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#5491 speedracer

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:25 AM

Rubio McConnell Hatch Paul that SC guy my TX douchebag Grassley my new TX douchebag Coburn Graham Blunt... best I can do.

There needs to be a rule about (of all fucking people on the planet) corporate attorneys cum legislators who take personal shots at decorated war veterans. Like you can do it, but the vet gets to nut shot you for each one afterwards.

THAT MOTHERFUCKER HAS TWO PURPLE HEARTS AND THE CROSS OF GALLANTRY. HE WAS RESIGNING FROM THE VA BECAUSE THEY WERE REFUSING TO TAKE CARE OF VETERANS EXPOSED TO AGENT ORANGE WHEN YOU WERE STILL SUCKING YOUR MOTHER'S TIT CRUZ, YOU BUSINESS COCK SUCKING CORPORATE ATTORNEY PIECE OF SHIT.

Sorry. I have a thing about that. It's one of my buttons.
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#5492 The Crotch

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:27 AM

Shit, I've been caught.

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#5493 dohdough

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:31 AM

Rubio McConnell Hatch Paul that SC guy my TX douchebag Grassley my new TX douchebag Coburn Graham Blunt... best I can do.

There needs to be a rule about (of all fucking people on the planet) corporate attorneys cum legislators who take personal shots at decorated war veterans. Like you can do it, but the vet gets to nut shot you for each one afterwards.

THAT MOTHERFUCKER HAS TWO PURPLE HEARTS AND THE CROSS OF GALLANTRY. HE WAS RESIGNING FROM THE VA BECAUSE THEY WERE REFUSING TO TAKE CARE OF VETERANS EXPOSED TO AGENT ORANGE WHEN YOU WERE STILL SUCKING YOUR MOTHER'S TIT CRUZ, YOU BUSINESS COCK SUCKING CORPORATE ATTORNEY PIECE OF SHIT.

Sorry. I have a thing about that. It's one of my buttons.

Wait a sec, are you talking about the "shit for brains" comment? I thought that was Nugent?

Shit, I've been caught.

Awhile ago actually.;)

For some strange reason, I'm super opposed to kicking in $10 to chat with people smarter than me.:lol:

#5494 speedracer

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:38 AM

Wait a sec, are you talking about the "shit for brains" comment? I thought that was Nugent?

I'm talking about Cruz's choice of style of questioning Hagel. I have no personal love for Hagel but juuuuuuust a little respect might be in order.

Just sayin.
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#5495 dohdough

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:46 AM

I'm talking about Cruz's choice of style of questioning Hagel. I have no personal love for Hagel but juuuuuuust a little respect might be in order.

Just sayin.

Oh that...might want to me more specific next time. I like to know who I should direct my outrage towards.;)

McCain is eating so much crow right now though.:rofl:

#5496 mykevermin

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:51 AM

McCain is eating so much crow right now though.:rofl:


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#5497 dohdough

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:04 AM

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In regards to his hubris. Maybe all his recent posturing is a sideshow, but I'm not convinced it is.

#5498 mykevermin

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:12 AM

Can you elaborate a bit? I've not been able to follow politics as much as I want to lately, clearly (since I'm not sure what you're referring to).
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#5499 dohdough

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:27 AM

Can you elaborate a bit? I've not been able to follow politics as much as I want to lately, clearly (since I'm not sure what you're referring to).

Benghazi and the Hagel stuff. He's been talking a lot of shit lately, despite chiding Cruz today. Maybe he's posturing, maybe he's bitter about being "passed over," maybe he's trying to be relevant again, or whatever, but he ain't a happy camper.

#5500 mykevermin

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:31 AM

ahhh, thanks.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:59 AM

Heard an interesting thing on NPR recently. To make this as short as possible, the gist of it was that the modern republican party, the party that hates the idea of government doing basically anything at all, is more or less the child of William F. Buckley and the National Review. That before that point, republicans had no problem with using government power to enforce things, like the civil rights act for instance, Eisenhower had no qualms about it. Eventually though, a few ideologue "intellectuals" (their word) got the idea that the government shouldn't be enforcing things like that, that the states should be left to do it on their own, and of course you get the modern day republican party.

As someone who's spent their life in the south, I can say I'm glad that this part of the country wasn't left to figure out civil rights on their own.
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#5502 mykevermin

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:03 AM

If you can find a link to that, I'd love to read/listen. I've long argued that Buckley would be disgusted by today's party. This seems rather contrary to that.
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#5503 Clak

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:07 AM

http://www.npr.org/2...of-white-people

Not Buckley in particular, but the National Review in general.
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#5504 mykevermin

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:11 AM

That I can see, particularly post-Buckley. Most GOP talking heads are useful idiots (i.e., willfully ignorant so as to keep themselves wealthy as the benefactors of their plutocrat masters). Jonah Goldberg consistently lacked any sense of utility, IMO.
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#5505 dohdough

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:13 AM

If you can find a link to that, I'd love to read/listen. I've long argued that Buckley would be disgusted by today's party. This seems rather contrary to that.

I always thought of Buckley as being a more pompous and "erudite" version of O'Reilly. His presentation might be less boorish, but the content is still pretty bad.

edit: Thanks for the link Clak. Don't know if I buy his hypothesis about NR, but it's probably because his book is more detailed.

#5506 Clak

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:03 PM

I love this state, really I do.

http://www.rawstory....student-grades/

Because averages aren't used to measure academic achievement, sigh.....
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#5507 Strell

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:07 PM

No, see. If your wall is rotting on the inside from water damage, you just paint over it. That coat of paint instantly destroys mold and reinforces structural integrity.

Then that wall grows up and still can't read, and has to mooch off its parents. Unless they've got more paint, of course!


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#5508 Clak

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:12 PM

The republican party is pretty diabolical, I'll give them that. They help ensure that kids won't grow up well educated, then when that happens, they get to complain that those now adults are mooching off society because they're under educated and can't find better paying work.

It's like a fucking bond villain plan, just spread out over years.
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#5509 Clak

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 03:55 PM

I remember this was attached to some movie when it was in theaters, but I can't remember which one.

http://tu.tv/videos/...longest-daycare

So, who else do we think went to that school? :lol:
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#5510 irideabike

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:08 PM

The republican party is pretty diabolical, I'll give them that. They help ensure that kids won't grow up well educated, then when that happens, they get to complain that those now adults are mooching off society because they're under educated and can't find better paying work.

It's like a fucking bond villain plan, just spread out over years.


Seriously? It isn't any government party's job to educate the general populace. What we need is more options than just a failing public school system, but the second a private sector option enters the picture it's OH NO that would never work. I know that in my state 32% of the state budget goes towards education. The whole republicans hate education BS is so overplayed. Not supporting failing teachers unions =\= ensuring kids grow up not educated.

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#5511 Clak

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:16 PM

Oooo, infighting.

http://www.humaneven...st-plain-wrong/

Anyone else see the irony in Gingrich talking about the mistakes of the last election, when he's never been able to get himself elected?
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#5512 irideabike

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:21 PM

Gingrich made some good points in that article.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:02 PM

Seriously? It isn't any government party's job to educate the general populace. What we need is more options than just a failing public school system, but the second a private sector option enters the picture it's OH NO that would never work. I know that in my state 32% of the state budget goes towards education. The whole republicans hate education BS is so overplayed. Not supporting failing teachers unions =\= ensuring kids grow up not educated.

The reason why private/charter schools seem to do "better" is because they get to choose their students. Those types of schools don't need to accept special needs kids or even have a program for them.

Even beyond that, having a good school with good teachers is just one out of many important aspects of having a "good" school system. Taking kids from the hood and putting them in a prep school doesn't automatically make them a good student if they don't have a financially and domestically stable home in a safe neighborhood.

Do Republicans hate education? Fuck yes, they do. That's always first on the chopping block when there's a budget "problem," especially when they're manufactured. Democrats don't get off the hook either because they'd rather take resources from public schools and slowly filter them to public/private hybrid charter schools rather than go whole hog voucher system that would guarantee that far too many students wouldn't be educated at all.

You can bitch about "MAH TAXES!" and "failing school systems" all you want, but you have absolutely no interest in really examining why some systems succeed and some systems fail.

I don't know if it's because you have a kid on the way or what, but you've gotten super troll-ish in vs. lately.
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#5514 irideabike

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:55 PM

http://www.hks.harva...chers_FINAL.pdf

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#5515 mykevermin

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:58 PM

Gingrich made some good points in that article.


e.g.,

Watch the movie “Lincoln.” This was a politician who thought long and deeply.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:15 PM

http://www.hks.harva...chers_FINAL.pdf


Counterpoint:

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If I thought you read the study, and it's pretty obvious to me that you didn't, especially in how it relates to my points, I'd give a serious answer, but since you decided to "cite" a study without even reading it, enjoy the meatspinning lemonparty.:roll:
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#5517 GBAstar

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:22 PM

The reason why private/charter schools seem to do "better" is because they get to choose their students. Those types of schools don't need to accept special needs kids or even have a program for them.

Even beyond that, having a good school with good teachers is just one out of many important aspects of having a "good" school system. Taking kids from the hood and putting them in a prep school doesn't automatically make them a good student if they don't have a financially and domestically stable home in a safe neighborhood.

Do Republicans hate education? Fuck yes, they do. That's always first on the chopping block when there's a budget "problem," especially when they're manufactured. Democrats don't get off the hook either because they'd rather take resources from public schools and slowly filter them to public/private hybrid charter schools rather than go whole hog voucher system that would guarantee that far too many students wouldn't be educated at all.

You can bitch about "MAH TAXES!" and "failing school systems" all you want, but you have absolutely no interest in really examining why some systems succeed and some systems fail.

I don't know if it's because you have a kid on the way or what, but you've gotten super troll-ish in vs. lately.


I agree with everything you said. My mom has been an educator her entire life and has finally moved onto administration.

Part of the problem is people read about the high graduation or college placement rates that some of these charter or private schools have and don't realize those numbers are ridiculously skewed because as DD said those schools get to pick from the cream of the crop. They can cut the fat and bar special need and behavior need students from attending.

The biggest problem in my eyes is that the teachers are now expected to be parents as well as educators as many of the students don't get parenting at home and it is a catch-22 because God forbid a teacher actually disciplines a student in 2013.

People bitch and moan about teacher salaries but you could not pay me enough to work in a public school system and this is coming from someone that worked at a Job Corps Center for almost 5 years.

I really wish they hadn't done away with a lot of the technical schools that were popular 20 years ago for kids 14-18.

#5518 irideabike

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:32 PM

If I thought you read the study, and it's pretty obvious to me that you didn't, especially in how it relates to my points, I'd give a serious answer, but since you decided to "cite" a study without even reading it, enjoy the meatspinning lemonparty.:roll:


Did you not read it? It is a study based on NYC voucher programs given to 1000 low income students in the 90s, and what transpired based on their opportunities.

Also, counterpoint to GBAstar, both of my parents are teachers and I disagree with him. Look at state budgets and the portion of it dedicated to education. The numbers rarely change from administration to administration. I agree with GBAstar on his points about getting rid of the technical schools, and the fact that teachers have became parent, role model, babysitter and instructor.

And yes dohdough, they teach in low income schools.

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#5519 dohdough

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:45 PM

Did you not read it? It is a study based on NYC voucher programs given to 1000 low income students in the 90s, and what transpired based on their opportunities.

I did actually. That's how I know you didn't. Hence my counterpoints.

Also, counterpoint to GBAstar, both of my parents are teachers and I disagree with him. Look at state budgets and the portion of it dedicated to education. The numbers rarely change from administration to administration. I agree with GBAstar on his points about getting rid of the technical schools, and the fact that teachers have became parent, role model, babysitter and instructor.

Three guesses as to why they disappeared.

And yes dohdough, they teach in low income schools.

Strawman huh? Good job.
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#5520 Clak

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

Is there something wrong with a teacher being a role model? Someone who spends most of their life teaching kids while making less than they probably could in another field, I'd say self sacrifice is something to look up to, because I know there is no way in hell I'd want to be a teacher. Granted I do remember having some shitty teachers and school staff.
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