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Valve FAILS at L4D2 pre-order demo release


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#1 snookie_wookums

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 10:54 PM

The only reason most of the L4D junkies I know agreed to pre-order the game was because of the demo releasing today. Now after waiting weeks for it, Valve pushed it back to tomorrow at 2AM!!! Massive FAIL! You should see how the forums at steampowered.com are lighting up like a Christmas tree. Last time I will pre-order a Valve game for sure.

#2 SynGamer

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 11:21 PM

Oh noes, delayed a day! Get the Fuck over it! Go outside, play a different game, cry into your pillow about how much your life sucks. The demo will still be released a day late.

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#3 snookie_wookums

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 12:37 AM

Oh noes, delayed a day! Get the Fuck over it! Go outside, play a different game, cry into your pillow about how much your life sucks. The demo will still be released a day late.


Right, so the next you get something different than you paid for then according to your logic you should just shut up and deal with it instead of speaking up. Thanks for being a concerned citizen.

#4 Hydro2Oxide

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 12:49 AM

Don't get me wrong, when I buy something I expect to get what I want but it's less than a day pushed back. Chill out man. And I think the reason everyone pre-ordered is because of the $34 price tag.

#5 GaveUpTomorrow

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 12:53 AM

Um, you did not buy a demo, you bought the game. Pre-orders get pushed back all of the time, sometimes months or even years, so I'm not sure why anyone would whine about a 1 day delay for a demo. I can't believe this is actually a big concern in your life...people will complain about anything...


#6 snookie_wookums

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 01:02 AM

There are of course more important things to be pissed off about, but I wasn't exactly posting on biglifeproblems.com. This is *supposed* to be a gaming community, and your attitudes frankly suck as consumers. Sure, demos are released late all the time, but in this particular case, Valve used it specifically to sell the game so it is indeed a part of why I (and many others) bought the game.

It's cool if you prefer to play the Halos but since L4D was a more important game for me, of course I'm pissed about it. Big concern in my life? Hardly, but you must be a better role model for all the kids of the world who should learn to just take a lie to the face and deal with it.

#7 Tancred

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 01:14 AM

Valve's pathetic Steam servers probably can't even handle the load.

I was attempting to re-install Red Orchestra and both of it's mods. Throughout the day the maximum speed it was downloading was at 80 kB/s. Several times it said
"Steam servers are too busy to handle your request."

Tons of people can't even download the demo for Torchlight off of Steam.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 01:27 AM

Oh boo fucking hoo, one day, go play with your rattle.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 01:36 AM

You are not entitled to the demo. It is a bonus of purchasing the game. You're entitled to the game, which you paid for, and it is not out yet. You're at the mercy of the developers and you have no right to complain.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 01:37 AM

No big deal. One day is nothing.

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#11 Athefre

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 01:40 AM

My brother preordered on Amazon, will he get a preorder code? He checked his email and didn't see anything about it.

#12 crystalklear64

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:00 AM

you pre-ordered l4d2, you deserve every misfortune.

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#13 Jodou

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:10 AM

I could really care less about the demo anymore, but it's still funny to watch Valve pour salt in an open wound.

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#14 donteatsoap7

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:19 AM

Would anyone be willing to give away their code..?

#15 snookie_wookums

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 03:50 AM

you pre-ordered l4d2, you deserve every misfortune.


OK, all these other $$$$$$s here can burn in hell for being so accepting of Valve's Fuck-up, but yours is the first comment I've seen so far that is actually acceptable. And Fuck you. That is all for now.

#16 snookie_wookums

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 03:51 AM

I could really care less about the demo anymore, but it's still funny to watch Valve pour salt in an open wound.



EXACTLY!!:applause:

#17 snookie_wookums

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 03:53 AM

My brother preordered on Amazon, will he get a preorder code? He checked his email and didn't see anything about it.


He might have to email Amazon customer service for that. Good luck, they use the morons that got fired for incompetence from Dell.

#18 snookie_wookums

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:00 AM

You are not entitled to the demo. It is a bonus of purchasing the game. You're entitled to the game, which you paid for, and it is not out yet. You're at the mercy of the developers and you have no right to complain.


This is an invalid statement. If you buy an Apple Macbook and get a bonus iPod, are you not entitled to that bonus either? Are you "at the mercy" of Apple since you "paid for" the Macbook?

As a consumer, you ALWAYS have the right to complain, or else we'd all be lunching on ratmeat at McDonald's because nobody thought you should say anything when you got a rat McRib that other time. Really, I hope that someday when I open up a business I have such an understanding bunch of suckers for customers.

#19 kilm

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:10 AM

This is an invalid statement. If you buy an Apple Macbook and get a bonus iPod, are you not entitled to that bonus either? Are you "at the mercy" of Apple since you "paid for" the Macbook?


If that iPod had a tentative and subject-to-change release date, then you would be right. But that's not the case.

Solution: Panic, cancel pre-order, new boycott.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:46 AM

So are you going to be rip shit if for some reason the actual game gets delayed? Seriously though if you are set up a video camera I want to see your brains covering your keyboard after that announcement.

Shit happens, shit gets delayed. Think of it this way, do you get everything done on time?
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#21 twztid13

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:20 AM

if im paid to then heck yeah.

#22 SEH

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 06:26 AM

I would've cared...but Borderlands came out.

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#23 snookie_wookums

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 12:52 PM

Man you are really some low-expectation-having motherfuckers in here. And the demo has been pushed back again as of this morning. Really, if you guys ever ask yourselves why you don't have more of the things you want, look back at this thread and how accepting you are of failure. Good luck in life.

#24 snookie_wookums

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 12:54 PM

I would've cared...but Borderlands came out.


How is that? Only heard from one person and they said it felt too much like TF2 with lego weapons.

#25 snookie_wookums

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 01:04 PM

if im paid to then heck yeah.


My friend, you and I are the only ones in here who respect deadlines. :applause:

#26 Hydro2Oxide

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 01:14 PM

How is that? Only heard from one person and they said it felt too much like TF2 with lego weapons.


Having 2 cynical people hang out is never a good idea.

Anyhow, wookums I respect your expecting the utmost out of developers but this is Valve we're talking about. They wouldn't push back the demo unless they had a fire in the server room and couldn't take the load for the download frenzy, or there was some crazy glitch in the demo that broke the game or something. Releasing an early demo is way above and beyond what most companies do for pre-order bonuses, on top of the crazy small pricetag and that exclusive bat.

#27 rumarudrathas

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 01:35 PM

Having 2 cynical people hang out is never a good idea.

Anyhow, wookums I respect your expecting the utmost out of developers but this is Valve we're talking about. They wouldn't push back the demo unless they had a fire in the server room and couldn't take the load for the download frenzy, or there was some crazy glitch in the demo that broke the game or something. Releasing an early demo is way above and beyond what most companies do for pre-order bonuses, on top of the crazy small pricetag and that exclusive bat.


I'm going to agree with Hyrdo here. If Valve is intentionally delaying a demo release, it's going to be for a very valid reason. A company releasing a demo of any kind is a fairly risky gamble, because the demo is serving as a first impression for the product, and we know how important first impressions are. Hell, look at the amount of flame the OP is getting from the blatant subject title.

Anyways, What's a day? I'm been waiting for Diablo 3 ever since I finished Diablo 2 before I got to college. You're still getting early access, and the bat. Did the release date change (no)? Are they nixing the access to the demo in it's entirety (no)?

I like the OP's fandom for the game, but seriously? Reminds me of that fake angry german kid video....

#28 snookie_wookums

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 04:50 PM

Hydro and rum, you raise good ppints. At the end of the day, it comes down to one thing: a deadline is a deadline is a deadline. When Valve released the date of the demo launch, they gave a commitment, just like the commitment of the game launch day.

Yeah you could say that they haven't changed the release date, just like they never changed the demo release date. My point: if you take a frog and throw it into a pot of boiling water it will jump right out but if you put that same frog into a pot of warm water and slowly raise the temperature, it will sit there and boil to death.

In reality, a frog will die instantly as soon as you throw it into a pot of boiling water, but the point is that when you sit and allow stuff like this to happen without any outrage, sooner or later you end up with Duke-Nukem-Forever-levels of delays. And all of this is why young people always get crushed by older people in politics and life in general; older people care enough to voice their opinions and exercise their right to organize and vote, all the while teaching their kids to accept what life and people in power give to them.

As a group of people with a common interest and money to spend on that interest, it is not our job to make excuses for Valve's, Blizzard's, or any other publisher's Fuck ups. It's our duty to ourselves to think and say that when they Fuck up, just like our bosses would at work, we need to hold them accountable to that so they don't think we're just going to sit and take it whenever they feel like changing dates around. FFS, the water around L4D2 for example has already gotten warmer.

#29 Hydro2Oxide

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:56 PM

Well I personally already got out of that pot of boiling water by not buying the same game I bought a year ago. I'm surprised you're so enraged by this, but are willing to throw down the cash for Left 4 Dead 1.5

Anyhow, have fun with the demo.

#30 Jodou

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 06:06 PM

Well I personally already got out of that pot of boiling water by not buying the same game I bought a year ago. I'm surprised you're so enraged by this, but are willing to throw down the cash for Left 4 Dead 1.5

Anyhow, have fun with the demo.

For real, nothing I've seen impressed me as 'too big to package as free DLC'. Maybe if Valve had spent the last year releasing stuff every month, it wouldn't be such a large package. Taking bets as to how many of the campaigns are available in versus mode at launch!

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