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#151 wasurenai

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 09:33 PM

The costumes are already on the disc. What you're being forced to pay for is a code to unlock them.

BS, in my book.

#152 phantasyx

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 10:14 PM

Hey heres a tip for all newbies a DLC costume will never be 138 Kb EVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER!

that or any other download, versus was 138 kb as well they will be on the disc for that amount because 138 kb is essentially a long 10 page word document.

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 10:24 PM

He makes an interesting point, but if you look in the art that you can unlock in SFIV, it shows pictures of the alternate costumes which would lead you to believe that they were already done, at least in one form or another.

Also, if you have a problem with them "holding back" costumes, or releasing them at a later date, it does absolutely nothing to enhance the game, if only aesthetically, so just don't buy them


If you are talking about SFIV, all the alternate costumes for the main cast (excluding console-exclusive characters) were in the arcade version. But arcade players had to pay for them, too.
I'm not up in arms about DLC. This is how the industry does it. Complaining about it will get you nowhere. If you don't want to pay for the content, don't buy it. But don't think that your non-purchase is going to change the system, because there are plenty of people who WILL pay for it.
My solution is to use a Sony credit card, so that I get PSN points for free. I have zero qualms about DLC now.

#154 frpilot

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 10:28 PM

what about if you purchased the dlc alternate costumes for the original sf4.. has anyone read about those transferring over?

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 10:38 PM

If you are talking about SFIV, all the alternate costumes for the main cast (excluding console-exclusive characters) were in the arcade version. But arcade players had to pay for them, too.
I'm not up in arms about DLC. This is how the industry does it. Complaining about it will get you nowhere. If you don't want to pay for the content, don't buy it. But don't think that your non-purchase is going to change the system, because there are plenty of people who WILL pay for it.
My solution is to use a Sony credit card, so that I get PSN points for free. I have zero qualms about DLC now.


That was basically my point. Its one thing locking extra game modes and charging people for things (hello RE5) but something as extraneous as costumes, it's hard to relate to people that complain about something so meaningless. It's so much harder to win a match when Ryu doesn't look like he was drug by a horse for a few miles right before the match

#156 shouamabane

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 10:56 PM

what about if you purchased the dlc alternate costumes for the original sf4.. has anyone read about those transferring over?


They do.

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 11:02 PM

People still bitching but really all I hear is;


No matter how good looking she is, some one some where is sick of her shit.

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#158 SimaYi

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:07 AM

Clearly, some Street Fighter fans are capcom fanboys before cheapassgamers. Wouldn't matter if the game itself costed $100, or they actually did strip out characters and charge them as unlock keys, because there's always some weak-ass justification for them to hide behind.

#159 Rai Rai

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:19 AM

Clearly, some Street Fighter fans are capcom fanboys before cheapassgamers. Wouldn't matter if the game itself costed $100, or they actually did strip out characters and charge them as unlock keys, because there's always some weak-ass justification for them to hide behind.


Exaggeration ftl

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 06:47 AM

He makes an interesting point, but if you look in the art that you can unlock in SFIV, it shows pictures of the alternate costumes which would lead you to believe that they were already done, at least in one form or another.

Also, if you have a problem with them "holding back" costumes, or releasing them at a later date, it does absolutely nothing to enhance the game, if only aesthetically, so just don't buy them


Well, of course they were already done and available on the disc prior to launch. That's the whole point... Capcom budgeted the alternate costumes with the knowledge that they would profit from them. It was a smart business move and personally.. I was happy that they did it. I'm happy I have the CHOICE of buying extra costumes if I want to, and I do want to.

Exaggeration ftl


Not an exaggeration in my case and the case of a few of my friends, we'd gladly pay $100 for the next Street Fighter. I'm proud to be a Street Fighter fanboy (The Movie Game notwithstanding).

#161 lolwhat

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 08:21 AM

I'd buy any game that gave me years of entertainment for $100+

#162 Don illmatix

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 08:52 AM

What all of you need to understand, is what Capcom's Seth Killian Said:

"If you didnt like SF4, Youre not gonna like SSF4"

Street Fighter 4 is a great example of Popular demand finally getting what theyve been asking for after such a Long time

Super Street Fighter 4 is a great example of developers listening to the gamers, and rewarding them for sticking around.

If you cannot grasp these simple concepts, then Super Street Fighter 4 is not the game for you, and the Street Fighter community would appreciate it if you did not even buy the game. You either love it, or you dont.

Also, for anyone ignorant enough to talk about the pricing and the fact that it isnt DLC for SF4(Which i wont even get into) All i can say is this: If you dont think its worth the money, then you arent a true fan, and as said before, the game isnt for you. Either that, or you are very uninformed and should head over to the SRK community and read up on all of the amazing things going on for SSF4.

I would EASILY spend $100+ on SSF4 Considering the fact that I play SF4 more then just about every other game i own(Cept for gears and CoD, look at my gamercard lol) and thats what i consider being worth the money. Not games that you pay full price for and beat in a week.

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#163 Rai Rai

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 09:11 AM

What all of you need to understand, is what Capcom's Seth Killian Said:

"If you didnt like SF4, Youre not gonna like SSF4"

Street Fighter 4 is a great example of Popular demand finally getting what theyve been asking for after such a Long time

Super Street Fighter 4 is a great example of developers listening to the gamers, and rewarding them for sticking around.

If you cannot grasp these simple concepts, then Super Street Fighter 4 is not the game for you, and the Street Fighter community would appreciate it if you did not even buy the game. You either love it, or you dont.

Also, for anyone ignorant enough to talk about the pricing and the fact that it isnt DLC for SF4(Which i wont even get into) All i can say is this: If you dont think its worth the money, then you arent a true fan, and as said before, the game isnt for you. Either that, or you are very uninformed and should head over to the SRK community and read up on all of the amazing things going on for SSF4.

I would EASILY spend $100+ on SSF4 Considering the fact that I play SF4 more then just about every other game i own(Cept for gears and CoD, look at my gamercard lol) and thats what i consider being worth the money. Not games that you pay full price for and beat in a week.

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#164 INMATEofARKHAM

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 12:29 PM

Stupid question, (Oh, cool find OP!) does anyone think that the original costume packs from Street Fighter 4 carry over to Super Street Fighter 4?

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 01:02 PM

What all of you need to understand, is what Capcom's Seth Killian Said:

"If you didnt like SF4, Youre not gonna like SSF4"

Street Fighter 4 is a great example of Popular demand finally getting what theyve been asking for after such a Long time

Super Street Fighter 4 is a great example of developers listening to the gamers, and rewarding them for sticking around.

If you cannot grasp these simple concepts, then Super Street Fighter 4 is not the game for you, and the Street Fighter community would appreciate it if you did not even buy the game. You either love it, or you dont.

Also, for anyone ignorant enough to talk about the pricing and the fact that it isnt DLC for SF4(Which i wont even get into) All i can say is this: If you dont think its worth the money, then you arent a true fan, and as said before, the game isnt for you. Either that, or you are very uninformed and should head over to the SRK community and read up on all of the amazing things going on for SSF4.

I would EASILY spend $100+ on SSF4 Considering the fact that I play SF4 more then just about every other game i own(Cept for gears and CoD, look at my gamercard lol) and thats what i consider being worth the money. Not games that you pay full price for and beat in a week.

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Well said, Don!

I was wondering how this thread was still on the front page and made the correct assumption... people flaming about the price.

This game is being made for the die hard loyalists of the series. It is what the community has begged for over the last year. Capcom is giving us exactly what we want! When I first heard this game announced and the tons of features they were offering, I would have easily spent $60 if not more on the game. When I heard it was only $40 I thought I was getting a steal. All of the people flaming about the price don't really understand what they are getting. They just think or want 10 new characters to play with in their current SF4. This game is so much more than the 10 new characters.

Take Don's advice, head over to the SRK forum and see how crazy people can be about SF. $500 on a custom fight stick? Me personally, I drove 1.5 hours to spend full price on a TE fight because they were impossible to find at release and don't regret it for a second. I can't wait for April 27th!

#166 shinryu333

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 01:39 PM

^^^ agreed, even I wouldn't mind dishing out another $80 if they happen to pull of another limited edition before release date or pay another $150 for a newer design TE looking stick. only if I had the money. if your a fan, you'd support just like any other game genre/title that you really like. but as always, sometimes they do screw you and thats how life is

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 01:46 PM

I'm seriously hoping the new game lobbies will cut down on those attempts to join that are thwarted by someone who has joined first (game already full) or the lobbies that say "unable to connect"

#168 Lord_Kefka

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:36 PM

It's just a pet peeve, but it really irks me when someone uses the phrase "then you aren't a true fan". It only furthers the negative connotations of being a selective club and makes it unfriendly to new players.

I'm probably going to pick this game up for the first time when the Super edition releases. I won't be buying a fight stick. Do these things not make me a real fan? Because I've gotten beyond the days of having huge blocks of time or money to play games? Being 29, I can recall the days of spending hours in an arcade playing S.F. 2. when some of the young CAG's were teething on SNES controllers.

I won't be hardcore. Hell, I probably won't even be good. So if a community rejects me just for wanting to enjoy the same game then there is a good chance I won't support their game. And in the end, the companies behind the games want a BIG community (i.e. sales) versus an elite one.

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#169 Vcize

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:22 PM

I'm seriously hoping the new game lobbies will cut down on those attempts to join that are thwarted by someone who has joined first (game already full) or the lobbies that say "unable to connect"


The lobbies are the thing I'm most looking forward to about this game. I said before this game was announced that I would pay another 60 bucks for an exact replica of SF4 with 8-player lobbies added. The new characters, new stages, gameplay tweaks, new ultras, all the other changes, and the $40 price tag are all just icing on the cake for me.

These lobbies are going to be an absolute riot for us.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 03:25 PM

Clearly, some Street Fighter fans are capcom fanboys before cheapassgamers. Wouldn't matter if the game itself costed $100, or they actually did strip out characters and charge them as unlock keys, because there's always some weak-ass justification for them to hide behind.


Before I was saying those things I did about SF I was saying the same thing about Resident Evil 5, and I think that game sucks.

It's not about trying to defend something I like. It's about actually having some understanding of something before going on a 10 page rant about it. I have worked in the industry, and I really can't fathom what most people think the general process for making a video game is, but it's clear that it comes from some fantasy land.

I mean, this whole thing is analogous to some half-witted, frat boy football fan who sees a team that is trailing by 20 points drive down the field at the end of the game against prevent defense and score easily that says "WTF why didn't they just do that the whole game? It's so easy just line up 5-wide and throw it every time!". As someone that knows anything about football, it just makes you want to facepalm about how anyone could be so dense.

That is how game developers feel when listening to the consumers rant about this stuff when they clearly have no clue what the hell they're talking about.

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#171 Don illmatix

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:00 PM

It's just a pet peeve, but it really irks me when someone uses the phrase "then you aren't a true fan". It only furthers the negative connotations of being a selective club and makes it unfriendly to new players.

I'm probably going to pick this game up for the first time when the Super edition releases. I won't be buying a fight stick. Do these things not make me a real fan? Because I've gotten beyond the days of having huge blocks of time or money to play games? Being 29, I can recall the days of spending hours in an arcade playing S.F. 2. when some of the young CAG's were teething on SNES controllers.

I won't be hardcore. Hell, I probably won't even be good. So if a community rejects me just for wanting to enjoy the same game then there is a good chance I won't support their game. And in the end, the companies behind the games want a BIG community (i.e. sales) versus an elite one.

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Thats because you misinterpret. Super Street Fighter 4 is a game for the extreme Loyalists and the newer crowd that wants to join the fight, not people who played the first one, said it sucks because they put no time into it to practice, and then bash the new one's method of distribution along with questioning the quality of the game.

I can say that you are right about it being a "Club" of sorts, but if i had to put it any way, id say its a club where all you have to do is Love Street Fighter to get in. You'll find that the Street Fighter community is along the nicest community in just about any game. Being a newbie in street fighter doesnt make you any less of a true fan then anyone else, and most of the time, the better players will almost always offer help and practice with you to improve your game if you come across as a nice person.

Heck, even i'l play with you when you get the game if you'd Like. I Main Guile and Chun-li, and i play with a good amount of people. Add me if you wish and we can get some practicing in when you get the game(This is an open invite to anyone)
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#172 MoxManiac_

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:12 PM

The costume stuff is indeed BS, but just don't buy them then. They add little to the game anyways, and a lot of them look just plain stupid anyways.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:15 PM

Thats because you misinterpret. Super Street Fighter 4 is a game for the extreme Loyalists and the newer crowd that wants to join the fight, not people who played the first one, said it sucks because they put no time into it to practice, and then bash the new one's method of distribution along with questioning the quality of the game.

I can say that you are right about it being a "Club" of sorts, but if i had to put it any way, id say its a club where all you have to do is Love Street Fighter to get in. You'll find that the Street Fighter community is along the nicest community in just about any game. Being a newbie in street fighter doesnt make you any less of a true fan then anyone else, and most of the time, the better players will almost always offer help and practice with you to improve your game if you come across as a nice person.

Heck, even i'l play with you when you get the game if you'd Like. I Main Guile and Chun-li, and i play with a good amount of people. Add me if you wish and we can get some practicing in when you get the game(This is an open invite to anyone)


I struggle playing with Guile and Chun-Li, mainly because I cannot get the charge moves to work. In the Practice Arena, every time I try it, it won't work unless I do it from the far edge of the screen, but everyone knows it's suicide trying that in a fight. Any tips on charge attacks?

#174 kurrptsenate

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:18 PM

buff the charge notation, helps a lot

for combo'n into charge moves, you either aren't charging the move as long as required, or you have the timing wrong for the move right before hand. Honestly, charge moves are really the easiest ones in the game to perform consistently. It just takes practice getting the timing down

#175 Lord_Kefka

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:24 PM

Thats because you misinterpret. Super Street Fighter 4 is a game for the extreme Loyalists and the newer crowd that wants to join the fight, not people who played the first one, said it sucks because they put no time into it to practice, and then bash the new one's method of distribution along with questioning the quality of the game.

I can say that you are right about it being a "Club" of sorts, but if i had to put it any way, id say its a club where all you have to do is Love Street Fighter to get in. You'll find that the Street Fighter community is along the nicest community in just about any game. Being a newbie in street fighter doesnt make you any less of a true fan then anyone else, and most of the time, the better players will almost always offer help and practice with you to improve your game if you come across as a nice person.

Heck, even i'l play with you when you get the game if you'd Like. I Main Guile and Chun-li, and i play with a good amount of people. Add me if you wish and we can get some practicing in when you get the game(This is an open invite to anyone)


I'll have to take you up on that offer. I'll likely be pre-ordering this one from Amazon, so I'll be a SFIV first timer come April.

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#176 INMATEofARKHAM

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:45 PM

The costume stuff is indeed BS, but just don't buy them then. They add little to the game anyways, and a lot of them look just plain stupid anyways.

Well, that's really to each their own... I think it would be cool that those bought from the SFIV carried over to SSFIV. (It would be a nice gesture after all.)

And this is the part where I remind everyone that no one is forcing you to buy DLC. If you don't like it then don't buy it.

#177 SDC

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:47 PM

Well, that's really to each their own... I think it would be cool that those bought from the SFIV carried over to SSFIV. (It would be a nice gesture after all.)

And this is the part where I remind everyone that no one is forcing you to buy DLC. If you don't like it then don't buy it.


The costumes players bought for SFIV will carry over for SSFIV.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:51 PM

DLC costumes seem shady, but in the end they're just costumes. With that said, in the future I'd prefer if they did the thing where new copies of the game include a code for the costumes, while people with used copies have the option to buy them on the marketplace. At least that rewards the early adopters (or "true fans" if you wanna go that route).

#179 INMATEofARKHAM

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:52 PM

The costumes players bought for SFIV will carry over for SSFIV.

Awesome, I had look around for news on it but had no real luck finding any... :)

Anyhow, goes to show that, at the very least, and I mean LEAST, its not the horrible money grab that some are making it out to be.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 05:02 PM

For anyone giving Capcom shit about DLC, look no further than RE5 and their terrible excuse for a vs mode.

easily the worst $5 i've ever spent, and thats taking into account the fact that I bought a pack of Marlboros today