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#5521 GizmoGC

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:53 PM

Wii =/= Wii U.

Either most people don't know about the Wii U or they think it's a ~$100 controller add-on to the Wii. The only people who are going to buy it day 1 are scalpers and fanboys.


Doubtful.

http://wiiudaily.com...-more-than-wii/

But how does the current pre-order success compare to the original Wii, which is the best selling home console in Nintendo’s history? Wii U Daily spoke to half a dozen game retailers across California, some independent establishments and some which were part of larger chains. Every single one of them reported that the Wii U currently has more pre-orders than the original Wii back in 2006.

One retailer in Los Angeles told us that Wii U pre-orders are about 3:1 compared to the Wii, while others are seeing anywhere from 50 to 100 percent increase in pre-orders for the new console compared to the old. This isn’t that big of a surprise, actually, since the Wii was a new phenomenon back in 2006. Today, “Wii” is an established brand, and its easy to see the Wii U attract more pre-orders than the original console. Even if it’s highly unlikely that the Wii U will surpass the Wii in terms of total sales.

When the Wii launched back in 2006, it was sold out for many months to come. If the Wii U is already getting more pre-orders, we’re likely to see shortages and sell outs once it hits the stores. Analyst Michael Pachter recently said that he too believes the Wii U will sell out until next year, despite Nintendo manufacturing “1 million Wii U consoles per month”.



#5522 maximumzero

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:53 PM

Hmmm I would preorder from Dell but the real question is does it come with the Pro Controller? It is shown in the images but doesn't show that its included.


I highly doubt it. It's not noted in any of the descriptions so Dell probably just uploaded a group of images from Nintendo's press site.

#5523 GizmoGC

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:53 PM

I'm very curious what will happen on Sunday. I don't feel the press, ads or buzz is as high as expected.


Nintendo didn't do too many ads for the Wii either. With the current buzz, they don't really need to.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:54 PM

Most people don't have extra External HDs laying around. Most people would rather not have it hooked up to the back of their Wii U.

Why are you trying to spice of the Base unit? It's not worth saving $50.


I'm personally hoping that the Wii U supports multiple storage devices. I'll drop a 32gb card in the SD slot and plug a couple of USB thumbdrives in the back. No one will ever see the back of the console in my entertainment system and it won't add any bulk. Plus, I've already got all this stuff laying around.

#5525 maximumzero

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:54 PM

Doubtful.

http://wiiudaily.com...-more-than-wii/


Keep in mind that more retailers were offering Pre-Orders this time as well.

Historically I don't think Wal-Mart has ever done Pre-Orders, for instance.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:54 PM

Does anyone think there will be people outside Gamestop hoping to get one that didn't pre-order? I have an extra Basic one and am considering seeing if I can just get someone to buy me a copy of Black Ops 2 and I'll give them my pre-order. I figure that's not too greedy, just $35 above cost really.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:56 PM

Does anyone think there will be people outside Gamestop hoping to get one that didn't pre-order? I have an extra Basic one and am considering seeing if I can just get someone to buy me a copy of Black Ops 2 and I'll give them my pre-order. I figure that's not too greedy, just $35 above cost really.


There might be, but if they know that there is a list then they'd know that Gamestop is just going to start working down the list if they get any extras.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:07 PM

I'm personally hoping that the Wii U supports multiple storage devices. I'll drop a 32gb card in the SD slot and plug a couple of USB thumbdrives in the back. No one will ever see the back of the console in my entertainment system and it won't add any bulk. Plus, I've already got all this stuff laying around.

SD cards are only for the wii function. This was confirmed that you will need an external usb memory storage for anything WII U related.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:09 PM

Hmm...I have ZombiU pre-ordered and paid off, but if the reviews are bad I will switch it over to Black Ops 2. I really hope the reviews are at least in the 70-75 range, the Wii U could greatly benefit from having a good, mature, word-of-mouth exclusive.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:11 PM

Does anyone think there will be people outside Gamestop hoping to get one that didn't pre-order? I have an extra Basic one and am considering seeing if I can just get someone to buy me a copy of Black Ops 2 and I'll give them my pre-order. I figure that's not too greedy, just $35 above cost really.


That is my dilemma. I did not pre-order, and I currently am not on the list at Gamestop. I would like to get the Deluxe system at Gamestop on Sunday since I have the credit to cover it. I have five Gamestops all within 5 miles of me so it is hard to choose which one to try.

I took vacation all week for Thanksgiving so it would be perfect timing as well. Oh well. I slept on it and I will just be patient and wait.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:27 PM

If I knew for certain I was coming home empty handed on Sunday I'd order one and just sell off the two games.


That's what I'm doing. I ordered it from Dell and I'll just sell the two games. Even at a $10-$15 loss per game, it's worth it to not have to hassle with finding a deluxe model on Sunday in store.

#5532 jacknicklson

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:31 PM

This is ridiculous
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3GB usable space for bastard white model
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:33 PM

SD cards are only for the wii function. This was confirmed that you will need an external usb memory storage for anything WII U related.


That actually isn't true according to ign in there article what they have learned so far about the wii u hands on it handles sdhc cards up to 32gb. Using sd cards is also how you transfer information from your wii to your wii u.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:33 PM

SD cards are only for the wii function. This was confirmed that you will need an external usb memory storage for anything WII U related.


I wonder then if you can just use one of those usb sd card readers for a smaller amount of external storage? I know I have a bunch of 16 and 32 gb sd cards laying around unused.

#5535 sensuitomo

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:38 PM

That actually isn't true according to ign in there article what they have learned so far about the wii u hands on it handles sdhc cards up to 32gb. Using sd cards is also how you transfer information from your wii to your wii u.

did you see the new nintendo direct? you can not put wiiU stuff into the SD cards, it only serves as a way to transfer the wii stuff for BC and use for the wii mode. The only way add memory at the moment is buy using an external memory source via USB. go search neogaf if you dont believe me for info that we have been receiving since that nintendo direct.
here is the link for info http://www.neogaf.co...ad.php?t=499761

#5536 maximumzero

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:39 PM

This is ridiculous

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3GB usable space for bastard white model


It's a shame you can't plug in a hard drive or anything.

#5537 Nintendonly

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:39 PM

Hmm...I have ZombiU pre-ordered and paid off, but if the reviews are bad I will switch it over to Black Ops 2. I really hope the reviews are at least in the 70-75 range, the Wii U could greatly benefit from having a good, mature, word-of-mouth exclusive.


So you are only buying it because it's exclusive? I hate to break it to you, but this is Ubisoft we're talking about here. Just like with Rayman Legends, it's not going to remain exclusive.

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#5538 defpally

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:41 PM

I hate when they bundle it with games most people would never buy together hah


Actually Madden and Just Dance are games most people would buy. Don't get too caught up in the gamer mindset given that we aren't "most people", I'm not a fan of either of them either - but you have to recognize that both of those games are HUGE sellers to the average consumer. There are a lot people that buy a console and the only game they pick up each year is Madden and maybe Call of Duty. In the end, it is these people that determine the success or failure of a console. The Dreamcast was fantastic - and most "gamers" knew this, but Sega could never convince the average buyer it was worthwhile. The Wii exploded not because of us gamers, it took off because everyone and their grandmother wanted to play "that cool bowling game" like my mom (a big non-gamer) did.

That is a great bundle to the average person. You get a fun dance game for the kids and Dad gets Madden. Whether a system has Madden is make or break for a lot of people.

#5539 jacknicklson

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:44 PM

It's a shame you can't plug in a hard drive or anything.


You can't, that feature is for pre-orders only
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#5540 defpally

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:51 PM

Doubtful.

http://wiiudaily.com...-more-than-wii/


Comparing Wii U pre-sales to Wii isn't a very good analogy. Back then, not as many stores did pre-sales, mostly just gaming stores. I pre-ordered mine at Gamestop, and while it was popular, it really was surprising when it took off like it did - they didn't even seel out their pre-orders in a major mall location. I get the feeling a good bit of the demand is speculation. If people had known the Wii would have taken off, it would have been pre-sold like crazy.

That's not to say the Wii U won't be popular. I just think the Wii pre-sales numbers were a victim of being a follow up to the Gamecube (which I loved, but wasn't a blockbuster) and motion control was still a bit of an unknown. A direct numbers comparison doesn't really consider this.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:57 PM

So you are only buying it because it's exclusive? I hate to break it to you, but this is Ubisoft we're talking about here. Just like with Rayman Legends, it's not going to remain exclusive.


Well, they will be exclusive, in a way. Both those games utilize the Gamepad extensively in ways that would be tough to implement on other consoles. Rayman would lose most of its unique new features and become a by the numbers new level pack sequel to Origins.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:01 PM

i went in yesterday to try that and no luck


I tried this last night after finding out my TRU oversold so many pre-orders. My Walmart said they were no longer taking the pre-orders on the first of November.

Thanks for the replies guys, i guess i will try to hunt one down sunday at 12:01am at walmart or try my luck at my local kmart when they open sunday.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:18 PM

I would be sure to check each individual store to see what is going on with the launch. I've seen several posts about the number of consoles that will be available from Best Buy, but my local store said they would only get in the number to cover preorders and get an other shipment 1-3 weeks later. The local Walmart told me they expected about 75 consoles and that I should have no problem getting one when they start selling (i'ts a 24 hour Walmart). The Target that I got my preorder card at last Friday (and a preorder card for 2 friends -- all the deluxe model) said they didn't know how many they were expecting, but that the preorders would be pulled aside immediately and held for 7 days. He also said that the way the launches usually go, the consoles were probably already at the store but couldn't be brought out until the 18th.

#5544 Nintendonly

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:46 PM

I like how people on GAF don't believe that the Wii had a fake shortage to drive up demand. I work in retail, and I know for a fact that retailers would hold stock of Wiis for weeks to prepare for a flyer. Circuit City was even ousted for doing it. I think this very site figured it out, too.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:53 PM

I like how people on GAF don't believe that the Wii had a fake shortage to drive up demand. I work in retail, and I know for a fact that retailers would hold stock of Wiis for weeks to prepare for a flyer. Circuit City was even ousted for doing it. I think this very site figured it out, too.


It wasn't a "Fake" shortage. No one is going to keep money off the table to drive up demand. That isn't how a company runs. When was the last time a new console launched and wasn't hard to find other than the $600 PS3? Retailers may hold back consoles for an ad, only because they are required by law to have items for sale that are in the ad. Ads are created usually around 3-4 weeks in advance. Lots of other products get held back for an ad set, but guess what, they also still have the item on the shelf for purchase currently as well.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:55 PM

I am torn. I did not pre-order a Wii-U but now I find myself wanting to buy one. I am thinking about ordering the bundle from Dell as I want the black Wii-U. I do not really want either game that comes with it, but I might save money when factoring in the gas and time that I will waste searching for one. I would just line up at WalMart at midnight but I am going to be at the WVU-OU football game that will not end until after 10:30 pm. Getting out of the stadium and city will put my arrival at WalMart just at midnight or a little later.

What do you guys think? Should I go ahead and order the bundle from Dell or chance finding one Sunday morning at KMart, Target, ect.?

#5547 jacknicklson

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:57 PM

You will prob lose about $40 selling those games so I'd say that is worth not having to brave the crowds Sunday
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:59 PM

Retailers may hold back consoles for an ad, only because they are required by law to have items for sale that are in the ad.


That is false. It is not against the law to not have a product that is listed in an ad. If there was a statement that said "GUARANTEED IN STOCK" and they didn't have it in stock, then that would be against the law.

Also, my store would receive Wiis SEVERAL WEEKS before a flyer, yet we weren't allowed to sell them. Several weeks is a long time to be sitting on stock that could sell.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:59 PM

I like how people on GAF don't believe that the Wii had a fake shortage to drive up demand. I work in retail, and I know for a fact that retailers would hold stock of Wiis for weeks to prepare for a flyer. Circuit City was even ousted for doing it. I think this very site figured it out, too.


You're right and wrong. You're right that retailers would hold their Wii U stock for an ad. You're wrong that it was a fake shortage, because these sold out instantly. If they were on the shelves and not held, they would have sold out instantly. Stores did this so they could drive more people into their stores by advertising they were going to have a product and so people would have a fair shot at getting them, but in no way did this create an artificial shortage. It just meant that people had to wait for Sunday to buy their console instead of getting lucky and walking in as they were getting deliveries.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:01 PM

you think Nintendo doesn't want to sell wii u games this holiday season? it makes no sense for them to hold units back on purpose.