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#3271 Morphx2

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 08:27 PM

She is not broken

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:06 PM

Started playing a few co-ops again, because I heard they were putting that Bunnygirl Riven skin. Turns out it's there now, and I might just be stupid enough to buy it and use it for a co-op game every other week.


So how do you all play Riven anyways?
Is her skill priority still supposed to be
Q (at lvl 1), R > W > E > Q


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#3273 icedrake523

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 11:03 PM

I got Riven. Granted I'm still learning her but I laned against a Yorick and it was insanely hard to push him out of the lane. Tryndamere was also tough. Try to 1v1 pre-6 him and he'll just dash away. Forget about it after 6, he'll dive you with that BS. Those 2 games I ended up losing b/c of my team. Another game I fell behind GP early since I tried to get a kill but got too low and had to recall. Just farmed but kicked ass in teamfights.

I was doing Q first, then R > E > Q > W. I think the shield is better early on since it doesn't block as much late game.

#3274 luxuria

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:19 PM

I'm hoping Riven goes on sale soon. She was pretty fun when I tried her. I'm still trying to master Rumble and man, he is ridiculous. Danger Zone Flamethrower too stronk. I still kind of prefer Vlad or Swain top, though. Oh, I did a match last night as AS Lulu in top lane against a GP and I can see how stupid he (GP) is. Of course, once I had my Madred's and Wits End he couldn't take me. She is ridiculous. I personally love supporting as her but so many people don't understand what she can do bot lane so I usually get bitched at for not using my magic nuke or non-existent heal. >>

Did anyone watch the tournament this weekend by the way? Freaking crazy. :o

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:57 PM

I'm hoping Riven goes on sale soon. She was pretty fun when I tried her. I'm still trying to master Rumble and man, he is ridiculous. Danger Zone Flamethrower too stronk. I still kind of prefer Vlad or Swain top, though. Oh, I did a match last night as AS Lulu in top lane against a GP and I can see how stupid he (GP) is. Of course, once I had my Madred's and Wits End he couldn't take me. She is ridiculous. I personally love supporting as her but so many people don't understand what she can do bot lane so I usually get bitched at for not using my magic nuke or non-existent heal. >>

Did anyone watch the tournament this weekend by the way? Freaking crazy. :o


I'm pretty sure they ninja buffed Rumbles flame thrower. I used to play him a lot when he came out because he was really strong. Then they nerfed the flamethrower so I stopped. I played against a Rumble top the other day and the flamethrower was back to doing ridiculous amounts of damage again.

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#3276 icedrake523

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:13 PM

if you leave, its a loss!

Yep, counted as a loss. Which is weird since I left a game last year when I had to run an errand and it didn't count as a loss, just a leave.

#3277 crystalklear64

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 04:38 AM

last game of the evening was hilarious and the only win.

our team was...
jungle trundle - zinrae
jungle warwick- me
jungle shaco- pub
soraka- pub
mordekaiser- pub

i laned with soraka against lulu and ashe and there was literally nothing they could do. too much sustain with soraka healing me, i'd just run up and take chunks out of them when i felt like it.

mid, morde stomped a poor kennen and had the turret down in 4 mins.

solo top, zinrae as trundle took on malphite and was pretty much even lane.

in the jungle we had shaco vs a jungle urgot.

with 3 junglers on our team we would trade off in our jungle and taking their jungle as well. they got rolled in every lane AND jungle. i would have hated to face this team and it was no surprise when they surrendered at 20.

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#3278 Sir_Fragalot

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:28 PM

Had a pretty hilarious game last night. It was me and 3 friends, and a pub jax. This jax spend the whole game bitching as us, calling us feeders yet he was the one when the enemy team had two of our inhibs down, rushed out, got ganked by 4 of them and bitched that we are not pushing :lol:. He also had the most deaths because he would run out and then get killed. Yet bitch at us for sucking.

Also I was jungle nocturne, and at about level two he had two low champs up top close to our tower, so I was going up to try for a gank because I was at about golems and he was like WTF are you doing. :lol:
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#3279 icedrake523

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:36 PM

Waughoo, do you remember when we'd lane together as Nasus and Kat? I miss that. I think the last time we laned together you were Kat and I was Galio and had that aweome ult at the end that got us an ace with all those AoE ults.

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:45 PM

Waughoo, do you remember when we'd lane together as Nasus and Kat? I miss that. I think the last time we laned together you were Kat and I was Galio and had that aweome ult at the end that got us an ace with all those AoE ults.


My friends and I usually like trying weird combos like that out, but pubbers flip out when you break the dumb meta the game has been stuck in for awhile now. Immediately shouting "REPORT" in all chat because we didn't go your boring healer/ranged AD bot. Only time that shit is acceptable to them is right after they saw someone stream it.

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#3281 kaiyouske

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:55 PM

Finally, a good streak of games.

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#3282 PrinnyOtaku

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:02 PM

Meanwhile, I've dropped from +35 to +22 in the lats 5 days. Fuck this game. So badly.

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#3283 Waughoo

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:43 PM

I used to be like +15 games or so, then I had a bad losing streak, followed by a short winning streak, then another losing streak. Now I'm like -7 or something >.<
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#3284 luxuria

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:45 PM

Lol. Wish I had a win streak like that. It seems I always get stuck with trolls and people who refuse to communicate. Oh, and not counter-pick as well. Tryn vs an enemy Rumble? SURE, BRO.

Also, Akali is so stupid when she gets to level 6 and has 1-2 kills. Dat ulti. x.x She's fun though.

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#3285 PrinnyOtaku

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:54 PM

I don't know what it is, maybe PAX East or IPL but it seems like the idiots have come out of the woodworks in the last week or two. Queues every day, random lag spikes. Insta-lock pros and people who refuse to use chat even when spoken to.

Riot's booth at PAX was filled with people who bandwagon onto the eSports team. Some guys asked his friends who was playing on the stream, and he replies "oh it's SoloMid versus vB. I have no idea who the Fuck vB is."

Uneducated people cheering and rooting the most stupid shit. Every time Dyrus used Reckless Swing the crowd was like "woahhhhhhh".

And there was this asshole who kept yelling at some Riot employee that he'd pay her $20 for a Pax Jax skin. Oh god the "community" of this game -.-

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#3286 Waughoo

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:56 PM

Waughoo, do you remember when we'd lane together as Nasus and Kat? I miss that. I think the last time we laned together you were Kat and I was Galio and had that aweome ult at the end that got us an ace with all those AoE ults.




It's too hard to run Kat anymore. I saw a post awhile ago where something like 70% of the champs now have at least one way to stop her ult. If not that then they either have a escape skill or flash. Basically now you either have to just jump in and pray the other team doesnt react to you quickly enough, or stay out of the fight and wait for all the CC to get blown while basically leaving your team is in a 4v5.

If we get some games going with some of our low level CAGers here on our smurfs I can run Kat ok.



Oh yeah, just remembered something from a game last night. We're not doing great, but noone has lost a tower and we are only down 1 kill. For some reason, our Ashe decided to go mid and take my CS leaving Duskwraith top as Janna to hold off a tough lane by himself. He pings her to go top and she says "F*** you Janna", and stays in my lane. I drop a ward in the river bush towards top, and along comes Xin who has most of the enemy kills. I ping for Ashe to go back, cause we cant take him and Ziggs. She doesnt listen. Xin jumps on her, I toss a Q on him so she can get back. Instead she stays and fights, so I throw a shield. Ashe dies before I can even do anything else. For that she starts raging. "OMFG LUX DO SOMETHING!" "WTF DID YOU JUST STAND THERE?" I say "right, the snare and shield were nothing". She just says "F*** THIS, I'M NOT PLAYING WITH THIS TEAM ANY MORE". So she sorta plays, but doesnt do much, then informs us that "I'M FEEDING, DONT CRY ABOUT IT".

Seriously, we were down 1 kill... she dies cause she apparently thinks Lux can burst down a fed Xin and still have stuff left for a Ziggs, and now she's mad at us.
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#3287 luxuria

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:14 PM

Idiots are everywhere. I sometimes wonder if some of the players have some sort of mental disability. I just tell myself that they must. It's funny you mention that Waughoo as what that guy said is pretty much what anyone who is feeding says. "It's the teams fault I went into a 5v1. They should have followed me, the AD carry!" You get the idea.

As for the tournament, a lot of people were gushing over Dyrus out of nowhere. Funny how it was always "CLG 4 lyf" and now everyone is like "OMG TSM."

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:17 PM

I wasn't at PAX, but I can say IP4 was awful.
Casters had to fight with the audience just to speak louder. The room was so tiny and just reeked of sweat as well.


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#3289 crystalklear64

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:26 PM

It's too hard to run Kat anymore. I saw a post awhile ago where something like 70% of the champs now have at least one way to stop her ult. If not that then they either have a escape skill or flash. Basically now you either have to just jump in and pray the other team doesnt react to you quickly enough, or stay out of the fight and wait for all the CC to get blown while basically leaving your team is in a 4v5.

If we get some games going with some of our low level CAGers here on our smurfs I can run Kat ok.



Oh yeah, just remembered something from a game last night. We're not doing great, but noone has lost a tower and we are only down 1 kill. For some reason, our Ashe decided to go mid and take my CS leaving Duskwraith top as Janna to hold off a tough lane by himself. He pings her to go top and she says "F*** you Janna", and stays in my lane. I drop a ward in the river bush towards top, and along comes Xin who has most of the enemy kills. I ping for Ashe to go back, cause we cant take him and Ziggs. She doesnt listen. Xin jumps on her, I toss a Q on him so she can get back. Instead she stays and fights, so I throw a shield. Ashe dies before I can even do anything else. For that she starts raging. "OMFG LUX DO SOMETHING!" "WTF DID YOU JUST STAND THERE?" I say "right, the snare and shield were nothing". She just says "F*** THIS, I'M NOT PLAYING WITH THIS TEAM ANY MORE". So she sorta plays, but doesnt do much, then informs us that "I'M FEEDING, DONT CRY ABOUT IT".

Seriously, we were down 1 kill... she dies cause she apparently thinks Lux can burst down a fed Xin and still have stuff left for a Ziggs, and now she's mad at us.

bahah that guy...
if not for duskwraith though i think it was still salvageable. not saying he didn't have a right to be mad, just saying that i think us 4 could have pulled off a reasonable defense.


also,
i complain about you playing lux from time to time and i figured i'd think about it and figure out exactly why i have those little outbursts. lux has a nice toolkit with the snare the shield the slow and of course the laser. what she lacks is what all the ap champs i play have, and thats retarded burst. so, i get frustrated when i know that if I was you and playing Veigar or Leblanc instead of Lux in a situation, we could have easily killed someone. thats not really fair to you since Lux is good at things they aren't (very safe to play with her range, doesn't get removed from the game when someone buys banshee's, etc.), Lux ISN'T those champions I want her to be but instead of adapting and playing with her strengths, I just complain about what she can't do instead and its bad of me to even think like that, but thats how it is. another thing is that when you pick lux, even though she's not really a hard ap pick, i check it off in my mind like it is (ok waughoo is lux so we don't need ap, well Fuck there are no fun ranged ad, its always the jungler's fault... I just want to rape people damn it, guess I'll random and maybe i'll be inspired). no reason we can't have lux AND a heavy nuker on a team, i just don't think of it.

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#3290 SEH

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:30 PM

I hate the competitive scene for the game honestly. It's ruined it. Every shitty just watches streams now and tries to copy what they see. If they dont see something on a stream is clearly must not work.

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#3291 RabbitSuit

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:33 PM

On that note, I'm really glad Maokai played poorly in the tournament. No incoming nerfs for the big tree had me excited.


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#3292 crystalklear64

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:37 PM

Waughoo, do you remember when we'd lane together as Nasus and Kat? I miss that. I think the last time we laned together you were Kat and I was Galio and had that aweome ult at the end that got us an ace with all those AoE ults.

after playing with dusk and waughoo last night it felt way different then it used to playing with you guys. i know when its me and godzilla and zinrae we just kinda Fuck around troll people and each other not too worried about stuff and i know you guys aren't quite the same but still pretty laid back.

maybe it was just a bad night but man dusk was quick to anger. even waughoo, who doesn't seem to let stuff get to him too often, seemed to be getting upset, which is fair enough we lost like 5 or 4 in a row, but i just didn't expect it from either of you guys. i was really surprised at the banning drafts we tried. i haven't played for awhile so maybe its a legit concern or maybe you were just getting beat repeatedly by certain champs, but you seemed way serious about the bans. with few exceptions like release xin, even the most op champs haven't been so bad as that one team having them means an instant loss. don't sweat that stuff too much!

and its not even the "lol its just norm not ranked not like it matters", sure it matters, you're choosing to spend time on it, so it matters. but don't get so hung up on it.

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#3293 Waughoo

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:58 PM

Yeah, I agree we could have probably pulled a win outta that game if Dusk didnt get so mad. He's like me though, we're both tired of having one person ruin a game for everyone. Thats acually the first time I've ever seen him go AFK though, so I'm betting it was more than that Ashe that was bothering him. I myself do get pretty pissed at people anymore, especially when they are on my team and not really taking it serious. But I've never been mad enough to go AFK. I kind of look at it as "I want to play LoL, we cant surrender, I might as well keep playing LoL. Who knows, maybe I'll do/see something cool happen" so I keep playing.

We just recently started playing Draft, and yeah, we take bans kind of seriously. If you play draft awhile, you'll notice the same champs banned every time. Thats because when they are not banned, your team gets rolled by them. Last week the other team did troll bans, and had first pick. They grabbed Kassadin and destroyed me mid. Theres a reason he's always banned. Same with Morgana, she's a almost guaranteed lane win. Shacos are banned more for the annoyance factor IMO, because if he's there your team is not forced to buy pink wards or oracles all game. Anyhow, we get hung up on bans because if you dont then you're giving the other team a champ who is gonna make your game miserable.

As for Lux. I like Lux. I can play Ziggs, or Xerath, and probably even Viegar if I put some practice into last hitting with his Q. But like you said, I like her kit more. I'm not sure why you dont play Viegar more, I can go support Lux bot or you could go bot with Dusk and he can support you. Then we'd have 2 good CCs and a shit ton of burst.
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#3294 Morphx2

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:54 AM

Or I can play and just carry all your butts to victory

#3295 Waughoo

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:31 AM

Havent played Rumble in forever, and just crushed the other team with him. I was top vs Malphite. He couldnt do much with me because he was forced to stand in my flame thrower to farm. If he attacked me I'd shield it and my minions would tear into him while he ate more flamethrower and harpoons. He did get FB on me cause him and Udyr tower dove me, but our WW got both of them. After that, things kinda sucked for them. Malph and Udyr tried another tower dive later, but my ult was up so Malph got to take my ult + slows under the tower. Udyr just ran. Then I got my Revolver and could tower dive Malph + Ult and get the kill. I was like 6/1 at one point. After we took bot we pushed mid, and I think I had a triple kill from it. I ended up like 14/5 because I kept thinking "Ooooh! I can buy more AP" and never got any MR for Veigar. Plus I was to the point were I'd run into like 3 of them at once cause they would just run from me.
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#3296 icedrake523

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:24 AM

I was Ashe in that game. I had a fraction of a health bar and Udyr and Malphite chased me all the way to mid . I just kept turning around to Volley and slow them. Meanwhile, the rest of my team was wrecking their base.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:41 AM

I am seriously started to get tired of this fucking community. I played 4 games tonight, first game we won no problem. Last 3 games it was me and 3 people, just needed one pug.

First game we had a Tristiana and I was support Taric. There was a Ziggs bottom and every fucking bomb she would get hit with. Every time I stunned a champ, she would not attack him. She basically fed bottom so they raped the rest of the game and we lost.

Second game I was Ashe bot with a Sejuani. This Sejuani was worthless because she could not do anything to help me and then bitched about how I sucked. All game she kept saying how bad I sucked but I ended up 2nd in kills and 2nd in assists, and she had more deaths than me.

Third game we had a Sona go bot (Lux was mid), go ap Sona bot (with a Miss Fortune in the lane, and her build was fucking horrible for ap Sona), steal farm from MF, and then overextend every time and get killed. Sometimes she would just push a lane by herself with part of the team mia. :roll:
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#3298 SEH

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:00 AM

I actually had the exact opposite today. I went into every champ select saying "I can play whatever role is needed" and it really seemed to bring the best out of the people playing. They were surprised I wasn't some douche just immediately calling out a spot. Five straight games I had great players that had good communication and positive reinforcement when someone would do something good. I haven't had five straight wins like that in quite awhile.

On a side note, did they delay masteries being moved to server side? Yesterday it said that it would happen April 10th, then today they changed it to say that it would happen in "an upcoming patch".

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#3299 Waughoo

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:48 AM

The mastery switch doesn't go into effect until the new patch, which has been delayed till ???

I'm guessing it will be out today though.
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#3300 Morphx2

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:53 PM

I am seriously started to get tired of this fucking community. I played 4 games tonight, first game we won no problem. Last 3 games it was me and 3 people, just needed one pug.

First game we had a Tristiana and I was support Taric. There was a Ziggs bottom and every fucking bomb she would get hit with. Every time I stunned a champ, she would not attack him. She basically fed bottom so they raped the rest of the game and we lost.

Second game I was Ashe bot with a Sejuani. This Sejuani was worthless because she could not do anything to help me and then bitched about how I sucked. All game she kept saying how bad I sucked but I ended up 2nd in kills and 2nd in assists, and she had more deaths than me.

Third game we had a Sona go bot (Lux was mid), go ap Sona bot (with a Miss Fortune in the lane, and her build was fucking horrible for ap Sona), steal farm from MF, and then overextend every time and get killed. Sometimes she would just push a lane by herself with part of the team mia. :roll:



You would probably hate my support if you were that Ashe. I play Nautilus as a support/roaming and tell my AD person to prepare to solo a LOT because I roam and kill people :P

At least I tell them in champ select so they can prepare for it if they want me to support. It always seems to work out great too because Naut is the perfect roamer. I start boots + 3 hp pots, and just run around hooking, stunning, slowing, and getting kills for all the lanes.

Just gotta trust your ranged AD knows how to play safe and solo the lane well while I am gone. But I do return to help out and ward :D

I think my roaming/support Naut is around 5-1 in normal draft solo.