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#181 SDC

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 05:11 PM

Awesome, I had look around for news on it but had no real luck finding any... :)

Anyhow, goes to show that, at the very least, and I mean LEAST, its not the horrible money grab that some are making it out to be.


Note, of course, that there is a NEW set of costumes for players to buy. But yeah, the costumes people bought for SFIV will work in Super. Capcom may like money, but they aren't monsters.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 05:22 PM

It's just a pet peeve, but it really irks me when someone uses the phrase "then you aren't a true fan". It only furthers the negative connotations of being a selective club and makes it unfriendly to new players.

I'm probably going to pick this game up for the first time when the Super edition releases. I won't be buying a fight stick. Do these things not make me a real fan? Because I've gotten beyond the days of having huge blocks of time or money to play games? Being 29, I can recall the days of spending hours in an arcade playing S.F. 2. when some of the young CAG's were teething on SNES controllers.

I won't be hardcore. Hell, I probably won't even be good. So if a community rejects me just for wanting to enjoy the same game then there is a good chance I won't support their game. And in the end, the companies behind the games want a BIG community (i.e. sales) versus an elite one.

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I'm a huge SF fan, but I agree with you here. And for the love of god don't go over to SRK if you don't like being bombarded with elitist attitude, condescension, and a lot of idiocy. It's probably the most unwelcome place for a non-diehard fan or someone not interested in the game on a tournament level and teeming with "I'm better than you because I'm hardcore" attitude. There's plenty of great, helpful info and people, you just have to deal with a lot of people with the mentality of 10-year olds to find those.

If you cannot grasp these simple concepts, then Super Street Fighter 4 is not the game for you, and the Street Fighter community would appreciate it if you did not even buy the game. You either love it, or you dont.

This is exactly the (wrong) attitude that is keeping people from buying the game because they feel unwelcome and is only speaking for those who want it an exclusive club of hardcore players. The part I bolded is ridiculous. Seriously, encouraging people to NOT buy the game? The Street Fighter community needs people of all dedication levels to buy the game to keep the series afloat. If you enjoy the game, BUY IT. Measuring the level of other being a fan is stupid and furthers people's perception of it being an exclusive club where you're unwelcome if you're "casual."

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#183 Lord_Kefka

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 05:45 PM

To be fair, Don illmatix did respond to my post saying they have a welcoming community....just as long as you are positive. Since I haven't played, I can't say whether this is true or not, but I have to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'll be taking a shot at this come April.

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#184 Don illmatix

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 05:49 PM

I struggle playing with Guile and Chun-Li, mainly because I cannot get the charge moves to work. In the Practice Arena, every time I try it, it won't work unless I do it from the far edge of the screen, but everyone knows it's suicide trying that in a fight. Any tips on charge attacks?


Charging Down back will keep you stationary and will give you the option of either Flash kick/Spinning Bird Kick or Sonic Boom/Kikoken while keeping your block up. Always be charging no matter whats going on in the screen, and sometimes jabbing a few times will keep you from moving back while you charge and then throw the projectile.

heres a great guide on how to do them quickly

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#185 Don illmatix

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 05:51 PM

I'm a huge SF fan, but I agree with you here. And for the love of god don't go over to SRK if you don't like being bombarded with elitist attitude, condescension, and a lot of idiocy. It's probably the most unwelcome place for a non-diehard fan or someone not interested in the game on a tournament level and teeming with "I'm better than you because I'm hardcore" attitude. There's plenty of great, helpful info and people, you just have to deal with a lot of people with the mentality of 10-year olds to find those.


This is exactly the (wrong) attitude that is keeping people from buying the game because they feel unwelcome and is only speaking for those who want it an exclusive club of hardcore players. The part I bolded is ridiculous. Seriously, encouraging people to NOT buy the game? The Street Fighter community needs people of all dedication levels to buy the game to keep the series afloat. If you enjoy the game, BUY IT. Measuring the level of other being a fan is stupid and furthers people's perception of it being an exclusive club where you're unwelcome if you're "casual."


I stand by that statement. You can ask anyone that loves a game and its community, if youre going to buy a game just to bring youre negative energy to it, just dont. There are plenty other games to play.
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 06:55 PM

There are always going to be idiots mouthing off on forums, or during multiplayer. Don't let people like that ruin your enjoyment of SSF4, or any other game. Yes, SRK has tons of elitist snobs, but there are few better places to go if you really want to learn the ins and outs of a fighting game. But the idea that SSF4 is being made only for the most dedicated fans is ridiculous. Just look at how they are marketing it. Gamespot, IGN, Kotaku, etc, and similar, general video game blogs and sites run features and reveals for SSF4. These are not exactly go-to sites for die-hard fighting game fans. If SSF4 was only made for the 'hardcore' SF crowd then Capcom would only be doing interviews and reveals on SRK, Eventhubs, Iplaywinner, and other fighting game or Street Fighter-centric sites. And no matter what some might say, the more people who buy SSF4, the better. They wouldn't even be making SSF4 if SF4 didn't sell so well. And the reason it sold so well, was because SF4 was made to be friendly to new players who just want to have fun, as well as deep enough to satisfy fighting game enthusiasts.
Basically, if you like the game, or just want to try it out, don't let these elitists and/or morons ruin it for you. The online community of SF4 players has its fair share of assholes, just like every other game out there. But there are also plenty of people who will just be playing for the fun of it, win or lose.

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 07:42 PM

I've ran into more douche bag pricks on SF4 than any other game online. That didn't deter me from playing 7,500 matches online lol

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#188 phantasyx

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 08:16 PM

I wish there was a gameshark for the ps3 then you could easily unlock those costumes no problem (beings to jail break ps3)

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 08:49 PM

Its a shame that the alternate costumes are locked on the disc, as it would always be nice to get more for your money. I'm sure that it will go much like the SFIV alternate costumes, one play through of each and I won't give a fuckabout them anymore.

So either way, thank you for the gesture Amazon.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 03:15 AM

What all of you need to understand, is what Capcom's Seth Killian Said:

"If you didnt like SF4, Youre not gonna like SSF4"

Street Fighter 4 is a great example of Popular demand finally getting what theyve been asking for after such a Long time

Super Street Fighter 4 is a great example of developers listening to the gamers, and rewarding them for sticking around.

If you cannot grasp these simple concepts, then Super Street Fighter 4 is not the game for you, and the Street Fighter community would appreciate it if you did not even buy the game. You either love it, or you dont.

Also, for anyone ignorant enough to talk about the pricing and the fact that it isnt DLC for SF4(Which i wont even get into) All i can say is this: If you dont think its worth the money, then you arent a true fan, and as said before, the game isnt for you. Either that, or you are very uninformed and should head over to the SRK community and read up on all of the amazing things going on for SSF4.

I would EASILY spend $100+ on SSF4 Considering the fact that I play SF4 more then just about every other game i own(Cept for gears and CoD, look at my gamercard lol) and thats what i consider being worth the money. Not games that you pay full price for and beat in a week.

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Please listen to this man. His very essence embodies rightosity.

It's just a pet peeve, but it really irks me when someone uses the phrase "then you aren't a true fan". It only furthers the negative connotations of being a selective club and makes it unfriendly to new players.

I'm probably going to pick this game up for the first time when the Super edition releases. I won't be buying a fight stick. Do these things not make me a real fan? Because I've gotten beyond the days of having huge blocks of time or money to play games? Being 29, I can recall the days of spending hours in an arcade playing S.F. 2. when some of the young CAG's were teething on SNES controllers.

I won't be hardcore. Hell, I probably won't even be good. So if a community rejects me just for wanting to enjoy the same game then there is a good chance I won't support their game. And in the end, the companies behind the games want a BIG community (i.e. sales) versus an elite one.

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By all means, enjoy the game. SF fans want you to enjoy the same game they do I'm sure. They want new blood to train with, to give Capcom more money to put into the next game, to generate interest.. etc. What they (we) don't want is: people complaining about stupid shit. If you don't want the game.. don't buy it. This game is for true SF fans who have waited 10 years since the last real release of SF3.

#191 kurrptsenate

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 03:17 AM

I can say now that I finally have a TE stick, I can see me playing this one at least as much as SF4. I can't remember a game I played more since the first Soul Caliber for DC, and that wasn't even online

#192 Don illmatix

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 04:47 AM

There are always going to be idiots mouthing off on forums, or during multiplayer. Don't let people like that ruin your enjoyment of SSF4, or any other game. Yes, SRK has tons of elitist snobs, but there are few better places to go if you really want to learn the ins and outs of a fighting game. But the idea that SSF4 is being made only for the most dedicated fans is ridiculous. Just look at how they are marketing it. Gamespot, IGN, Kotaku, etc, and similar, general video game blogs and sites run features and reveals for SSF4. These are not exactly go-to sites for die-hard fighting game fans. If SSF4 was only made for the 'hardcore' SF crowd then Capcom would only be doing interviews and reveals on SRK, Eventhubs, Iplaywinner, and other fighting game or Street Fighter-centric sites. And no matter what some might say, the more people who buy SSF4, the better. They wouldn't even be making SSF4 if SF4 didn't sell so well. And the reason it sold so well, was because SF4 was made to be friendly to new players who just want to have fun, as well as deep enough to satisfy fighting game enthusiasts.
Basically, if you like the game, or just want to try it out, don't let these elitists and/or morons ruin it for you. The online community of SF4 players has its fair share of assholes, just like every other game out there. But there are also plenty of people who will just be playing for the fun of it, win or lose.


I think youre mistaken. SSF4 is a product of hardcore player feedback. Players whove played the game to death and see the cracks within the system along with ideas and ways to improve an already great game.

I see where you got mixed up tho, il say it again, the game isnt for the "Hardcore", its for the fans of the series. People who Like/Love street fighter no matter what their skill level may be. This game however isnt meant to draw out those that didnt like SF4.

I have ALOT of friends that LOVE SF4, and they are not really good at all...but yet i play with them all the time because they love SF and they just enjoy the game. So of course theyre going to market it that way, for everyone. But the fact of the matter is, SSF4 is first and foremost balancing out the playing field for High Level Play, while maintaining the easy to pick up characteristic that Street Fighter is Famous for. Id say its for the gamers, from the gamers.

I also personally think that there are going to be alot of people(Myself including) thats going to get this game on Both Platforms. Buying the game twice is something im going to do for both selfish and supportive reasons. I own a Fightstick for both consoles and i have friends that play SF4 on both consoles, plus i would like to support capcom on the release of this game. I could be wrong on the amount of people who are gonna do this, but im optimistic lol
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#193 PhrostByte

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 07:11 AM

Agreed on both counts. I'll be getting it for both platforms and will be accepting all challengers.

#194 lolwhat

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 07:20 AM

Wished my RL friends were into fighting games :cry:

#195 RelentlessRolento

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 07:45 AM

hmmm need to get my PS3 fixed before this releases.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 07:53 AM

hmmm need to get my PS3 fixed before this releases.


Just get it for Xbox along with that 12-month code. :]

#197 wastedyears

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 09:29 AM

What Capcom is trying to do, I think, is trying hard to sell it to the non-SF crowd more than anything else. I knew I was going to buy SSF4 from the moment I heard that they were going to release SSF4, and I know I'm not the only one. Far from it. Capcom knows this, so they don't need to push as hard to get people like us to buy it. What they want to do, is get more casuals and first time players to become hardcore fans. I think that is why they are having features like the replay channel, where you can d/l and watch other peoples matches, so new blood can see how different SF plays when people actually know what they are doing, instead of just mashing buttons and/or flowcharting. At the same time, this is one of the things I'm most interested in, and I've been playing SF since the original SF2 hit arcades. I can sit and watch high level matches for hours at a time. Obviously they are listening to feedback and fixing some of the problems of SF4. Looking at the feature list, you can tell that Capcom is really catering to the hardcore SF player, but they are SELLING it to the casual, because they already know most of the hardcore crowd will buy it. But at the end of the day, it benefits all SF players to have as many people buy the game as possible, not just the die-hard fans. Otherwise, we'll go back to the way it was with 3S, where the game will have a very, very hardcore following, and a new SF game released once every ten years.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 09:43 AM

I knew I was going to buy SSF4 from the moment I heard that they were going to release SSF4, and I know I'm not the only one.


I'll be honest. I wasn't. I was a bit shocked at how soon it was announced and wondering why it wasn't just coming as DLC but it wasn't long before I was won over. (The price point, why it needed a disc, etc. all made sense to me.)

Wished my RL friends were into fighting games :cry:


Bah, who needs them when you have broadband... ;)

#199 Cheska19

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:15 AM

$36.99 price point, prime shipping and unlockable codes? Unless BB or GS have better offers, Amazon will be getting my money.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 11:29 AM

no release date delivery tho :(

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 11:46 AM

no release date delivery tho :(


Still way early... Amazon doesn't like to offer RDD till they know they can make it happen.

#202 greyzieoriental

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 12:41 PM

Not sure what you were trying to ask.

Yes, Old costumes from SFIV will be available for use in SSFIV.
The bonus for pre-ordering is not having to pay for one of the new packs available for SSFIV.
They are not exclusive, just free for pre-orders. So you save on one of the packs.

Now what you want to do is wait for them to release the super bundle costume pack so you get a discount. If it's like SFIV this will come after you purchased all the other DLC costumes already.

However, What we do want is this: http://iplaywinner.c...om-special.html

If this is a Japan exclusive, I hope I get to see it one day.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 12:45 PM

that's kind of a neat idea I suppose, but I suppose it helps newcomers more than people that played the old a lot. most figured out the hard trials fairly easily, it was just a matter of getting consistent with em. the only interesting one, for me personally, would be c. viper, but I didnt see her on the list.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 12:50 PM

DLC costumes seem shady, but in the end they're just costumes. With that said, in the future I'd prefer if they did the thing where new copies of the game include a code for the costumes, while people with used copies have the option to buy them on the marketplace. At least that rewards the early adopters (or "true fans" if you wanna go that route).


Costumes are just that, Costumes. They don't do anything to give you an advantage over another player, they don't make you invincible, they simply change your look. I played the game for hundreds of hours last year. A $10 pack to change the look was a welcomed changed and a way to support a game I love and my thanks to Capcom for making SF4.

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 12:53 PM

I think the only valid point in complaining about paying for any of these costumes is that they are already on the disc. Capcom has them on the disc so anybody who plays with you online can see if you bought the new costumes or not.

I'm just hoping that this trailer is accurate and we will actually have three costumes right out the gate.

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#206 wasurenai

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 01:03 PM

I think the only valid point in complaining about paying for any of these costumes is that they are already on the disc.


This. I don't mind DLC if it's downloadable content. Paying for something I already paid for is ridiculous.

#207 kurrptsenate

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 01:14 PM

considering the game is only $40, it doesn't bother me at all. Beautiful Katamari was infinitely worse for locking content and charging you a bunch to get the full game experience

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 01:21 PM

dang game comes out same day as fifa world cup will probably pass

#209 phantasyx

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 01:06 AM

oooo rival battles I love thoses, whenever you want to buy 2 copies of a game you know its gotta be good!

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 01:16 AM

This. I don't mind DLC if it's downloadable content. Paying for something I already paid for is ridiculous.


But you didnt already pay for it. Sure its on the disc, but you dont have the rights to use them unless you buy the key to unlock them. Does it really make a difference if you buy a key to unlock something on a disc, or if you buy the full DLC and download it to your hard drive? Hell no. Either way you have to pay for it.

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