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CAGcast #190: World of Duty


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#121 mowmow

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 11:57 PM

great show i listened to your spoilers version of me2 and that made me want to give the original ME another chance so then i could play ME 2 right after

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#122 mrangrypants

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 12:26 AM

Well, I made the statement based on Cheapy asking why pre-orders were so low. I am aware how popular the previous GOW's are I believe that Sony failed to capitalize on that by waiting so long to release a next generation of game. I don't think I said anything particularly outlandish or controversial. I am not going to talk about DRM again, because no matter what I say people only hear what they want.

P.S. Having Shippy on the show was my idea. I am glad he is there, except for when he drops the ball and doesn’t correct me when I make mistakes about release dates.


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#123 rick1000

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 12:56 AM

Good show Still think you need the cags on news theam song

#124 CheapyD

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 12:59 AM

I think it's awesome that you were on Cold Pizza. Is there a Youtube clip of that anywhere? I would enjoy watching that.


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#125 Nameeater

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 01:49 AM

Another excellent cagcast, the ME2 discussion was great. _b

Always sweet to find a cagcast waiting in your rss reader in the morning.

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#126 strife18

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 02:05 AM

You guys touched on the non-disaster that was the PSN thing. It wasn't so much that you didn't get to play for a day, I mean I don't need to play every day. It was just that if you hadn't synced and backup your trophies just before then, you would have lost them. I know trophies are just a showoff thing, but it was a big deal for alot of people, especially if you hit a milestone late in a game which you couldn't go back and re-do. In longer games that could mean having to restart a save file and replay 10-50 hrs of gamepplay to get the trophy again (Star ocean and other rpgs can take that much to get some trophies).
Then again, it goes back to the whole, trophies are just show-things that don't mean much. But its nice that if you achieved something in the game to at least have it, or if your working toward platinum.
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#127 Walt Jay

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 02:15 AM

^^ Holy crap....how much did you weight back then, Cheapy?!? 180lbs?
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#128 liberaltugboat

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 02:47 AM

I just want to say that as someone who pays for the products they use, I really agree with Wombats stance on pirating games.
Also, when you guys go off an a completely unrelated topic because you don't really know much about the things on your outline (like the part about the baseball games) you bring up some of the best conversational pieces. Keep it up!
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#129 CommieNinja7

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 03:01 AM

Finally some Mass Effect 2 talk! Just wondering, who had Wrex alive or not? I dont know what happeneds to him if he is alive

#130 Kushieda

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 03:03 AM

Straight after listening to this CAGcast I tuned into the Joystiq podcast. Listening in on their spoiler cast, I think I'm in the same boat that Cheapy is in now.
Certainly agree with Shipwreck about knowing the killer will significantly reduce the experience of Heavy Rain.

#131 Microshock

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 03:29 AM

The biggest downfall of story driven games like that is that douchebags on the internet will go out of their way to spoil it.

I remember someone writing to me the killer the first day the game came out but i thought it was a lie. Then when i actually found out on JTV, it kind of took away all of the surprise.

#132 Jrittmayer

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 04:46 AM

Great episode, I enjoyed your Mass Effect round table even though I have never played it, I might actually go play the first one now since its cheap.

Oh and thank god for banning that guy who tried to spoil Heavy Rain, I'm trying to avoid spoilers for that game as much as possible...

#133 AshesofWake

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 04:46 AM

your guys' Mass Effect 2 discussion was waaaay too tame I felt. shoulda went all out and discussed the story some more rather than the significance of the genre or gameplay, you guys could have done that during the show. overall ok show.

THOUGH i do have one more complaint, the story about the PS3 not working and the whole activision thing. I would like you guys to give a brief summary of what happened in a news story. When i was listening i had no idea what the hell was going on only through inferences in your discussion. You have to remember some of us dont get a chance to read the blogs and what not and might not have a clear or even any understanding of the subject. It would be nice to just give a quick brief of the article before discussing it. that's all. thanksies.
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#134 Super_Cholo

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 05:24 AM

Good show guys.

Releasing GoW 2 on the PS2 was a smart move as it kept the ps2 moving for quite some time. GoW3 should have been released on the day the ps3 released as it would have improved sales as well as keep the franchise going. As wombat said, waiting this long killed the franchise to a certain degree. Even somone with limited knowledge of sales would know.

As for kings quest... How can you blame Activision for what they did? If you are that upset over it, you might as well quit playing games now. If you owned The ip and someone was making a sequel what would you do? If you would do nothing, then your a moron. You would be out of business in a heartbeat and so would every other publisher out there.

You can bitch if a new game comes out and it sucks, but not when some whiny fans start wetting their diapers because they don't get what they want.
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#135 EnchantedEcho

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 06:54 AM

Good show, I agree with Wombat the GoW franchise has been handled pretty badly in my opinion. Looking forward to next weeks episode.

#136 Josh5890

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 06:57 AM

First time I've ever heard one of your podcasts. Great stuff. Definately gonna listen to some older ones.

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#137 progman3

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 07:00 AM

In ref to the PS3 downtime, as soon as CheapyD said let's play a game, I really thought he was going to play the CAG edition of "Are you smarter than a Playstation?" and ask each co-host what years were leap years.

Wombat, excellent Black Manta impression! Cheapy does a fine Jerry Seinfeld. ShipWreck MUST be holding out on us... come on ShipWreck, give us some kind of impersonation!!
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#138 3up3down

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 08:40 AM

Wombat is correct though. If GOW 3 would have come out right away on PS3 showcasing their great graphics, they might not be in the mess they are now.

#139 Joda84

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 01:50 PM

I never really thought about Sony not building up God of War the way they could have. They could have gotten more sales, but I agree with others that only being on the 4th game could be better than us being on #8.

The show works great with the three of you guys together, but Wombat... Do us a favor and calm down on some of the dbagnessnessness. You were a bit annoying at the start of the show. Other than that, great show as usual.



#140 JustAim

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 04:23 PM

you guys make my workday so much easier

#141 evanom

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 05:37 PM

Hi guys, I want to thank you all for this podcast, it has entertained me for along time now.

Anyway Cheapy thank you for talking about good places to eat in Tokyo, I was recently in Japan with my fiance who didn't know much about Tokyo, so I checked some old shows and got a few good places.

Wombat about the Batman question from last week I was recently talking with some friends and came to the conclusion that Cataclysm Gotham City would be a good place to set the game in, I was wondering what do you think?

And Ship how much of your transformer collection have you replaced from when they were stolen?

#142 notworksafe

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 06:11 PM

I think Jason Rubin is full of crap when he says that people can't go to new studios and get handed a lot of money to make a game.

Isn't that basically what happened to the Infinity Ward guys once already? They made Medal of Honor, then took off and made Call of Duty. I believe that's what happened to the Dead Space guys too. They left Visceral to create Sledgehammer and now they're working on a Call of Duty game.

#143 Stew101

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 06:17 PM

Hey guys keep it up! Great cagcast. I usually listen during school. Shhhh don't tell

#144 DragoonKnight

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 07:08 PM

Good show guys. I'm gonna be completely honest. Before I knew what CheapyD looked like I thought he was Sundance DiGiovanni. I used to watch Cold Pizza and see a bald (shaved) guy talking about video games, then I listened to the CAGcast and heard Cheapy say he had been on Cold Pizza before and that he was a bald white guy. It was certainly confusing.

#145 Iron Past

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 07:50 PM

Hey guys, a quick comment on the broadband stuff; aside from it being expensive, it's also not nearly as penetrated as you might think. I'm not in the city limits, but I am about thirty minutes from downtown San Antonio (one of the biggest cities in the US), and it's not available here. Whenever I call Verizon and ask about it, they tell me they have absolutely no plans to upgrade the lines; even the schools and businesses don't have access to broadband.

It kind of annoys me that so many companies just assume a high-speed connection exists, and my reentry into PC gaming continually gets put on the backburner because of it, but it has led me to explore all the nooks and crannies in the console DRM. BTW, you don't have to be online to load a game with DLC extras from Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age, like I've seen so many people try to say; it works just fine offline, after you've downloaded it.

#146 Curufinwe

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 09:33 PM

It's a bit late now, but I'll try and answer Wombat's (possibly rhetorical) question as to why Ubisoft even made a PC version of Assassin's Creed 2.

I think PC ports of console games like AC 2 can be worthwhile for companies, even if they sell a lot less than they do on the 360 or PS3. And by worthwhile, I mean cover the cost of development and cover the opportunity cost of the next best alternative.

To pluck figures out of the air, let's assume making a PC version of AC 2 based on the already developed 360 version cost Ubisoft $10 million. To make an 100% return on that investment, they only need to make $20 million in revenue from the PC version.

Ubisoft is charging $60 for AC 2 at launch, but that price will only go down. At an average selling price of $50, the game would only have to sell 400,000 copies to make that $20 million. And Ubisfot will have a very good idea of how many copies AC 2 will sell on the PC because of their sales data for the first Assassin's Creed.

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#147 Zombie_Killer

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 10:37 PM

Great podcast doods.

#148 rogueweapon

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 11:31 PM

I'm actually saving this episode to listen to the ME2 discussion when I'm done with the game. Which space ho did Ship, Wombat, and Cheapy bang again? I skipped that part of the episode to avoid spoilers.
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#149 retromufc

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 11:32 PM

Great podcast and I really enjoys Wombat's take on gaming. I completely agree with him on the way God of War has been handled by Sony. This should be a flagship AAA title and you would think you would hear more about it,

I mean look at the Halo games, like what MS is doing with Halo Reach now. It seems that every site has it as the hot thing and you hear so much about it everywhere yet GoW3 there doesn't seem to be much hype. Sure you may see it at Gamestop but when a Halo game comes out it is everywhere. There are tie-ins galore but I just don't see that with GoW3. I live in Eastern NC and here I can't think of anywhere I have seen of heard about this game besides online sites.

These Sony shills here can bitch all you want but this fact. It is just not handled as mainstream as it should be. Personally I think the previous GoW games blow any of the Halo games out of the water in terms of fun factor, story, and gameplay so I am amazed at the lack of marketing.

And some guy here posted that all previous GoW games together have sold 8 million copies. For a AAA flagship series like GoW that is nothing. Both Halo 2 and 3 each sold more than the entire GoW series combined according to vgchartz.com. To me that is an absolute travesty and a clear sign that Sony's marketing is faltering at this.

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 11:37 PM

I lost all faith in shipwreck with his high praise for "Tribes" (Halo: Reach), when it looks good but not out of this world as he makes it seem to be.

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Can't wait for the next Uncharted and Halo on my next-gen systems!