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#1891 cgarb84

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 06:04 PM

Damnit.... yesterday morning I ordered my new pc components (from Newegg and Amazon) and now today I get an email from Newegg.....they're having a huge Summer sale!!! ARGH what terrible timing on my part! If I just would've waiting 1 more lousy day I could've saved and extra $50 or so. Newegg doesn't have any price change policy like Amazon do they? If this was Amazon I could email them and get the new cheaper prices without any trouble at all.
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#1892 Corvix

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 06:25 PM

@crystalklear64

I changed alot of my initial list before I read your reply and alot of it coincides with your reply.

1. Ya I think I will settle for the 560ti and when battlefield 3 hits, I'll get another one and sli.

2. i scrapped the ssd and got a 450g raptor.

3. what do you think of the case? I'm not going to lie the thing that attracted me was aesthetics and cable management.what are the differences between mid towers and full towers besides size? What would make someone choose one over the other?Dont think those negatives you posted affect me

4. Ya i plan on sli.

5. Our mobos only use dual

6. ill probably add a hsf down the road

7. I have a monitor picked out but I dont know :/

I'll post my set up after work/school so I can see what you guys think. I was forced to order the case and my ram last night before deal ended.didn't want to decide I wanted them and lose out on the sale.thanks again

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 07:24 PM

3. what do you think of the case? I'm not going to lie the thing that attracted me was aesthetics and cable management.what are the differences between mid towers and full towers besides size? What would make someone choose one over the other?Dont think those negatives you posted affect me

4. Ya i plan on sli.


If you plan to SLI, then do it in a full size case. Mid-size would become too cramped. Also most mid-size cases to do not accept the larger graphic cards.

cgarb84: Try emailing them, or seeing if you can cancel your order before it is shipper out. Newegg is pretty well known for their customer service.

#1894 crystalklear64

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:08 PM

i think you could get away with sli 570s in a mid sized case. they are actually quite small, especially compared to my 4870 and i could probably have squeezed one of those in my cheapo mid-sized case. if the 560 ti is the same-ish size of a 570 i'd say you could do a mid sized tower. And in name alone, mid vs full, size is the only difference. cooling might become an issue if you picked like a solid steel case with no fans or something but even then since you said you're not overclocking it'd still probably be good.

what you'd have to look out for though is your eventual HSF's height since you'd have a better chance of that not fitting than your video cards.

ok heres the phantom will all my shit in it. notice the retarded amount of empty space? good airflow or not, no way did i need a full size. my video card is pretty much the same size as the mobo with only the wires from the power connectors sticking out. if the 560 is the same size i'd say mid size would be no problem.
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and heres a size comparison to a smaller mid size case i have. couldn't fit it where my old case went so now i get to slam my knees on it every time i get up >.>
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#1895 cgarb84

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:20 PM

cgarb84: Try emailing them, or seeing if you can cancel your order before it is shipper out. Newegg is pretty well known for their customer service.


The order shipped yesterday so that's not an option. I do however think I will shoot them an email and see what happens, there's no harm in trying.

Also about the mid vs. full tower debate, I would personally recommend a full tower if you are going to have multiple GPU's. I just can't imagine a small case with 2 GPU's running and a whole wad of cables and various other components in there could keep a system adequately cooled. That's just my recommendation though, do what you think is best.
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#1896 Corvix

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 02:27 AM

Phew just go back from school. Heres my list. Please, please feel free to suggest something. I know ahead of time I'm going to be flamed for the P67 over the Z68 I don't know whats the difference :P And the P67 has the advantage over being available longer while Z68 is new technology? I guess? But yea please feel free to help me out.

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK Black Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case 139.99 - 20 (promo) = 119.99

Western Digital VelociRaptor WD4500HLHX 450GB 10000 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive 199.99

ASUS VH236H Black 23" Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ Speakers 199.99 - 30 (promo) = 169.99 - 20 (rebate) = 149.99

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active ... 159.99 - 25 (promo) = 134.99 - 15 (rebate) = 119.99

Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX 84.99 - 10 (promo) = 74.99 - 25 (rebate) = 49.99

ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard 159.99

EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1563-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ...

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

489.98 - 20 (promo) - 15 (combo) = 454.98 - 25 (rebate) = 429.98

Total = 1,344.92 + 23.05 shipping = 1,367.97 - 85 (rebates) = 1,282.97

I know I'm missing a optical drive. Still havn't decided between blu ray or just reg dvd. And as far as peripherals mouse,keyboard and headset I'm looking at like another 150-200 for gaming peripherals. Oh and I get windows 7 for 30 since I'm a student. Guess paying a shit ton of tuition pays off huh? :} And I think thats it. Again please let me know if you think theres something better remember Im not restricted by a budget (well I kind of am but I can save alittle more to reach said budget)

Thanks guys in advance ! Much love no homo!

P.S sorry for the weird links? dont know why they came in those funky colors

#1897 Corvix

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 03:09 AM

Last post before I hit the hay. I will check the thread before work tomorrow to see some goodies. Im beat =/ 8-5 work 6-9 class, tomorrow 8-5 work. Hopefully you guys show me some love. I'd like to have the trigger pulled by friday so they can ship the stuff to me.

Uhh some reconsiderations : 2 midtower cases went on sale Antec 300 and Thermaltake V9 don't know much about those but they are cheap (are they any good?, keep in my my phantom is on its way but i can always return it), seems to be a nice combo on g skill 8gb and z68 mobo dont know which one exactly(my kingston ram is also on the way but I can return it)

might get that logitech g9x mouse they have rather then the razer i was looking at, the prices between blu ray players and dvd is stupid deff getting a dvd player :P i have a blu ray in the living room anyway, for the price of my gtx 560ti i could get 2 460s right off the bat cause of the price reductions so thats something to think about, thats about all that caught my eye really.

thanks again guys, take it easy and be safe!

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 03:51 AM


Uhh some reconsiderations : 2 midtower cases went on sale Antec 300 and Thermaltake V9 don't know much about those but they are cheap (are they any good?, keep in my my phantom is on its way but i can always return it), seems to be a nice combo on g skill 8gb and z68 mobo dont know which one exactly(my kingston ram is also on the way but I can return it)


I have the Antec 300 and it's a good case, but it might not be for everyone. It is tight on space especially if you are going to do SLI/Crossfire and max out the HDD bays. My second complaint would be that it is not optimized for cable management. You can make it tidy, but not nearly as much as pricier cases.

I noticed you were going for a 2500K. If you are overclocking it, you can do decent amount on the stock cooler, but I really suggest you get a decent aftermarket one.
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#1899 j-cart

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 05:26 AM

Tom's Hardware just released this in time for you Corvix.

http://www.tomshardw...-a-pc,2969.html

#1900 elaine_of_shalott

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 02:05 PM

I don't know if this is the best place for this since I'm not looking to build from scratch. I want to start from a prebuilt but am willing to do a few upgrades. I am looking for a computer for general use and light gaming. Sims 3 is probably the most intensive game I will play on it.

What I am looking at right now is this:

From Dell:

Inspiron 620 MT Inspiron 620 Minitower w/ Black Bezel
Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
Processors Intel® Core™ i3-2120 processor(3MB Cache, 3.30GHz)
Memory 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 2 DIMMs
Keyboard Dell USB Entry Keyboard
Video Card Intel® HD Graphics
Hard Drive 500GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
Floppy Drive Integrated 8 in 1 Media Card Reader
Optical Drives 16X DVD+/-RW Drive
Sound Integrated 5.1
$499.99

Monitor Dell 21.5-inch Wide ST2220MB Flat Panel Monitor
$139.99

Speaker Dell AX510PA Entry Flat Panel Stereo Sound Bar with Power Adapter
$34.99

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VIDEO CARD SAPPHIRE 100287VGAL Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 512MB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card $69.99+ 5.99 shipping

I also have a fairly new 500gb hard drive from my current computer that I will probably drop it to increase my hard drive space.


This totals about $750.95 before tax. I'd like to keep my total including tax under $800 but I could go as high as $900 if I'd get a good performance boost. Does anyone see any good changes to make to this setup.

#1901 crystalklear64

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 02:34 PM

I don't know if this is the best place for this since I like throwing money away.

Try Tom's Hardware. Their forums seem to hate money too.

Just build your own from scratch. It is literally easy as screwing in your motherboard and plugging labeled things into it then giving the things you plugged in power.

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#1902 elaine_of_shalott

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 03:40 PM

Try Tom's Hardware. Their forums seem to hate money too.

Just build your own from scratch. It is literally easy as screwing in your motherboard and plugging labeled things into it then giving the things you plugged in power.


I did try it once. It's all so easy until it doesn't work. When it didn't work and I didn't have anyone local who could help me resolve the issues I was out a substantial amount of time and money. Not to mention that the last thing I need in my life is tear-your hair out levels of stress.

I will take the suggestion on a forum where I might find people willing to give advice on the question I asked though.

EDIT: I would consider starting with a barebone setup if it would save me a considerable amount of money or give me a large boost in performance.

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#1903 cgarb84

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 04:09 PM

I need some GPU advice. Now that I am building a new system I know my GPU is going to be the bottleneck for me (GTX 460 1 GB). I see on Newegg's Summer Sale they have the GTX 460 SE on sale, AR it's $100. Can I SLI that card with my current 460 (not SE)? And if I can should I think about doing that or should I just wait a little bit and buy a better single card, either Nvidia or Radeon? I have a 1000W PSU so that shouldn't be a problem.

Also I did chat with someone from Newegg about my recent order. They said they don't normally give credit back on items that have changed in price but they did give me 15% off on my memory I ordered (they have a deal 15% off all memory with a promo code right now) so that was nice of them. I still wish I would've waited 1 WHOLE DAY to place my order but what's a white boy to do. :lol:
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Posted 22 June 2011 - 04:47 PM

I don't know if this is the best place for this since I'm not looking to build from scratch. I want to start from a prebuilt but am willing to do a few upgrades. I am looking for a computer for general use and light gaming. Sims 3 is probably the most intensive game I will play on it.

What I am looking at right now is this:

From Dell:

Inspiron 620 MT Inspiron 620 Minitower w/ Black Bezel
Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
Processors Intel® Core™ i3-2120 processor(3MB Cache, 3.30GHz)
Memory 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 2 DIMMs
Keyboard Dell USB Entry Keyboard
Video Card Intel® HD Graphics
Hard Drive 500GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
Floppy Drive Integrated 8 in 1 Media Card Reader
Optical Drives 16X DVD+/-RW Drive
Sound Integrated 5.1
$499.99

Monitor Dell 21.5-inch Wide ST2220MB Flat Panel Monitor
$139.99

Speaker Dell AX510PA Entry Flat Panel Stereo Sound Bar with Power Adapter
$34.99

Upgrade
From Newegg:
VIDEO CARD SAPPHIRE 100287VGAL Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 512MB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card $69.99+ 5.99 shipping

I also have a fairly new 500gb hard drive from my current computer that I will probably drop it to increase my hard drive space.


This totals about $750.95 before tax. I'd like to keep my total including tax under $800 but I could go as high as $900 if I'd get a good performance boost. Does anyone see any good changes to make to this setup.

If you buy a Dell and upgrade the video card, there's a good chance you'll need to upgrade the PSU as well. Dell is notorious for putting PSUs that meet the bare minimum for the computers they sell, saving them money.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 05:03 PM

I need some GPU advice. Now that I am building a new system I know my GPU is going to be the bottleneck for me (GTX 460 1 GB). I see on Newegg's Summer Sale they have the GTX 460 SE on sale, AR it's $100. Can I SLI that card with my current 460 (not SE)? And if I can should I think about doing that or should I just wait a little bit and buy a better single card, either Nvidia or Radeon? I have a 1000W PSU so that shouldn't be a problem.

Also I did chat with someone from Newegg about my recent order. They said they don't normally give credit back on items that have changed in price but they did give me 15% off on my memory I ordered (they have a deal 15% off all memory with a promo code right now) so that was nice of them. I still wish I would've waited 1 WHOLE DAY to place my order but what's a white boy to do. :lol:

You can't SLI those cards, the SE is a lesser card then the regular 460. What resolution do you play at?

#1906 cgarb84

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 05:46 PM

Ok thanks for the reply. I noticed when I did some digging that the SE version was a little different "under the hood" so I figured that wouldn't work. I play my games on 1920X1200 btw. So what should I do, upgrade to a high-end single card or buy a 2nd 460 and SLI them?

If you buy a Dell and upgrade the video card, there's a good chance you'll need to upgrade the PSU as well. Dell is notorious for putting PSUs that meet the bare minimum for the computers they sell, saving them money.


Yeah from my previous experiences with Dell I can vouch for their standard PSU's being shit. You won't be able to upgrade to much of anything with them. The cases are usually so that the PSU's fit very tightly in them, upgrading your PSU means that you may need to get a new one that's the same size (actual size) as the old one. If that's the case your options are pretty limited. Probably a 400W if you are lucky. But who knows maybe you can luck out and find something that works for you, good luck.
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#1907 TwelveVolt

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 08:06 PM

Ok thanks for the reply. I noticed when I did some digging that the SE version was a little different "under the hood" so I figured that wouldn't work. I play my games on 1920X1200 btw. So what should I do, upgrade to a high-end single card or buy a 2nd 460 and SLI them?

If you're going for bang-for-your-buck, 2 460's would be the way to go. I usually go single-card, but if you've already got one 460, 2 will come close to a single (high-end) card performance for the cost of a minor upgrade.

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#1908 sinned47

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 08:25 PM

so i finished building my computer and i wanted to install windows 7. im stonewalled by this error after i click install now: a cd/dvd drive device driver was not found. please install it blah blah blah
i tried to research and google this all last night but no luck. right now i disconnect every drive except my hdd (where windows is going to be install on). i used both the cd in the dvd drive and an usb drive with the iso on it. both no luck.
a lot of solutions on google are for prebuilt computers. meaning they already had an OS so i can only do so much with that information. can anyone help me?

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 08:33 PM

Redownload the ISO, then burn it to a DVD using 4x speed with ImgBurn.


If still no luck, you should grab the latest firmware for your drive and throw it on a thumb drive for when it asks you to load it when that error appears. If STILL no go, do you not have other DVD drives you can temporarily MacGuyver to your motherboard in some ass backwards way just for installing Windows 7?

#1910 elaine_of_shalott

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 08:55 PM

If you buy a Dell and upgrade the video card, there's a good chance you'll need to upgrade the PSU as well. Dell is notorious for putting PSUs that meet the bare minimum for the computers they sell, saving them money.


I did browse around. There seemed to be plenty of people running 5670s in Insperion 580MTs which was the model that seems to be the 620MT's immediate predecessor. Most of the sites threads I saw seemed to think that in most builds this card was ok with a 300w power supply. Do you have a specific reason to dispute that?

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 09:07 PM

Redownload the ISO, then burn it to a DVD using 4x speed with ImgBurn.


If still no luck, you should grab the latest firmware for your drive and throw it on a thumb drive for when it asks you to load it when that error appears. If STILL no go, do you not have other DVD drives you can temporarily MacGuyver to your motherboard in some ass backwards way just for installing Windows 7?


this is what i have done so far:
burned the iso at 4x speed twice. both times failed.
then put it on a bootable usb and still same error.
im redownloading the iso as of now.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 09:47 PM

I did browse around. There seemed to be plenty of people running 5670s in Insperion 580MTs which was the model that seems to be the 620MT's immediate predecessor. Most of the sites threads I saw seemed to think that in most builds this card was ok with a 300w power supply. Do you have a specific reason to dispute that?

AMD recommends a 400w PSU for this card.

Admittedly, I know nothing about specific Dell models and not much about that card. But many people run into PSU issues when trying to upgrade a Dell's graphics card. If you want a pre-built machine for gaming, you might be better served finding one with a graphics card built in, or one from a different vendor who will specify what wattage of PSU you will receive.

#1913 Corvix

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 10:53 PM

Holy shit clear I just got home from work and this massive box was chillen on my stoop. And alittle manilla envelope with the ram in it next to it lol. Thats one huge ass box. Havn't opened anything yet. Havn't decided if Im going to keep it. Still havn't 100% decided on anything /le sigh

#1914 crystalklear64

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 11:03 PM

i'd be pissed for having them leave that stuff on my porch.

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#1915 Corvix

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 11:26 PM

Eh. So after playing with it are you keeping it?

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 11:33 PM

i'd be pissed for having them leave that stuff on my porch.


My UPS guy refuses to leave anything without a signature (even if I leave a note, however, a neighbor can sign if I leave a note for that), while FedEx will leave anything if I don't answer within 30 seconds.
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#1917 Corvix

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 12:03 AM

I'm alright, I live in gated community and my neighbors love me cause I mow their lawn.

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 03:56 PM

Just a heads up to anyone interested in getting a SSD: NeweggBusiness is offering 15% off all SSDs. I ordered a 120gb Vertex 3 for ~$215 (overkill, I know).

You can just make up a business and they'll accept it. I can confirm this, because I already registered Wayne Enterprises.

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#1919 cgarb84

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 08:33 PM

I can buy another GTX 460 for around $180 AR. Paired together 2 460's in SLI SHOULD be about the same as one GTX 580. It would cost me about $260 less to go the SLI route over buying a new 580. Is there any reason out there why I shouldn't go this route if I want to improve my GPU situation?
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#1920 crystalklear64

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 11:04 PM

just the issues inherent in SLI and the 4XX series. its loud, its hot, it takes a lot of juice, have to worry about microstutter, whether or not your games will work with SLI. if you're cool with all that, can't think of a reason, better have a nice PSU. The 4XX series is a bitch for power.

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