[quote name='its delicious']You have to know what you're getting into with Moxxie, because that can be a brutal DLC if you're any sort of completionist. It's about 10 hours of grinding grinding grinding, and that's if you do it the easy way. Way longer if you don't use a new character on the second controller...[/QUOTE]
Yeah even though I got it for $5 (400MSP) on sale, I still didn't think it was that good a value, but was willing to give it a chance since I have enjoyed the rest of borderlands so much. Moxxie DLC was pretty bad, pretty bad. Still not 100% sure why I slogged through the 20-round sessions on each arena, just to get the achievements. Maybe because I am so close to 100% on that game that I felt I could just knock them off.
[quote name='h3llbring3r']In a very short summary-
It is arguably a form of fair use. I can loan you a CD like I would this data disc. You could install a ripped digital copy of either directly to a volatile memory format. Should your HDD on your 360 (or the flash on your MP3 player) get wiped, crash or otherwise erased the media is gone; Since the disc was loaned to you there is no way you can recover it/use it without being loaned a disc again or buying it.
DMCA may say otherwise, but for many it's a gray area- a digital property rights frontier if you will.
If you take a library book and copy a large section on a xerox machine is that piracy (what about a small one or a hand copying a poem)? Was making a mix-tape in the 80's~ early 90's piracy? If you buy a used game is it piracy? If I play you a song over the phone is that piracy (there's some wacky BUT REAL legal precedent for you).[/QUOTE]
It may be a moral grey area for some, but it is pretty black and white as far as legality goes. If you loan me your CD and I copy it to my HD or burn it onto a CDR and give it back to you, there is little question that that is music piracy and illegal. The analogous situation is distributing your music files to others via the internet, for which we all know people have been successfully sued and tried. The same goes for this software. There is nothing wrong with selling the disc, but in doing so you are agreeing to delete any copies of the data you have and to stop using that content, not keeping a copy for yourself and passing it on. (note: I'm not even going to start to get into the mess regarding the recent court ruling regarding the legality of selling used software...)
If you xeroxed a book at the library you would be violating copyright infringement. There are special cases for this regarding fair use excerpts (only a small portion, not substantial sections or the whole book) and also for educational purposes. But in general this practice is illegal, and certainly none of those exceptions would really apply to passing around a Borderlands or Fallout 3 DLC disc.
Buying/selling a used game is not piracy because in doing so you are no longer utilizing your license to play the game, as you have sold it to another person. Selling a used game you have duplicated for yourself is piracy, and is the reason why no store takes back opened games as returns unless they are defective (to combat this piracy).
You don't have to agree with the principles in effect (I don't totally agree with all of them either) but it is pretty clear that installing the DLC discs to your HD, then selling the disc back to amazon/wherever and continuing to use the content you copied to your HD is illegal.