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#61 RichMeisterMan

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 03:21 AM

EA's sleazy system of paying for cheats and stats boost is one of the reasons I refuse to buy EA games. As bad as Activision sometimes seems, EA retains its title as most evil game publisher. I'll play a copy of their games at a friend's house but they'll never get my money.


So you'll buy a new CoD game that's shoved out the door every year but you won't buy a game from EA because of something optional that they offer?

...Interesting.

#62 drew327

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 04:48 AM

I can't believe you mentioned the Mafia 2 demo and didn't talk about the boobs. I don't even know this show anymore!

#63 nickb492

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 04:56 AM

Hey Wombat what do you think of the Bioshock Infinite trailer? Looks like they took your advice and changed the environment to the sky. Do you think this change for the game is going to hurt or help the franchise? But anyways love the show and listen religiously ever week. Love Cheapy D and "Boat Crash" too.

#64 DietCokeJunkey

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:00 AM

I think I may be one of the few who didn't like having Esteban on the show. He isn't the reason why I didn't like it (I really enjoyed having him on), it's the fact that with 4 people it seems very chaotic and like not everyone gets to say what they want. It seemed like there was a 30 minute period in which it was just Wombat and Esteban were talking, Cheapy saying "yeah" after their comments and Ship just being absolutely silent. It doesn't seem to flow as well as just 3 people, despite there being fewer "awkward" pauses.

And I'm glad that you managed to make this an enjoyable CAGcast (lots of humor) because with such a slow week for gaming, I didn't think it would be that good.

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#65 eliter1

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:20 AM

I think I may be one of the few who didn't like having Esteban on the show. He isn't the reason why I didn't like it (I really enjoyed having him on), it's the fact that with 4 people it seems very chaotic and like not everyone gets to say what they want. It seemed like there was a 30 minute period in which it was just Wombat and Esteban were talking, Cheapy saying "yeah" after their comments and Ship just being absolutely silent. It doesn't seem to flow as well as just 3 people, despite there being fewer "awkward" pauses.

And I'm glad that you managed to make this an enjoyable CAGcast (lots of humor) because with such a slow week for gaming, I didn't think it would be that good.



Agree, it almost seemed like Esteban had been podcasting with the CAG crew for a long time but sometimes Ship and Cheapy would stay quiet for a while. Really wish Esteban can be on the show again some time.

Hey Cheapy, you should try to throw a CAG reference in the voice work for Saints Row 3. Maybe something that doesn't give it away but only people who listen to the podcast would know where it's coming from.

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#66 reddjoey

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:30 AM

Great show guys. I liked hearing Estabon chatting with the CAG crew. I'll check out his unofficial podcast later this week.

I saw the glitch floating around and was shocked when I saw it on Joystiq as well. I can understand that it is "news", but it definitely could have been edited a bit. Also, most of the comments on that post are against using it. I hope Joystiq addresses it in their podcast.

Secondly, I guess no one played Earthbound. They found a way to get smell into games.

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#67 hollitz

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:55 AM

Innocent robot humor is my favorite kind of humor.
Props to Ship for mentioning it!
Was also good to hear Ship get passionate. Not sure how I feel about the issue but I liked hearing Ship's journalistic integrity.

#68 iunder

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:22 AM

Esteban was a great guest. I will be checking out his podcasts.

#69 AriesDog

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:50 AM

So you'll buy a new CoD game that's shoved out the door every year but you won't buy a game from EA because of something optional that they offer?

...Interesting.

Sleazy optional. Like a guy offering his sister for a "date".

Though the Call of Duty games are annualized I'd hardly call them shoved out since, unlike say Madden, there's big differences between each release and the games are of high quality. Hell, look at this week's most played games list on Major Nelson. Call of Duty holds the #1, 3, 4 spots. It's kind of insane when older entries in a series are still played that much.

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#70 AriesDog

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 12:04 PM

Cheapy, thanks the info about IMDB. I'm on there as a producer for a short film I did there a few years ago. A couple of years ago I worked on an indie film that's gone on to get a lot of awards. The movie listed the cast but not all of the crew so I was thinking of updating it.

#71 Curufinwe

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 12:20 PM

Though the Call of Duty games are annualized I'd hardly call them shoved out


I would

MW2 multiplayer has been a buggy, glitchy mess since launch and Activision is far more interested in selling map packs for an inflated price than fixing the bugs.

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#72 LiK

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 12:26 PM

Great guest! Really enjoyed his appearance. Btw, was Cheapy eating during the show? How rude!

Wombat, the reason you love DQIX is because the producer said he was more inspired by Oblivion when they were working on the game. Maybe that's the reason? ;)

And Wombat's opinion about original IPs discussion during that discussion was spot on.

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#73 PioRow

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 01:09 PM

Can someone refesh me with the name of Esteban's personal podcast, I cant remember the name or the point at which he mentions it.

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#74 usickenme

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 02:34 PM

The oddly named 'Call of Podcast'


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#75 theytookourjobz

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 02:38 PM

I have no idea how there was absolutely no cross-talk at all on the podcast. With four cooks in the kitchen, you would think it inevitable. Great show this week though guys and Esteban was awesome.

#76 Swoxx

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 02:54 PM

So whats the uncensored title for this show? I'm going with c*ntlickers!

#77 scurvydlicious

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 04:41 PM

So whats the uncensored title for this show? I'm going with c*ntlickers!

Cunnilingus, which is the same as what you said ;)

Also, great show guys, and thanks for the godaddy coupon codes.

#78 Blackout

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:06 PM

Great show guys! This episode was really funny. Cheapy, you were killin' me with your Saints Row voices. Please try to get those in the game. Esteban was really good on the show. He seems like a real cool dude. You should have him on more often. He mixes well with you guys. I'll definitely be checking out his podcast.

Shipwreck, I agree with you on Mafia 2. I can't get excited about it. I played Mafia 1 several years ago and I thought it really sucked. It wasn't a good game. The driving was awful. I didn't even bother beating it. I was really surprised to see them making a sequel and seeing so much hype around it now, considering the first one was pretty lame.

As for the glitch story, the excuse that it's a news story so it had to be posted is just a big time cop out. Yeah it was a news story, but so is the announcement of a new Disney show DS game, but that doesn't mean it deserves a post (sadly, these sites do post those as well). They just covered the story wrong. You don't tell people exactly how to steal games. If they just had to post it, they should have left out names, the source link, and especially the method of going about it. Personally, I feel this story should not have been posted.

Kotaku once again proved they're a trash site. It must have been a slow news day and they couldn't find a celebrity holding a PS3 controller or something. I guess we finally found out what they're the "Gamer's Guide" to: stealing.

The Joystiq crew pretends to have some sort of journalistic integrity, but they're just like all the other blogs. McElroy is a hyprocite (as somebody in this thread pointed out earlier). The only thing these sites care about is page views. A post about how to get free games through a glitch is going to get a lot of page views.

It's good that Destructoid didn't post the story, but that doesn't excuse all the other terrible shit they post. They still suck ass.

As Wombat pointed out, I would love to see these guys do that to an EA, Activision, or Microsoft/Sony game. Like Wombat said, it would be down as fast as it went up. I don't think they would want to stop the exclusive stories, free trips, games, and game schwag from coming in. The company in question is an easy target, so who cares right? It'll give them another post and more page views if they ever file for bankruptcy. Then they can write a feature story on the fall of smaller game companies, asking just why is this happening? like they actually care.

Tomb Raider launching without online co-op is hilarious. A big time feature left out of the game for a few weeks is super weak. I don't think the game's going to do that well, even when it comes out for PS3.



#79 kermit1986

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:09 PM

Just wondering, what is the punishment for that glitch exploit?

I was told about the glitch by a friend, who showed me it on Metal Slug XX (at my house, on my tag). Feeling wrong about it after he left though, plus the fact it wasn't showing in my games list, and the fact I had fun playing the game and wouldn't mind owning it, I went and bought the game off the marketplace so I had it legitimately.

Since then I've come across some of these blog posts and mentions on various forums about the glitch, some are saying accounts get banned, some say that gamerscores get reset.

I'm just wondering if I'm likely to get punished? As the only game I tried it on, is now in my XBOX purchase history.

#80 Microshock

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:58 PM

First, Esteban's pretty cool. Keep him on.
Please stop Wombat from choosing the past show's comments. He always manages to ignore the best ones. Let Shipwreck get say in this as well or CheapyD.

Shipwreck, stop taking so LONG to explain something that CheapyD has to push you on faster and faster.

Also, the whole arcade trial glitching thing isn't that big of a deal to get annoyed about. It's not. It's crappy games that you can now get for free. So what?
Was it also bad when sites told you how to glitch the Just Cause 2 demo for infinite playtime?
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#81 morfar

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:13 PM

Hi

I totally and 100% agree with all you said in the episode about the whole XBLA glitch, and I really liked your discussion. However, i cant help but to feel a little irritated.

You guys regularly talk about how you abuse the 5x download feature on psn, to get extra copies for free. Sure, you dont tell people how to do it, but you talk about it on the show regularly(if not psn sharing, then .torrenting movies), which makes it more 'legit' to do - hey, if cheapyd is doing so, I can do it as well.

IMO that is kinda contradictory to the whole "support the gamecompanies" talk you gave us today.

And how do you justify dissing these websites talking about the glitch when you do the same on your show?

#82 volt1up

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:14 PM

^gamesharing isnt a "glitch" and has in the past been endorsed by official sony spokespeople. Totally different.


Although the tide does kind of seems to be turning with developers using workarounds to disable gamesharing.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:16 PM

Great show. Subbed to Call of Podcast after listening to this too.

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#84 Thomas96

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 10:47 PM

In response to the PS3 download issues, I'd just like to mention that every system has issues. When you're 360s were acting up, you were willing to put a towel over it and let it sit for an hour or two; you were willing to go through xbox after failing xbox before you got one that worked. If you were willing to go through all that to enjoy your xbox, then I don't see how its too much to be patient and let the PS3 complete its slow ass downloads of its Firmware. c'mon guys.... No one's complaining about having to pretend that NES carts were harmonicas in order to get them to work. We know its a flaw but we're not going to let those flaws keep us from enjoying the system.
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#85 Duck in a Pond

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:37 PM

What a great CAGcast!!!

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:16 AM

In response to the PS3 download issues, I'd just like to mention that every system has issues. When you're 360s were acting up, you were willing to put a towel over it and let it sit for an hour or two; you were willing to go through xbox after failing xbox before you got one that worked. If you were willing to go through all that to enjoy your xbox, then I don't see how its too much to be patient and let the PS3 complete its slow ass downloads of its Firmware. c'mon guys.... No one's complaining about having to pretend that NES carts were harmonicas in order to get them to work. We know its a flaw but we're not going to let those flaws keep us from enjoying the system.


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Don't beat the dead horse. If the PS3 issue had already been beaten to death there would be no need to talk about it. If you're an adult that comes home from a long day of work and has limited time to enjoy a game in the evening the PS3 downloads are a major issue. It becomes especially noticeable if you do the majority of your gaming on the 360.

If it makes you feel any better World of Warcraft has the same issue. It's impossible to play that casually because you get prompted for a 1+ GB download every now and then.
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#87 VivaGardner

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:51 AM

I just wanted to say hello and that I enjoy your shows. Keep up the good work.

#88 TheH2s

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 01:37 AM

I 100% agree with Shipwrecks reaction toward the XBLA glitch and the blogs posting the information. I mean I guess I knew those type of blogs would post just about anything they get their hands on but that seemed over the line. I expect this from Kotaku because they are slime but I guess I thought Joystiq was better than that.

#89 solipse

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 01:54 AM

I too was a bit surprised that Joystiq published the glitch. I'm not going to lie, I am tempted to try this glitch myself, but i like to think most other CAG members here, like myself, are genuine people and wouldn't support a way of "stealing" software.

Oh, and Estaban was a great addition as a supporting character.
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#90 lonesteban

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 02:08 AM

Hey everyone! Thanks for the positive feedback on my cagcast appearance. You made me feel like a million bucks! Cheapy, Wombat, and Shipwreck are the bestest hosts ever.