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#211 xycury

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 11:46 PM

I said single mother in the beginning of it but I guess ill add it in the other part. Or was this some type of backhanded comment?


No.

You + work - school = your life

Single mom + work - school + school - kid = their life

Your life thier life

#212 camoor

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 11:51 PM

Thats a classic politician response, we cant fix something because theres something else more important.

Listen I am not saying we shouldnt give more aid to single mother students than just regular students, but I do think that the balance is out of whack. When I get no financial aid for education, and they get 110% of what they need for education, and we make almost the same, I think something is wrong.


Did I say we shouldn't fix it, or that I wouldn't worry about it? Nope.

I just said it's akin to arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. I would rather have voter and Congressional energy be directed towards getting the economy back on track, fixing the deficit, and placing safeguards against major disasters, and when happy days are here again we can go back to arguing back and forth about all the chickenshit.

I mean, I've already wasted two posts responding to this nonsense issue that won't amount to as much as a footnote in even the most exhaustively detailed historical accounts of the current era. In that time I wonder how many more billions wall street execs have raked in while American cities crumble, how many more gallons of oil have seeped into the gulf, and how many hours closer we are to the next disaster wrought by government deregulation.

Time is a precious thing. Energy is a precious thing. Those who craft policy have little of both. In a general sense you advocate for efficient government but when it comes down to specifics you want to focus attention on a petty issue because it happens to come within view of your myopic anecdotal perspective. Don't you see the irony in that?

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 11:55 PM

Did I say we shouldn't fix it, or that I wouldn't worry about it? Nope.

I just said it's akin to arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. I would rather have voter and Congressional energy be directed towards getting the economy back on track, fixing the deficit, and placing safeguards against major disasters, and when happy days are here again we can go back to arguing back and forth about all the chickenshit.

I mean, I've already wasted two posts responding to this nonsense issue that won't amount to as much as a footnote in even the most exhaustively detailed historical accounts of the current era. In that time I wonder how many more billions wall street execs have raked in while American cities crumble, how many more gallons of oil have seeped into the gulf, and how many hours closer we are to the next disaster wrought by government deregulation.

Time is a precious thing. Energy is a precious thing. Those who craft policy have little of both. In a general sense you advocate for efficient government but when it comes down to specifics you want to focus attention on a petty issue because it happens to come within view of your myopic anecdotal perspective. Don't you see the irony in that?


I most certainly see the irony in what you say.

#214 camoor

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 11:57 PM

I most certainly see the irony in what you say.


I'm not sure you understand what those words mean. Go ahead and look them up in a dictionary and come back when you have something intelligent to say.

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 11:57 PM

No.

You + work - school = your life

Single mom + work - school + school - kid = their life

Your life thier life


So you agree that single moms should get school paid for 110% but people who dont have kids should get nothing?

Again I am not saying a single mother should not get more money than the average individual, I am saying however that the average individual should get something to help them pay, and single moms should have to pay at least some amount of tuition.

I know its hard to believe but college is expensive for people without kids too.

#216 IRHari

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 11:59 PM

Wow Knoell doesn't think it's important to address the economy, deficit, safeguards, and gov't regulation.

That's not a starman btw. camoor is saying those things should be the top priority over bullshit like welfare reform for single mothers who don't deserve it.
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Posted 15 May 2010 - 12:01 AM

So you agree that single moms should get school paid for 110% but people who dont have kids should get nothing?


You forgot poor people, they don't have to have kids.

I see you're in favor of the government funding free college educations for all citizens Knoell, I agree.

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 12:05 AM

I'm not sure you understand what those words mean. Go ahead and look them up in a dictionary and come back when you have something intelligent to say.


Camoor:
but when it comes down to specifics you want to focus attention on a petty issue because it happens to come within view of your myopic anecdotal perspective. Don't you see the irony in that?

You basically just criticized me for taking issue with something that affects me while focusing in on what you think is more important to you. That is irony.

#219 IRHari

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 12:11 AM

Dude, Knoell, YOU think the economy deficits and safeguards/regulations are important. It's important to YOU too, you've made this extremely clear. You seem to also think that welfare reform is important.

What the hell is this shit?

camoor is just saying that the gummint can only address some issues at a time, and those three i meintioned are pretty important and are going to need a ton of resources and attention.
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Posted 15 May 2010 - 01:28 AM

I'm pretty sure the welfare benefits of single moms is having a greater negative economic impact than that one gushing oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico. That is only $150 billion whereas those welfare moms are causing $40 trillion in havoc per year.
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#221 JolietJake

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 02:00 AM

How the hell did we go from the murdering dickhole to welfare?

God damn, we're worse than Amtrack when it comes to derailing.

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 03:28 AM

This is where the trail always leads in the vs. forum.

And since someone keeps quoting Knoell. I love how you said that you should accountable for your actions before getting pregnant. Then why does the Republican Party fight comprehensive sex ed at every step?

You can't be responsible without education on the matter. You can't give a kid a car and then get all pissed when he drives like a maniac. He went to Driver's Ed but all they told him is that you'll never get into a car accident if you never get into a car or walk near roads.

#223 xycury

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 03:52 AM

Knoell

Everyone has a chance to get grants to go to school. How much in that matter depends on the federal and state allowments. Some states award a larger sum than others.

The poor also get a nice chunk for college too.

It could be that she's extremely lucky. being a mother with a kid and alone is quite hard to juggle both...She was probably poor too, so kid+poor = 110%. I know this state gives out ALOT for single moms.

And sure college is expensive, I am still currently paying for mine after 5 years... I had to take loans.

It's a small investment to make sure she doesn't get 30-40 years of Welfare.

#224 JolietJake

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 05:03 AM

Because when it comes to sex for conservatives, being responsible means not having any until you're married.

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 09:49 PM

Yet again, you guys are making classic politician responses. How come you are putting words in my mouth saying nothing needs to be fixed besides welfare? I never said that, and we arent the policy makers ( I hope you guys realize that....), so I don't think itll have a disastreous impact if I talk about the screwed up financing of college education for a few minutes. It is not like the people in the gulf stop working because we arent talking about them lol. Oh and they should still drill off the virginian coast, this disaster shouldn't affect that.

What do you consider poor Spazx? I know, I make $24,000 and Im considered independant and I dont get any aid oncesoever. All I get is the ability to take more student loans out. Have you guys ever wondered what would happen to college costs if the government stopped backing all of the loans? Colleges would have to drop prices because noone would be able to afford to go. So no I am not in favor of free college for all, but if you are going to help some people more than others can it be something less outrageous than 0% to 110%.

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 09:53 PM

This is where the trail always leads in the vs. forum.

And since someone keeps quoting Knoell. I love how you said that you should accountable for your actions before getting pregnant. Then why does the Republican Party fight comprehensive sex ed at every step?

You can't be responsible without education on the matter. You can't give a kid a car and then get all pissed when he drives like a maniac. He went to Driver's Ed but all they told him is that you'll never get into a car accident if you never get into a car or walk near roads.


What does sex ed do to help this situation? Do you really think these girls/women don't realize they can get pregnant? They know, its just a balance of personal responsibility that should be urged on by the parents, not a damn teacher in 4th grade showing slides of STDs. We have sex ed in health class in high schools dont we? where else do you want it?

#227 IRHari

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 11:15 PM

If you have sex ed, you're educated about sex. That way no one can say 'I told you so' and it is their complete responsibility.
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Posted 15 May 2010 - 11:49 PM

Oh republicans. You so classy.


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#229 JolietJake

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 03:47 AM

I don't get why totally unrelated things are even allowed to be tacked onto bills. It's like the way we have completely unrelated things posted here in threads.

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#230 camoor

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 04:31 AM

I don't get why totally unrelated things are even allowed to be tacked onto bills. It's like the way we have completely unrelated things posted here in threads.


LOL

I was just going to say Knoell should be so happy.

I bet he's thinking - "what's the problem, watching porn at work is bad and so is government spending, so who cares if they're both struck down in the same bill"

#231 UncleBob

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 04:44 AM

I don't get why totally unrelated things are even allowed to be tacked onto bills. It's like the way we have completely unrelated things posted here in threads.


I do agree - but this is nothing new in Congress. At least it's not named "The Bill to Stop Paying Federal Employees to Watch Porn" while providing funding for federal employees to watch porn. There's more than a couple of those types of bills out there.

"It was a cynical effort to undermine an important bill for my 9-year-old daughter, for your kids and your grandkids."


Wait, this guy's *now* worried about our grandchildren? How long has he been selling our grand-children into Chinese slavery?
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Posted 16 May 2010 - 05:07 AM

If you have sex ed, you're educated about sex. That way no one can say 'I told you so' and it is their complete responsibility.


Yep because if we have sex ed, kids will really stop having sex.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 05:42 AM

I don't get why totally unrelated things are even allowed to be tacked onto bills. It's like the way we have completely unrelated things posted here in threads.


I totally agree. A good example is the way that the health-care bill also included a federal takeover of the private student loan industry.
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#234 camoor

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 11:45 AM

...essentially, some banker/trader/finance type took time of out his very busy day to warn Main Street of his imminent arrival into the ranks of the working class.
The letter cautioned that because of our unwarranted meddling in his industry, we're going to lose our cushy "$85k a year" jobs to him and all his financial friends. We'll lose our "4 month" vacation privileges, the superfluous bathroom breaks that we take, and our swollen, blue-collar benefit packages. Naturally, Wall Street folk don't require such frivolities, he says, but they'll gladly take them (or assist in their elimination) if they're forced to work our jobs.


http://www.fool.com/...eet-people.aspx

I wish this was true. I would pay money to see video of the Wall Streeter walking in to unemployment looking for 85K and four months vacation for "teaching 3rd graders" or "doing landscaping".

#235 IRHari

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 01:26 PM

Yep because if we have sex ed, kids will really stop having sex.


coolnonsequitorbrah.

Try again. That's not what I'm saying.
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#236 JolietJake

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 03:09 PM

http://www.fool.com/...eet-people.aspx

I wish this was true. I would pay money to see video of the Wall Streeter walking in to unemployment looking for 85K and four months vacation for "teaching 3rd graders" or "doing landscaping".

:lol: Like any of them would actually do landscaping or teach kids. No pension? Well hell you make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, you don't need a pension.

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#237 camoor

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 03:19 PM

:lol: Like any of them would actually do landscaping or teach kids. No pension? Well hell you make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, you don't need a pension.


The letter is off-the-chain ridiculous.

Go ahead and continue to take us down, but you're only going to hurt yourselves. What's going to happen when we can't find jobs on the Street anymore? Guess what: We're going to take yours. We get up at 5am & work till 10pm or later. We're used to not getting up to pee when we have a position. We don't take an hour or more for a lunch break. We don't demand a union. We don't retire at 50 with a pension. We eat what we kill, and when the only thing left to eat is on your dinner plates, we'll eat that.


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Uh-huh

I'm thinking it ends up more like the first thirty minutes of "Trading Places"

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 03:31 PM

Why do traders even exist? Could their jobs not be done 100% by a computer?

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#239 camoor

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 04:59 PM

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#240 JolietJake

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 05:54 PM

I saw that last Friday on Real Time, couldn't believe it. That's why i love Real Time though, they always find the craziest shit.

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