out before I hit the submit button?  Total is $1108 + $75 shipping.

 

 

1 x Case ( iBUYPOWER Revolt Mini Tower Gaming Case )
1 x Case Lighting ( Revolt Advanced Lighting )
1 x Processor ( Intel® Core™ i5-4570 Processor (4x 3.20GHz/6MB L3 Cache) )
0 x iBUYPOWER PowerDrive ( None )
1 x Processor Cooling ( Corsair Hydro Series H55 Liquid CPU Cooling System - Standard 120mm Fan )
1 x Memory ( 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand )
1 x Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 - 2GB - Single Card )
1 x Free Stuff ( [FREE Game Download] - GRID2 - FREE with Intel 4th Gen Processor )
1 x Free Stuff ( [FREE Game Coupon] - Batman: Arkham Origins - Free w/ purchase of GeForce GTX 660 or above )
1 x Motherboard ( ASRock B85M-ITX )
1 x Power Supply ( 500 Watt - FSP 1U 80 Plus Gold Certificated Power Supply )
1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 256 GB ADATA SX900 SSD - Single Drive )
0 x Data Hard Drive ( None )
1 x Optical Drive ( Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Slot Load Drive )
1 x Internal Wireless Network Adapter ( FREE Internal Bluetooth and Wireless Adaptor [Revolt-B85] )
1 x Operating System ( Windows 8 + Office 2010 Trial [Free 60-Day !!!] - 64-bit )
0 x Monitor ( None )
0 x 2nd Monitor ( None )
0 x Speaker System ( None )
0 x Video Camera ( None )
1 x Warranty ( 3 Year Standard Warranty Service )
1 x Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

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#3260 Mako1215

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 03:07 PM

That seems really giving expensive to me for not that much stuff.

First, how can you claim prior non-existance to devalue a movement? I am sure the civil rights movement would love that. "Well, there was no movement to free the slaves before, so why is it relavent now?"

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:02 PM

Never posted in the PC forum before but I need some PC gamer opinions. I am building or buying a PC in the near future, I haven't owned a gaming PC in about 7 years. Basically my GPU went bad back then and the Xbox 360 came out so I went the console route. In the last Steam Summer Sale I went crazy and now I have games I missed out on and need to play them. Plus I got actual broadband in my home so theres that.

 

My question comes down to timing, more than anything. We all know the new gaming consoles are coming out in the next few months or so. So, is it better to wait until after the consoles launch to start looking at PC hardware/builds or is now a good of time as any. Obviously if I were building a PC a couple years ago I would of just dived in for the best best performance/price right now.

 

When I do commit, my budget won't really be a concern but I am not one to buy the best just because its new. I always look for the sweet spot of price and performance when it comes to components. So I won't be getting into massive liquid cooling set-ups and dual or quad SLI or crossfire off the bat. But I will be very mindful of longevity and upgradability in the future.

 

What do you guys think? Considering I can't be the only one out there with the same question. Maybe it been talked about to death but the "Next generation" is just around the corner and I can't decide.



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:10 PM

That seems really giving expensive to me for not that much stuff.

It is, but in terms of prebuilt SFF PCs, it's a better option than the X51.

 

And to Shifty, the new AMD graphics cards are all but confirmed to be releasing in mid October, so I would wait another month to see what kind of prices those launch at. They should be much better for gaming at high resolutions (1440p or higher), and probably more future proof, since they have more VRAM than nVidia's 2GB $200-400 cards.

 

I can't imagine the launch of the new consoles affecting PC components in any way, except for maybe VRAM on graphics cards, since the new consoles apparently have 4 or 5 GBs.



#3263 Mako1215

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 12:04 AM

Never posted in the PC forum before but I need some PC gamer opinions. I am building or buying a PC in the near future, I haven't owned a gaming PC in about 7 years. Basically my GPU went bad back then and the Xbox 360 came out so I went the console route. In the last Steam Summer Sale I went crazy and now I have games I missed out on and need to play them. Plus I got actual broadband in my home so theres that.

 

My question comes down to timing, more than anything. We all know the new gaming consoles are coming out in the next few months or so. So, is it better to wait until after the consoles launch to start looking at PC hardware/builds or is now a good of time as any. Obviously if I were building a PC a couple years ago I would of just dived in for the best best performance/price right now.

 

When I do commit, my budget won't really be a concern but I am not one to buy the best just because its new. I always look for the sweet spot of price and performance when it comes to components. So I won't be getting into massive liquid cooling set-ups and dual or quad SLI or crossfire off the bat. But I will be very mindful of longevity and upgradability in the future.

 

What do you guys think? Considering I can't be the only one out there with the same question. Maybe it been talked about to death but the "Next generation" is just around the corner and I can't decide.

 

 

If you like consoles then wait. I am about to sell my current gaming rig, and I will be waiting a good year before I build another one. 

 

I like consoles better just because people I know play more on them, and I have a better MP experience for games. MP seems to be a huge selling point come this next gen, and that's what I enjoy most.

 

With a budget of $1000 you can build a good rig, but $1000 now, and $1000 a year from now could be very different.



First, how can you claim prior non-existance to devalue a movement? I am sure the civil rights movement would love that. "Well, there was no movement to free the slaves before, so why is it relavent now?"

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 12:10 AM

Yeah it is still expensive. I wanted an HTPC style case to fit my media center, see below. What I'm going to do instead is get a shallow mid tower case and remove the shelf and put the Ps3 in a vertical position next to it. These are the cases I'm looking at now since they are both around 16" deep and less than 20" high. The rose will has better reviews but I like the plain look of the antec.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811147185

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 12:21 AM

If your going for stealth get the Antec black one.



First, how can you claim prior non-existance to devalue a movement? I am sure the civil rights movement would love that. "Well, there was no movement to free the slaves before, so why is it relavent now?"

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 01:04 AM

If you like consoles then wait. I am about to sell my current gaming rig, and I will be waiting a good year before I build another one. 

 

I like consoles better just because people I know play more on them, and I have a better MP experience for games. MP seems to be a huge selling point come this next gen, and that's what I enjoy most.

 

With a budget of $1000 you can build a good rig, but $1000 now, and $1000 a year from now could be very different.

 

Well, I will get either the Xbox One or PS4 on launch. Plus I still want to play some PS3 exlcusives like The Last of Us, so I need to pick up a PS3 sometime. I am not abandoning consoles, just not sure If I should hold off a bit more for a PC. Thanks for the reply.



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Posted 08 September 2013 - 01:28 AM

Well, I will get either the Xbox One or PS4 on launch. Plus I still want to play some PS3 exlcusives like The Last of Us, so I need to pick up a PS3 sometime. I am not abandoning consoles, just not sure If I should hold off a bit more for a PC. Thanks for the reply.

 

I also skipped getting a PS3 but just like you, there are several exclusives I want to play (including The Last of Us). I will be getting a PS4 at some point and plan on holding off on the PS3 titles because of the future implementation of Gaikai and backwards compatibility. I am under the assumption that the BC will only work on digital downloads, so by the time I get a PS4 most of the titles I want will be cheap(ish) digital copies.


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 02:38 AM

I also skipped getting a PS3 but just like you, there are several exclusives I want to play (including The Last of Us). I will be getting a PS4 at some point and plan on holding off on the PS3 titles because of the future implementation of Gaikai and backwards compatibility. I am under the assumption that the BC will only work on digital downloads, so by the time I get a PS4 most of the titles I want will be cheap(ish) digital copies.

 Wait, Gaikai is coming to the PS4?



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Posted 08 September 2013 - 02:58 AM

Wait, Gaikai is coming to the PS4?

Yes sir

First, how can you claim prior non-existance to devalue a movement? I am sure the civil rights movement would love that. "Well, there was no movement to free the slaves before, so why is it relavent now?"

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 06:01 AM

 Wait, Gaikai is coming to the PS4?

 

Oh yeah. It's one of the most enticing options of the PS4, even though it won't be live until some time in 2014. There haven't been a whole ton of information on the service yet other than it will allow some sort of backwards compatibility and will start sometime next year. I'm very curious to whether there will be a distinction between digital and disc media....This probably doesn't belong in this thread but still very cool.


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