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#2311 dmaul1114

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:15 AM

K State probably stays ahead of WVU, but otherwise spot on.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:24 AM

WVU takes care of Texas 48-45. Our defense is awful, but I'm not sure there's anyone who can outscore us as long as our key talent stays healthy.

Smith only goes for 268 yards n 25/35 passing. But 4 TDs and no Ints. 24 TDs and no Ints on the Season.


Don't forget the two fumbles in the UT red zone.

#2313 dmaul1114

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:30 AM

Yep, but hard to pin those on Smith. Got nailed from behind both times.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 02:01 PM

Screw my team. After halftime, our team didn't have fire in their eyes. We became compliance and obviously lost because of it. I saw on NC State's bench after halftime and those guys had killer instinct. Fisher is uninspiring, Manuel is night/day... all this talent and we are the same team every year losing to a mediocre team. I don't care about losses to Oklahoma, etc but NC State... Fuck that!

Let's see all the coaching blunders...
- 3rd and 2 in FG range, and go into shotgun for a sack (out of range); a normal coach calls a run up the middle with a powerback.
- Thompson (our small/fast back) struggles in the second half. Instead of going to the rested Bruiser back i.e. James Wilder Jr, we continue to try and pound with the smaller tired runningback; a normal coach uses all his weapons.
- Miami had 500+ throwing yards against NC State but yet we didn't throw the ball much at all in the second half; a normal coach exploits a secondary that a week prior gave up tons of yards.

#2315 dmaul1114

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 02:18 PM

I'm still pumped about WVU's win. Maybe the biggest road win in program history, other than maybe an upset at Oklahoma in the early 80s when Nehlen was just starting to build WVU into a national contender. Biggest crowd WVU has ever played before with over 101,000 there last night, and they didn't flinch.

Offense showed balance, actually ran the ball more than passing it. Shows we can run the ball (even without our starting RB who was still out with injury) when teams focus on trying to shut down the pass. Defense still struggled, but got some key stops when needed this time, after getting pretty much no key stops last week. And the team showed a lot of killer instinct in big situations--i.e. went for it on 4th down 5 times and go the first down all 5 times.

Hope they stay focused next week though, as that game at Texas Tech is a classic trap game being sandwiched in between UT last night and K-State the week after.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 02:31 PM

Screw my team. After halftime, our team didn't have fire in their eyes. We became compliance and obviously lost because of it. I saw on NC State's bench after halftime and those guys had killer instinct. Fisher is uninspiring, Manuel is night/day... all this talent and we are the same team every year losing to a mediocre team. I don't care about losses to Oklahoma, etc but NC State... Fuck that!

Let's see all the coaching blunders...
- 3rd and 2 in FG range, and go into shotgun for a sack (out of range); a normal coach calls a run up the middle with a powerback.
- Thompson (our small/fast back) struggles in the second half. Instead of going to the rested Bruiser back i.e. James Wilder Jr, we continue to try and pound with the smaller tired runningback; a normal coach uses all his weapons.
- Miami had 500+ throwing yards against NC State but yet we didn't throw the ball much at all in the second half; a normal coach exploits a secondary that a week prior gave up tons of yards.


At a certain point you guys are going to get used to this. NC State always plays FSU tough. Plus they always play better the second half of the season and were projected to be a 10 win team at the start of the year.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 02:49 PM

I'm still pumped about WVU's win. Maybe the biggest road win in program history, other than maybe an upset at Oklahoma in the early 80s when Nehlen was just starting to build WVU into a national contender. Biggest crowd WVU has ever played before with over 101,000 there last night, and they didn't flinch.

Offense showed balance, actually ran the ball more than passing it. Shows we can run the ball (even without our starting RB who was still out with injury) when teams focus on trying to shut down the pass. Defense still struggled, but got some key stops when needed this time, after getting pretty much no key stops last week. And showed a lot of killer instinct in big situations--i.e. went for it on 4th down 5 times and go the first down all 5 times.

Hope they stay focused next week though, as that game at Texas Tech is a classic trap game being sandwiched in between UT last night and K-State the week after.


Yeah that was an impressive win especially on the road. Honestly going into that game I was kinda rooting for Texas because I thought WVU and Geno Smith got way too much hype last week. Yeah they scored 70 but they allowed Baylor to hang 63 on them. That and the fact they had only beaten Maryland by 10. All of the writers were acting like the Heisman race was over and you might as well just give him the trophy now. They did an awesome job against a legit (but somewhat struggling as of late) Texas defense. I thought as soon as they played a Big 12 team with a real defense they would be exposed. So far they've proven me wrong.

The KSU-WVU matchup will be a huge one in a couple weeks assuming both teams stay undefeated and don't slip up. Iowa State is coming off a big win over TCU and always seems to play KSU tough (Farmageddon!). That could easily be a trap game.

Kansas State did get somewhat screwed in the scheduling this year. All of their big games are on the road with the exception of Texas.

Hey Mizzou, how's that move to the SEC working out for ya? Yeah, the Big 12 is still here stronger than ever and you guys still haven't posted a conference win. M-I-Z 0-&-3!
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#2318 dmaul1114

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:32 PM

AP Poll

1 Alabama (60) 5-0 1500
2 Oregon 6-0 1435
3 South Carolina 6-0 1359
4 Florida 5-0 1265
5 West Virginia 5-0 1260
6 Kansas State 5-0 1217
7 Notre Dame 5-0 1176
8 Ohio State 6-0 1053
9 LSU 5-1 938
10 Oregon State 4-0 873
11 USC 4-1 812
12 Florida State 5-1 800
13 Oklahoma 3-1 756
14 Georgia 5-1 733
15 Texas 4-1 711
16 Clemson 5-1 657
17 Stanford 4-1 587
18 Louisville 5-0 494
19 Mississippi State 5-0 450
20 Rutgers 5-0 331
21 Cincinnati 4-0 205
22 Texas A&M 4-1 153
23 Louisiana Tech 5-0 129
24 Boise State 4-1 114
25 Michigan 3-2 82


Coach's Poll

1 Alabama (58) 5-0 1,474 1
2 Oregon (1) 6-0 1,411 2
3 South Carolina 6-0 1,345 6
4 West Virginia 5-0 1,296 7
5 Kansas State 5-0 1,216 8
6 Florida 5-0 1,165 11
7 Notre Dame 5-0 1,152 10
8 LSU 5-1 961 3
9 USC 4-1 940 12
10 Oklahoma 3-1 872 14
11 Florida State 5-1 819 4
12 Georgia 5-1 761 5
13 Clemson 5-1 759 15
14 Oregon State 4-0 691 17
15 Texas 4-1 663 9
16 Louisville 5-0 628 16
17 Stanford 4-1 577 18
18 Mississippi State 5-0 558 19
19 Rutgers 5-0 410 21
20 Cincinnati 4-0 365 23
21 Texas A&M 4-1 208 NR
22 Boise State 4-1 197 25
23 TCU 4-1 194 13
24 Louisiana Tech 5-0 131 NR
25 Iowa State 4-1 73 NR

Six of the 10 Big 12 schools are ranked in the coach's poll.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:43 PM

OMG... My Irish have a defense! No TDs allowed in 3 games.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:55 PM

LSU is not a top 10 team.
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#2321 Chitown021

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 05:33 PM

OMG... My Irish have a defense! No TDs allowed in 3 games.


No kidding! Coming into this season I was just hoping we'd improve enough to hold opponents to 20 points to give our offense an chance!

It's been impressive so far but that young secondary worries me. Our front line has been hiding some of the blemishes by getting so much pressure on opposing QB's. If we run into a team that can pass block they're going to be tested.

We got extremely lucky last night that Miami dropped the ball. If they go up 7-0 like they should have that ballgame might have gone differently.
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#2322 pitfallharry219

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 05:34 PM

Did I hear right last night that Notre Dame hasn't trailed in a game all season?

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 05:41 PM

Did I hear right last night that Notre Dame hasn't trailed in a game all season?


That's probably right. The only game I can think of that we might've fallen behind in was Purdue but it might just be that they tied us before we kicked the game winning FG.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:07 PM

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1) Space Invader 2) Pokemon 3) Tetris 4) Mario 5) Halo 6) Zelda 7) Mario again 8) Pacman
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:30 PM

^As hard as it is for me to admit it, that was pretty cool.
Especially the Epona section in the Zelda part, it was excellent.
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#2326 blindinglights

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:47 PM

Yeah that was an impressive win especially on the road. Honestly going into that game I was kinda rooting for Texas because I thought WVU and Geno Smith got way too much hype last week. Yeah they scored 70 but they allowed Baylor to hang 63 on them. That and the fact they had only beaten Maryland by 10. All of the writers were acting like the Heisman race was over and you might as well just give him the trophy now. They did an awesome job against a legit (but somewhat struggling as of late) Texas defense. I thought as soon as they played a Big 12 team with a real defense they would be exposed. So far they've proven me wrong.



Geno doesn't play on defense man. The Heisman is supposed to be an individual award. He means a lot to that team and unlike the other contenders, he's yet to slip up in a game. As it stands, it's his to lose.
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 09:38 PM

Geno doesn't play on defense man. The Heisman is supposed to be an individual award. He means a lot to that team and unlike the other contenders, he's yet to slip up in a game. As it stands, it's his to lose.


I know but my point was that the stats aren't as impressive IMHO because he racked them up against a team that wasn't even trying to play defense. It's like calling someone a Heisman winner after running it up on Furman and Holy Cross. Now that he's done it against a stronger opponent it gives his stats more validity.
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:55 AM

Well, I thought W.Viginia should jump K.State but I really didn't think Florida would move up as high as they did.
I guess the AP pollsters feel that LSU is better than I do.
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#2329 dmaul1114

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:57 PM

I know but my point was that the stats aren't as impressive IMHO because he racked them up against a team that wasn't even trying to play defense. It's like calling someone a Heisman winner after running it up on Furman and Holy Cross. Now that he's done it against a stronger opponent it gives his stats more validity.


His yardage and total tds are inflated from they Baylor game.

But what's most impressive is his completion percentage (81.4%- 166/204), having 24 TDs and 0 INTs and his QB rating (202.4).

Those are just crazy given how much he's thrown, and how many of the passes are down field rather than short screens etc.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:40 PM

Well, I thought W.Viginia should jump K.State but I really didn't think Florida would move up as high as they did.
I guess the AP pollsters feel that LSU is better than I do.



It's the SEC bias. Just like the Notre Dame bias (yes, I'm a huge fan but admit the pollsters are idiots most years and rank us when we don't deserve it or haven't proven it).

Honestly I'm surprised that the pollsters are giving Kansas State this much credit. Typically the kids from the Little Apple get shit on in the polls.
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#2331 dmaul1114

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:52 PM

Not a ton of ranked match ups this weekend, but still some big games and some potential trap games for ranked teams.

#3 SC @ #9 LSU
#17 Stanford @ #7 ND
#15 Texas @ #13 Oklahoma
#22 Texas A&M @ #23 Lousiana Tech
#5 WVU @ Texas Tech
#6 Kansas State @ Iowa State (they're ranked in Coach's poll)
#10 Oregon State @ BYU

#2332 pitfallharry219

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:00 PM

If LSU beats South Carolina, Notre Dame beats Stanford, and everyone ranked above 7th besides SC wins, do you think LSU would leap ND in the polls?

#2333 dmaul1114

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:14 PM

I doubt it. Not going to jump a 1 loss team ahead of unbeaten ND in that case.

I'm hoping LSU wins though and SC beats Florida next week. Then all the SEC East teams have a loss, and can play spoiler for Alabama in the SEC title game. Would be nice to have a shot at a title game without an SEC team for once.

Oregon vs. WVU or K-State (if one of them win out) would be an exciting matchup.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:59 PM

I doubt it. Not going to jump a 1 loss team ahead of unbeaten ND in that case.

I'm hoping LSU wins though and SC beats Florida next week. Then all the SEC East teams have a loss, and can play spoiler for Alabama in the SEC title game. Would be nice to have a shot at a title game without an SEC team for once.

Oregon vs. WVU or K-State (if one of them win out) would be an exciting matchup.


I think at this point 'Bama is a shoe-in. Everyone else is fighting for that other spot. I would love for WVU to be the other team.

#2335 blindinglights

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:33 PM

I doubt it. Not going to jump a 1 loss team ahead of unbeaten ND in that case.

I'm hoping LSU wins though and SC beats Florida next week. Then all the SEC East teams have a loss, and can play spoiler for Alabama in the SEC title game. Would be nice to have a shot at a title game without an SEC team for once.

Oregon vs. WVU or K-State (if one of them win out) would be an exciting matchup.


I wouldn't bet on a one loss SEC East team being left out of the championship game just because Oregon and a Big 12 team are undefeated.

Not that I agree with it, but still.

#2336 dmaul1114

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:06 PM

I wouldn't bet on a one loss SEC East team being left out of the championship game just because Oregon and a Big 12 team are undefeated.

Not that I agree with it, but still.


I don't see an 1 loss SEC team getting in over an unbeaten Oregon or Big 12 team. They'd definitely get in over those teams if those teams also had 1 loss.

But if they're unbeaten they'd be ahead of the SEC team in the human polls, and probably in the computer part of the BCS too as they'd all have pretty tough schedules. I mean 6 out of 10 Big 12 teams are ranked in the Coach's poll currently.

Just no way unbeaten major conference teams get left out in favor of 1 loss teams. With equal records the SEC champ definitely gets in most years (though Auburn did get left out in 2004). But the bias isn't such that they'd get in over unbeaten Pac 10/Big 12 champs.


As for Alabama being a shoo in, I wouldn't go that far. I think LSU, SC and Florida would all have a shot at taking them down in the season/SEC title game.

Oregon or WVU could have a chance in a title game as well just from being so explosive on offense. Especially Oregon since they have a solid defense to go with it for once.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:31 PM

I don't see an 1 loss SEC team getting in over an unbeaten Oregon or Big 12 team. They'd definitely get in over those teams if those teams also had 1 loss.

But if they're unbeaten they'd be ahead of the SEC team in the human polls, and probably in the computer part of the BCS too as they'd all have pretty tough schedules. I mean 6 out of 10 Big 12 teams are ranked in the Coach's poll currently.

Just no way unbeaten major conference teams get left out in favor of 1 loss teams. With equal records the SEC champ definitely gets in most years (though Auburn did get left out in 2004). But the bias isn't such that they'd get in over unbeaten Pac 10/Big 12 champs.


As for Alabama being a shoo in, I wouldn't go that far. I think LSU, SC and Florida would all have a shot at taking them down in the season/SEC title game.

Oregon or WVU could have a chance in a title game as well just from being so explosive on offense. Especially Oregon since they have a solid defense to go with it for once.


I agree that there is no way a 1 loss SEC team jumps two undefeated big conferrence teams. However if they have all lost a game SEC wins out.

Another team worth paying attention to is ND. ND is the wild card this year. If all of the aforementioned teams go undefeated they might be able to jump Oregon and WVU.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:00 PM

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#2339 dmaul1114

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:35 PM

Another team worth paying attention to is ND. ND is the wild card this year. If all of the aforementioned teams go undefeated they might be able to jump Oregon and WVU.


I doubt it. They're schedule isn't as tough since Michigan and Michigan State are down, and Standford and USC a bit as well (particularly if both lose to Oregon and/or Oregon State).

But probably moot as I figure ND at least loses to Oklahoma, and may go down to Standford or USC as well.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:54 PM

I doubt it. They're schedule isn't as tough since Michigan and Michigan State are down, and Standford and USC a bit as well (particularly if both lose to Oregon and/or Oregon State).

But probably moot as I figure ND at least loses to Oklahoma, and may go down to Standford or USC as well.


They're Notre Dame. You'll see the polls shift in their favor if they keep it up. As far as their odds of going undefeated... well they're about as good as WVU or Oregon.