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#61 gbpackers94

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 04:36 AM

A little lttp, but I say Colts vs. Saints for the repeat in the superbowl
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#62 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 02:45 AM

This was an extremely sloppy game for the Browns, as they gave the lead away with all of the fumbles that let the Rams start a few drives in their own territory. Besides the first drive, the Rams only scores have been the result of fumbles, so they need to work more on holding onto the wet ball well.

They had some good drives once they settled down as both Delhomme and Wallace played well against the weak St. Louis defense they faced. Peyton Hillis played extremely well with Vickers blocking for him as he ran through and around the Rams defense like they were nothing and he made some great catches, as well. He could be a very good third down/passing back, which Denver would probably like to have back right about now.

The defense played very well after the first drive as they shut down Bradford and the running game consistently and the secondary did well to limit big receptions despite some more PI calls that kept the Rams offense on the field. If the Rams were a better team, this game would've been a big blowout.


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#63 Matt Young

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 06:08 AM

The Packers game aired on NFL Network tonight, so I didn't have to watch a stream, and I got to see the game in HD. The offense looked great again, but just like last week, the defense was pretty shaky. then again, it's only the preseason, and the defense was great last year and should be this year. Still, it's a bit disconcerting to see the team give up so many points against teams like the Seahawks tonight and the Browns last weekend.

I'll be checking out the Vikings/Niners game tomorrow to see Brett Favre. The Packers play again on Thursday night against the Colts on ESPN.

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#64 gbpackers94

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 06:33 AM

The Packers game aired on NFL Network tonight, so I didn't have to watch a stream, and I got to see the game in HD. The offense looked great again, but just like last week, the defense was pretty shaky. then again, it's only the preseason, and the defense was great last year and should be this year. Still, it's a bit disconcerting to see the team give up so many points against teams like the Seahawks tonight and the Browns last weekend. I'll be checking out the Vikings/Niners game tomorrow to see Brett Favre. The Packers play again on Thursday night against the Colts on ESPN.

Brandon Jackson looked good tonight, at least his stats did. (I don't have NFL network so I couldn't watch the game)
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#65 Matt Young

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 11:02 AM

For future reference, ATDHE.net usually has links to streams of most games. That's what I use when the games aren't televised here.

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#66 ph33r m3

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 12:45 AM

Suck a dick Favre. Hope you enjoyed getting your ass laid out.
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#67 DT778

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 03:18 AM

Yup, loved that he was supposed to play two series but instead he went out with just one because of that hit.

#68 bvharris

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 03:12 PM

Hope no one had money on the Vikings:



The spread was Niners -3.5. :D

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#69 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 05:02 PM

Who bets on pre-season games?


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#70 SEH

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 05:20 PM

Who bets on pre-season games?


People addicted to betting/gambling?

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#71 evildeadjedi

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 05:28 PM

People addicted to betting/gambling?


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#72 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 05:42 PM

I guess, but you'd have to be an idiot to bet on who has the better second and third stringers.


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#73 JaxMoney

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:07 PM

Brett Favre is such a pussy, diva, and all of the above. Did you guys hear that he plays dumb about whether to come back or not just to skip the 'hard work' aka training camp? He plays dumb and is MIA until the time training camp is over and he decides to pop in just so he can play the games and not practice. I feel sorry for the guys on his team doing two-a-days and working their asses off... like Tarvaris Jackson for example. I hope the Vikings will wake the Fuck up and move on already... I'm tired of his antics, and definitely tired of seeing him in the headlines all the time.
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#74 JaxMoney

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:08 PM

For future reference, ATDHE.net usually has links to streams of most games. That's what I use when the games aren't televised here.


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#75 bvharris

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:14 PM

I actually agree. Tarvaris Jackson's QB rating his improved significantly every year he's been a professional QB (not even counting last year's 124, which doesn't really count since it's based on 15 attempts). He's not great by any means, but I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that the Vikings would suck without Favre. Is he a better option at this point? Probably. But I'm not sure the difference is big enough to justify the expense or bother.

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#76 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:26 PM

I don't think there's a team in the league, that doesn't already have a great QB, that wouldn't take Brett Favre if they had the option, especially after seeing the season the Vikings had last season.


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#77 bvharris

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:32 PM

I don't think there's a team in the league, that doesn't already have a great QB, that wouldn't take Brett Favre if they had the option, especially after seeing the season the Vikings had last season.


While your point is well taken, and mostly true, I think teams which are so bad that they wouldn't even be good if they had Favre (take the Lions or Rams) would prefer to develop their young QBs than put up with the Favre circus. I've got no doubt that teams on the cusp or close to it like the 49ers or Cardinals would be happy to have him though, as you said.

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#78 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:45 PM

While your point is well taken, and mostly true, I think teams which are so bad that they wouldn't even be good if they had Favre (take the Lions or Rams) would prefer to develop their young QBs than put up with the Favre circus. I've got no doubt that teams on the cusp or close to it like the 49ers or Cardinals would be happy to have him though, as you said.

Even then, those quarterbacks could learn a lot by watching him play in person. He can't make a bad team great by just being there since a QB needs at least a decent group of receivers to be effective.

I'm sure Minnesota could do just fine with Tarvaris Jackson, but Favre immediately gave a boost to that offense due to his experience and ability to run an offense that Jackson couldn't even dream of doing up to that point.


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#79 JStryke

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 02:07 AM

He can't make a bad team great by just being there since a QB needs at least a decent group of receivers to be effective.


I disagree. You can have a great quaterback make good receivers. Good receivers do not make a good quarterback (or at least, a lot less often).

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#80 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 02:22 AM

So he could make the five worst receivers in the league good? I'd think that they would need a base level of competency to be able to become a good group of receivers with him.


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#81 gbpackers94

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 02:32 AM

So he could make the five worst receivers in the league good? I'd think that they would need a base level of competency to be able to become a good group of receivers with him.

They wouldn't be in the NFL if they were that bad.

#82 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 02:51 AM

They'd have to be in the NFL to be the worst receivers in the NFL.

I don't even know what JStryke is disagreeing with since he said a great quarterback can make receivers good, which is basically what I said in that they need to be decent for a great QB to build up into good receivers.


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#83 tiddled06

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 04:22 AM

First off, im a HUGE Packers fan..My opionion however is not biased.. I truly feel like this is their year...My Picks..

AFC

East: Jets
West: Chargers
North: Ravens
South: Colts
WC- #1: Bengals and #2: Patriots
AFC Champ: Colts Vs Ravens ----- Colts

NFC

East: Dallas
West: 49ers
North: Packers
South: Saints

WC #1: Vikings and #2: Falcons

NFC Championship: Packers Vs. Dallas---- Packers

Superbowl: Packers Vs Colts---- Packers

#84 DT778

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 05:29 AM

Can a Vikings fan or someone who knows fill me in on the role the team sees Toby Gerhart playing? Is he the for sure number two back already? How much action he will be seeing in the regular season? I watched him tear it up at Stanford pretty much the whole year so I was looking forward to seeing him in the preseason against the Niners but they hardly used him. 4 rushes and 2 check down throws.

#85 venom077

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 08:54 AM

Just to check in with the rest of the community. Am I the only Ravens fan who does'nt like Troy Smith and thinks Marc Bulger should definately be the backup QB? I've never seen anything great out of smith but in the second half of that last preseason Bulger and the new guys tore it up.

#86 DT778

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 09:03 AM

Check out this 63 yard pass (in the air) from Davis to Ginn. He threw it with his foot on the goal line and it landed around the Vikings' 36 yard line. Play starts at 0:25.



#87 SEH

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 08:52 PM

I disagree. You can have a great quaterback make good receivers. Good receivers do not make a good quarterback (or at least, a lot less often).


I'd actually say that it's the opposite way around. You can have a mediocre QB made to look great by having great receivers who can go get the ball no matter what. A good QB cant make shitty receivers learn to catch.

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#88 QiG

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 09:38 PM

I'd actually say that it's the opposite way around. You can have a mediocre QB made to look great by having great receivers who can go get the ball no matter what. A good QB cant make shitty receivers learn to catch.


I can't speak for Leinart, but if Anderson gets any snaps in Arizona, he's got one of the only guys in the league that can salvage his career in Fitzgerald.
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#89 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 24 August 2010 - 09:49 PM

That's if he can get the ball within ten feet of Fitzgerald.


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Posted 25 August 2010 - 03:11 AM

That's if he can get the ball within ten feet of Fitzgerald.


Well, it's either gonna sail over his head or be directly on target... the receivers feet being his target.
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