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#271 drktrpr1

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 08:25 PM

Now skyrim and ME3 don't have to compete for my attention.


You, sir, make a very good point.:applause:
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#272 Ryuukishi

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 08:33 PM

Looks like Gears 3 will rule my late 2011 gaming landscape uncontested.

Unless Final Fantasy XIII-2 actually comes out this year.

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#273 dmaul1114

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 08:37 PM

Lol I always get a laugh when people seem happy that we will have LESS games to play. You realize that it is only May, and a score of more delays are bound to follow? I wouldnt' be surprised if the only two AAA titles after Sept are Gears and the latest COD game. Q1 also means we will be waiting for a whole year from now.


It just depends on how much gaming time/interest you have.

I get 5-10 hours a week in tops on average so Gears and the latest CoD would keep me busy for a good while.

For instance, all I played from last fall to present off the top of my head are: Halo Reach, CoD Black Ops (still playing online), Dragon Age Ultimate and a couple XBLA games (X-men, Limbo and playing Outland now).

So basically I just need 5-7 games a year to play so I have no problems just getting a couple games per quarter that interest me.

Others are hardcore gamers and burn through more games and delays can suck and leave them with gaps where there's nothing new they're really stocked to play. So again, it just depends on your gaming habits.

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#274 Tha Xecutioner

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 08:48 PM

I figured that I would post about my progress so far, and also on the topic of today's announcement. The best way that I can go about doing this is to illustrate a few, short pages from The Diary of X :lol:

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 09:06 PM

It just depends on how much gaming time/interest you have.

I get 5-10 hours a week in tops on average so Gears and the latest CoD would keep me busy for a good while.

For instance, all I played from last fall to present off the top of my head are: Halo Reach, CoD Black Ops (still playing online), Dragon Age Ultimate and a couple XBLA games (X-men, Limbo and playing Outland now).

So basically I just need 5-7 games a year to play so I have no problems just getting a couple games per quarter that interest me.

Others are hardcore gamers and burn through more games and delays can suck and leave them with gaps where there's nothing new they're really stocked to play. So again, it just depends on your gaming habits.



Well I have an insane backlog, but I can certainly choose not to buy any more games this year regardless if they are released or not. It's still a big lose for 2011 to have lots of delays.

#276 dmaul1114

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 09:13 PM

Yeah, I guess. I just don't care. As long as I always have something I want to play, I don't care much about delays or whether one certain year was good year for gaming etc.

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#277 Salamando3000

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 09:15 PM

Yeah, I guess. I just don't care. As long as I always have something I want to play, I don't care much about delays or whether one certain year was good year for gaming etc.


Agreed. Not like there's anything I can do to force them to put the game out sooner. I'll play the games that're available and not lament the ones that aren't.


#278 KingBroly

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 11:36 PM

Looks like Gears 3 will rule my late 2011 gaming landscape uncontested.

Unless Final Fantasy XIII-2 actually comes out this year.


In Japan it will. Q1 for NA/EU. Just like FFXIII. I expect the same qualitative differences between the PS3 and 360 versions again.

I think this got delayed for 2 reasons:
#1 - EA is going to push Battlefield 3 insanely hard against Modern Warfare 3
#2 - POSSIBLE Wii 2 release
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#279 Arikado

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 12:10 AM

Fucking 7-10 more months to go...
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#280 Ryuukishi

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 12:25 AM

Don't ever change X.

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#281 chubbyninja1319

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 12:35 AM

Sure, I'm bummed, but I want a perfect game, so take the time to do it right. That's what I say.

Gives me more time to replay ME1 and ME2. Maybe I'll finally get my insanity run done!
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#282 Ryuukishi

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 12:17 PM

Oh God.

Mass Effect 3 tweaked for "larger market"

"One of the things that Ray Muzyuka and the team up in Edmonton have done is essentially step-by-step adjust the gameplay mechanics and some of the features that you'll see at E3 to put this in a genre equivalent to shooter-meets-RPG," he said, "and essentially address a much larger market opportunity than Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 began to approach.



Cue the cries of "sell out," "dumbed down," and "where's my RPG". This might get ugly.

Dudes in the Eurogamer comments are already cancelling their preorders. :lol:

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#283 Hell Monkey

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 12:29 PM

Well I'll admit I'm a bit worried now, but won't stop me from getting it.

#284 shrike4242

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 12:37 PM

How can it be "tweaked for 'larger market'" when they've already said they're expanding some of the RPG elements that were thinned out for ME2? :-s

ME2 was already "tweaked" for a larger market when they made it more "you got your RPG in my shooter" than the "you got your shooter in my RPG" they had with ME1.

I certainly hope we don't get "Call of Mass Effect 3" or "Mass Effect 3 of Duty", though I can't imagine Bioware would shoot themselves in the foot that much after all the praise and awards ME2 picked up.

I think whatever they demo at E3 will be something to watch closely.

#285 Hell Monkey

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 01:01 PM

I can't imagine Bioware would shoot themselves in the foot that much
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See Dragon Age 2 for said foot shooting.

#286 drktrpr1

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 01:32 PM

Hopefully they're just tweaking the shooting mechanics to make it a better shooter and not "dumbing down" the RPG elements any more. ME2 was about as dumbed-down as it gets.
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#287 Ryuukishi

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 01:33 PM

See Dragon Age 2 for said foot shooting.

If by "shooting in the foot" you mean "a flawed yet awesome game with many significant improvements from Origins" then... yeah. ;)

Well, if not on the Dragon Age series, at least all of us here can probably agree that Mass Effect 2 was both more accessible and more awesome than ME1, so I think BioWare deserves a little blind faith here, despite all the sky-is-falling talk that is sure to dominate the internet in short order.

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#288 Hell Monkey

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 01:47 PM

If by "shooting in the foot" you mean "a flawed yet awesome game with many significant improvements from Origins" then... yeah. ;)

Well, if not on the Dragon Age series, at least all of us here can probably agree that Mass Effect 2 was both more accessible and more awesome than ME1, so I think BioWare deserves a little blind faith here, despite all the sky-is-falling talk that is sure to dominate the internet in short order.


I will agree to disagree with you on DAII being better then DA:O.

Anyway onto Mass Effect. Yeah ME2 was incredible, only thing I didn't like was lack of ability to mess with armor for everyone on the squad. Still I think ME3 should be amazing and will have it pre-ordered soon as a CE is announced.

#289 RichMeisterMan

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 03:00 PM

Good news with the delay. I need more time to play through ME2 a few more times.

#290 shrike4242

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 03:25 PM

See Dragon Age 2 for said foot shooting.

So I've been told, which is why I'm not touching it until I get through DA1, DA: A and the DLC. That'll be a while at the rate I'm playing it, so they should have it all patched up by then.

If by "shooting in the foot" you mean "a flawed yet awesome game with many significant improvements from Origins" then... yeah. ;)

Well, if not on the Dragon Age series, at least all of us here can probably agree that Mass Effect 2 was both more accessible and more awesome than ME1, so I think BioWare deserves a little blind faith here, despite all the sky-is-falling talk that is sure to dominate the internet in short order.

I assumed I'd get a counterpoint view from Hell Monkey when you'd comment about DA2. :lol:

From what I've read, without any first-hand playing of said game, it seems like it would be better if they didn't seem to rush it out the door and had more time to bug-fix and polish it.

Yes, ME2 is more accessible than ME1. No question there. Did they trim some items out of it that I liked in the first game? Yes. Was it a huge issue? No.

I will agree to disagree with you on DAII being better then DA:O.

Anyway onto Mass Effect. Yeah ME2 was incredible, only thing I didn't like was lack of ability to mess with armor for everyone on the squad. Still I think ME3 should be amazing and will have it pre-ordered soon as a CE is announced.

From what we've seen so far, assuming it doesn't change in the meantime, it looks like we'll get a nice fusion between the customizations from ME1 and the faster gameplay of ME2.

Unless they turn it into a multiplayer mess, it's a day 1 purchase for me with whatever CE they toss out there.

#291 dmaul1114

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 05:11 PM

I'm perfectly fine if ME3 ends up even more shooter than RPG than ME2 personally. :D

My ideal game (not saying ME3 should be this, just what my ideal game would be) would basically be Gears of War gameplay with the questing, exploration, story and length of a WRPG.

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 05:36 PM

Oh God.

Mass Effect 3 tweaked for "larger market"




Cue the cries of "sell out," "dumbed down," and "where's my RPG". This might get ugly.

Dudes in the Eurogamer comments are already cancelling their preorders. :lol:


The important quote to get is who was speaking, and who was being talked to.

"Speaking during an investor Q&A today, Riccitiello explained that Mass Effect 3 will boast greater mass appeal than its two predecessors. "

When a CEO is talking to investors he is telling them what they want to hear does not mean anything beyond what we already heard is being changed.

#293 Ryuukishi

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 06:20 PM

When a CEO is talking to investors he is telling them what they want to hear does not mean anything beyond what we already heard is being changed.

Yup, and the people who are actually in a position to talk about gameplay, Casey Hudson and Christina Norman, have talked about increasing the amount of skill customization and stat crunching from ME2. I have no doubt there will be elements of the game that hardcore RPGers won't welcome, but all this "Gears Effect of Duty" talk is just silly.

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#294 shrike4242

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 06:42 PM

I'm perfectly fine if ME3 ends up even more shooter than RPG than ME2 personally. :D

My ideal game (not saying ME3 should be this, just what my ideal game would be) would basically be Gears of War gameplay with the questing, exploration, story and length of a WRPG.

No surprise with that opinion from you. :D

You might get your wish, you might not. Come back in Q1 2012.

Yup, and the people who are actually in a position to talk about gameplay, Casey Hudson and Christina Norman, have talked about increasing the amount of skill customization and stat crunching from ME2. I have no doubt there will be elements of the game that hardcore RPGers won't welcome, but all this "Gears Effect of Duty" talk is just silly.

I would take any information from those two to be far closer to the gospel truth than anything higher-level management have to say about ME3's direction.

I'm still thinking that we'll get the nice middleground in ME3 that we're all looking for as a nice compromise between ME1 and ME2.

Maybe they'll listen to Tha X and make the femShep the default option instead of Sheploo. :rofl:

#295 dmaul1114

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 06:50 PM

No surprise with that opinion from you. :D

You might get your wish, you might not. Come back in Q1 2012.


Oh I'm sure I'll love ME3 regardless.

And I wouldn't want to see it turn into my "ideal game" as that would alienate too much of the existing fanbase. That's just a game idea I hope some developer takes up in a new game down the road.

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#296 Arikado

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 07:09 PM

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I saw some people freaking out about what the big shots over at EA said about "appealing to a wider market." Like spid said, it's probably just buttering up the delay for the investors. I doubt with the extra 3-6 months they gained with the delay, they'll throw in a half-assed multiplayer component or strip down every RPG element already implemented. That would make the final product suffer. I'm guessing the delay was mainly for polish (they really wouldn't want another bugfest like DA2 was), plus a better, less crowded window for launch.
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Posted 05 May 2011 - 11:02 PM

I saw some people freaking out about what the big shots over at EA said about "appealing to a wider market." Like spid said, it's probably just buttering up the delay for the investors. I doubt with the extra 3-6 months they gained with the delay, they'll throw in a half-assed multiplayer component or strip down every RPG element already implemented. That would make the final product suffer. I'm guessing the delay was mainly for polish (they really wouldn't want another bugfest like DA2 was), plus a better, less crowded window for launch.


I think your right. At least I hope so...

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#298 chubbyninja1319

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Posted 05 May 2011 - 11:30 PM

The important quote to get is who was speaking, and who was being talked to.

"Speaking during an investor Q&A today, Riccitiello explained that Mass Effect 3 will boast greater mass appeal than its two predecessors. "

When a CEO is talking to investors he is telling them what they want to hear does not mean anything beyond what we already heard is being changed.


I believe this is the truth. I will keep the faith. They can't screw up ME. They just can't.
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#299 Arikado

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 02:46 AM

Couple of tweets from Christina Norman for those that think the sky is falling:

I've been asked if we increased our dev time for ME3 to dumb it down, if we were dumbing it down wouldn't we need less time?


Let me make this simple: we are improving both the RPG and Shooter aspects of ME3


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Posted 06 May 2011 - 04:19 AM

This is why I'm sticking to what Christina Norman and Casey Hudson say as the "real" truth about the development. They've not been shy about sharing details about the game, and keeping things under the vest when they're spoilerific. Good point about the "dumbing it down" taking less time than making it even better.

CEO and other C-level employees aren't people we should be listening to about the reasons for delays.