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#2311 Kenshindono

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:24 AM

Well guess im not getting Mugen souls.. while I actually find that bath thing disturbing and pervy as crap, I absolutely can not stand censorship of any kind and wont buy a game if it has it. Too bad =( Actually i dont think that would get an AO rating. There was no actual nudity that i could see. Everything was covered by steam and soap. Good old USA. SHow as much dismemberment and horrible violence as you want: No problem. But show an obscured bum or side-boob and people go nuts *shakes head*

BTW did I hear Rie Kugimiyas voice there? I think as the pink haired chick
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#2312 AugustAPC

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:32 AM

You've probably purchased several games that censor things and don't even realize it. Regardless... that is the stupidest shit I've ever seen in an RPG. Seriously? Scrubbing static images of 5 year old girls in provocative positions? I don't even know what the Fuck to say about that.

There's no nudity... it could be a reach for a Mature rating. It'd definitely be a push for America. There's plenty of Mature rated games with gratuitous nudity. God of War, Dante's Inferno, Heavy Rain. It's not the nudity that's pushing the ratings... it's the sexual innuendo with what appear to be infants. But honestly... I hope they censor it. I don't think I could play Mugen Souls if I had to fondle preschoolers.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:13 AM

There's plenty of Mature rated games with gratuitous nudity. God of War, Dante's Inferno, Heavy Rain. It's not the nudity that's pushing the ratings... it's the sexual innuendo with what appear to be infants. But honestly... I hope they censor it. I don't think I could play Mugen Souls if I had to fondle preschoolers.


Lol infants? Americans. It's ok for little girls to be skimpy at the beach, or have a movie with a nude underage girl win best picture, but moe drawings gets compared to infants.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:36 AM

Yes it is. I don't really like how it's packed because if you take out the shirt, half of the box is empty, and you have to kinda watch where you put it so it doesn't get smashed. I have all of my games on bookshelves.


That is exactly how it is. With the tshirt out of the box the game book and soundtrack are loose in the box. The shirt takes up most of the room. Even with NIS excellent packing there was still some creasing on the box since the shirt does not support the box well and is not packed tight
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#2315 sultangaming

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:38 AM

That is exactly how it is. With the tshirt out of the box the game book and soundtrack are loose in the box. The shirt takes up most of the room. Even with NIS excellent packing there was still some creasing on the box since the shirt does not support the box well and is not packed tight


A user on NISA forums told me it is perfect to fit the whole Arland collection inside, if you remove the shirt and everything. :lol:

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#2316 Dark_Sage

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:31 PM

But honestly... I hope they censor it. I don't think I could play Mugen Souls if I had to fondle preschoolers.


What a comment. Why exactly are you in the Japanese Niche Games Thread if you can't handle ecchi?

#2317 drtomoe123

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 03:28 PM

What a comment. Why exactly are you in the Japanese Niche Games Thread if you can't handle ecchi?


Because not every single niche Japanese game is totally dependent on ecchi?

#2318 Zaku77

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 03:50 PM

I have go agree that the bath thing is just a little bit over the top. I absolutely hate censorship, but in this case I am perfectly alright with it. I think the artistic image of the designer will be maintained just fine without it. Lol

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#2319 lutz

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 04:32 PM

http://andriasang.co...gen_souls_bath/

There is no way to release that without getting a AO.


The only people buying this game would be eligible for purchasing AO titles.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 04:40 PM

The only people buying this game would be eligible for purchasing AO titles.


1) Most Retail stores refuse to stock AO games.
2) I'm 16 and buy a ton of niche Japanese games. My parents don't mind M games but I gotta figure they wouldn't be happy with AO.

#2321 barrit

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 05:15 PM

1) Most Retail stores refuse to stock AO games.
2) I'm 16 and buy a ton of niche Japanese games. My parents don't mind M games but I gotta figure they wouldn't be happy with AO.


The only AO games you'll find are for the PC. Sony or Microsoft does not allow them for their systems.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 05:58 PM

Did anyone's Atelier Meruru LE get lost in the mail?

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:17 PM

Did anyone's Atelier Meruru LE get lost in the mail?

I just got mine today. NISA shipping is a little slow, but at least its free.

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#2324 Verelios

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:26 PM

I'm really going to have to agree with NISA on this one. Some of the static images for those bath scenes...the third on in particular are really- yeah.

I'll probably still enjoy the game even with some of that content censored.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:27 PM

Did anyone's Atelier Meruru LE get lost in the mail?


I got mine today as well. You guys were right about the t shirt taking up the whole box.

Man you people are cheap.

 


#2326 Dark_Sage

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:00 PM

I absolutely hate censorship, but in this case I am perfectly alright with it.


I don't think you know what "absolutely" means.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:50 PM

Lol infants? Americans. It's ok for little girls to be skimpy at the beach, or have a movie with a nude underage girl win best picture, but moe drawings gets compared to infants.


I wasn't aware that little girls on the beach were sticking their asses and pussies in your face whilst only being covered by soap suds.

smh

#2328 elessar123

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:57 PM

I wasn't aware that little girls on the beach were sticking their asses and pussies in your face whilst only being covered by soap suds.

smh


And one is real, and one is not. So killing people I games should be illegal too? They look like real people. So what if you're not doing it in real life. You could.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:04 PM

Killing things in games is fun. Fondling toddlers is not.

You're comparing violence as a form of entertainment to pedophilia as the same thing. Pretty... well... sick.

Keep trying, though.

#2330 Dark_Sage

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:52 PM

You're seriously arguing that killing people in games is "entertainment" whereas rubbing bubbles away from chibi-themed girls (without any nudity) is "pedophilia". Wow.

If you think this game would make you a pedophile, then there are more issues here than your prudish desire to force censorship on things you dislike. Don't like it? Fine. But don't assume that others have the same problems with games that you do.

#2331 Zaku77

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:08 PM

I don't think you know what "absolutely" means.


Also, hate may have technically been too strong of a word by 1/8 or so. I can't even decide if that was trolling or not...


On a side note, why are people defending this loli/pedo fest? The game may be awesome, and I'm a huge RPG fan, but that doesn't mean I have to be a blind fanboy to all things Japanese. This is pretty messed up. Why on earth defend it?

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#2332 Kenshindono

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:43 PM

Christ looks like that sparked off a little flame war. Personally I do think these scenes are a bit much, but the fact that they're being censored is far more offensive to me than the actual content. Besides, if im not mistaken they are a side quest part of the game and not critical to the gameplay at all. So dont rub up those loli's if you dont want to. Whats the problem?


I have go agree that the bath thing is just a little bit over the top. I absolutely hate censorship, but in this case I am perfectly alright with it. I think the artistic image of the designer will be maintained just fine without it. Lol



Also, hate may have technically been too strong of a word by 1/8 or so. I can't even decide if that was trolling or not...


On a side note, why are people defending this loli/pedo fest? The game may be awesome, and I'm a huge RPG fan, but that doesn't mean I have to be a blind fanboy to all things Japanese. This is pretty messed up. Why on earth defend it?

Remember people, this is what you are trying to defend:


No. People aren't defending a 'loli pedo fest.' Well, at least I'm not. I am trying to defend putting out an UNCENSORED GAME, Regardless of the content. I dont give a crap if i like it or I dont. Censorship of any kind is bad IMO. Its the same reason I feel the KKK has the right to do their stupid little protests and rally's. I dont like it, but free speech and is a two way street. Saying you absolutely hate censorship of any kind.. but are alright with THIS form of censorship seems like a very odd statement. Basically your saying your ok with people censoring stuff you don't like, but its not cool to censor stuff you do like? It doesn't work that way

Im sure people who want to censor the hell outa any kinda violence in videogames use the same argument/logic. Should Jack Thompson and his ilk be able to censor the violence in other games too? By the arguments I'm seeing here i guess a lot of you would think yes

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#2333 elessar123

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:51 PM

Basically your saying your ok with people censoring stuff you don't like, but its not cool to censor stuff you do like? It doesn't work that way


1000 times this.

Something like showing the raping of an adult is perfectly ok in our society, but suggestive drawings are not. WTF?

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:52 PM

You're seriously arguing that killing people in games is "entertainment" whereas rubbing bubbles away from chibi-themed girls (without any nudity) is "pedophilia". Wow.

If you think this game would make you a pedophile, then there are more issues here than your prudish desire to force censorship on things you dislike. Don't like it? Fine. But don't assume that others have the same problems with games that you do.


I'm just going to go the "you're an idiot" route on this one.

"Chibi-themed", really? Is that what we're using to try to justify oversexualizing young toddlers?

But seriously, you're an idiot. Like, really, a fuckin' dipshit. Sorry to be explicit, but I'm just being real. Look how defensive you're being over something as stupid as this game "mechanic". First off, my "prudish desire" isn't to "force" anything. It's simply a preference not to have to molest 6 year-olds in my strategy games. Also, I never assumed anything. I know there's idiots out there (you're living proof) that will defend anything Japan ejaculates onto the figurative face of America, regardless of how ridiculous it is.

And before you go crying about how I shouldn't be in this thread and if I don't like Japanese games, not to play them. I own nearly all of NISA's console based RPGs, including their collector's editions. I play them because I enjoy a good story and strategy. Hell, I even love nice set of tits to ogle while I'm playing, but those set of tits need to be ripened, and not have an entire game mechanic based on them.

So yes, Fuck you and your creepy and overly-defensive desire to justify this shit stain of a mini-game.

1000 times this.

Something like showing the raping of an adult is perfectly ok in our society, but suggestive drawings are not. WTF?


Also, either dumb as shit or scared to actually address the real issue. Suggestive drawings are fine, just not of little girls. This isn't a matter of sex versus violence in video games, it's just a matter of disgusting, pedophilic content. I actually believe you're aware of this and are just trying to avoid it so you don't have to admit how much of a creeper it makes you to actually support this.

#2335 Zaku77

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:55 PM

I see what you're saying, Kenshin, but I can't help but feel it's different. A KKK member can point to hip hop culture or some other retarded example and say "This is why I feel this way". Is there any justification in the world for any of those bath scenes apart from "Little girls are hot"?

It really is quite an ironic statement that I've made, but I think that is telling of the topic. I am very against censorship, and I fully agree with your statement about free speech. I also think this is un-equivocally messed up. I seem to be presenting a bit of a double standard here. I guess I'm trying to say that some situations call for one. I would even be more nonchalant about the whole situation if it had to do with dialog or story. This is just a messed up little mini game. The overall game will be exactly the same without it. No story changes, and no reshaping of characters. (This is an assumption. I guess it is possible that these are integral to the plot :3 lol)

Also, elessar, it's suggestive images of what looks to be a 5 year old child. That type of thing is about as taboo as it can possibly be. It is, indeed, FAR more so than an adult rape scene.

As far as me being against something I don't like... does someone like this then? Is this a thing that people are into? I certainly hope not. When it comes to kiddy porn (or right on the damn verge of it) NO ONE should be into it, and it shouldn't even be a question. When it's in regards to this subject matter, is being against it 'biased' or is it just the sane thing to do?

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 12:03 AM

I'm not defending this game. Heck, I still think Neptunia mk2 went in the wrong direction as far as story and characters are concerned. It's all about the censorship. If it was okay for Japanese PS3s, why the heck I get the gimped version.

Can we stop comparing video games to real life yet? Whether your a pedo or a serial killer, you're still going to get punished by the law if caught. One advantage of killing in a game, it's not illegal to own this kind of media.

Again, I'm not for this game, I just don't want censorship.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 12:04 AM

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How about an option to play the game with all of this kind of content removed. That would be a reasonable compromise. The creepers can have their content and I can play my game.

Regardless, if I hear one more complaint about serialization being wrong and violence being acceptable as a double-standard I'm gonna have an aneurism. I'll say it one last time. There are tons of M rated games with nudity and sexuality in them. This isn't about sexuality. It's about oversexualizing TODDLERS.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 12:05 AM

This reminds me Modern Warfare 3's "No Russian" mission. I figured the same you can choose to participate in the mission just like in this Mugen Souls mini game.

I too find it quite strange how the worst/gratuitous forms of violence is more acceptable than a perverted sex scene. Give the game an "M" for mature rating and move along.

I don't support the "lolicon" lifestyle, but find it just as disturbing as a violent scene.

Edit: Seriously though, if you all have that much of a problem with the game, don't buy it! Show game developers/designers what you want in your games.

#2339 elessar123

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 12:07 AM

lol so are they 5 or 6?

#2340 Zaku77

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 12:07 AM

It's pervert scenes with what appear to be 5 year old children. Why are people not fully grasping the weight of that distinction? This is not a violence vs. sex debate. It really isn't. If this discussion was happening in regards to DoA: Extreme Beach Volleyball, for example, then all those points become extremely valid. It isn't, though!

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