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#7651 raiden_86

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:20 PM

Quick question...as someone who has never played any of the ME games, would I be wise to start with ME1 or can I just jump in anywhere? Thanks!


yeah at least do 2, has a lot of story and awesome characters, b ut don't start with 3.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:21 PM

Okay cool. No problem starting with 1 was just curious. Thanks

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:35 PM

Mass Effect 1 is a great, great game, even being 5 years old. It plays differently than 2 & 3, but from a story standpoint, you must play it. You'll be glad you did. :)
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:14 PM

Mass Effect 1 is a great, great game, even being 5 years old. It plays differently than 2 & 3, but from a story standpoint, you must play it. You'll be glad you did. :)

Gotta agree with that assessment.

That and buy Bring Down The Sky DLC for ME1 and Lair Of The Shadow Broker DLC for ME2, at the minimum.

#7655 Only One Haze

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:59 PM

Awesome, will pick up ME1 and the DLC.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:17 PM

is the Levitathian dlc worth it? and also when does that other me3 single player dlc come out?
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#7657 Indignate

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:29 PM

I would only recommend BDTS because it's a dollar, otherwise it really isn't that pivotal or anything great for that matter.

As for another ME game, I would want to see something on a smaller scope when compared to the galaxy. You still have the races, abilities, terminology, but just set on a single location or something. It doesn't really make much difference in the places you can visit. I still haven't played ME3, but all the major locations in ME2 can very well be placed on a single planet if they wanted to, so you can still have variety and with it being on a smaller scale when compared to the trilogy, they can ignore stuff that they don't want to tackle (Reapers, Shepard).

No matter what, people are going to be pissy about what they do, but I'd rather them just get away from all the more established stuff and do something new in the same universe that I've grown to love.

Or just make a new game entirely. Whichever works.

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 01:26 AM

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 02:02 PM

is the Levitathian dlc worth it?


Leviathan is worth it if you play for the story and like some good set pieces. There's not a lot of action to it, but there is some good dialogue and it adds a cool angle to the legend of the Reapers that could be set up for the future of the series.


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Posted 20 October 2012 - 11:05 PM

What are you talking about Willis? Of course Leviathan had lots of action but yeah there is a heavy emphasis on detective figuring out mode, similar to how LotSB started out. The battles on that floating platform ship were pretty intense (there are a few other set pieces that incorporates combat as well), plus you get to rock an Atlas like walker. I'm a bit biased maybe but yes I def think Leviathan is worth it.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 04:36 AM

I mean, let's say it like it is, CAG or not, if you love-love Mass Effect, you already bought Leviathan. Yes, it's worth it. It's worth it for
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 05:42 PM

Lol true.

I just found this Honest Game Trailers ME3 Edition, I see it's a little old but first time seeing it. I was rolling on the floor.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 06:59 PM

I mean, let's say it like it is, CAG or not, if you love-love Mass Effect, you already bought Leviathan. Yes, it's worth it. It's worth it for

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 08:25 PM

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 12:12 AM

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 12:34 AM

Thanks to Bing I have yet to buy DLC for this game. In fact I'm thinking about buying some of the PSP's with my points from Bing.


Even if you're using Bing points to get MSP codes, it'll still register as a sale on their bottom line. And that's the issue I have with purchasing any more DLC for ME. I've accepted how Bioware chose to end the series, and I'm making the choice to not support their DLC add-ons full of content that should have been in the game at release (ie, Omega)

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:39 AM

True. The way I was looking at it is it was free for me. I do see your point and that no matter how I get it they still see it as a download so it is a sale. I have yet to play any of the DLC outside of the MP and what came with the CE, so I don't know how much of it seems like it should have been in from the start. I will say that the DLC that came with the CE felt like it should have been in. I had to look it up to make sure it was the DLC that I was playing. I still wonder how much of all of this is EA's doing and not Bioware. EA might have told them to cut things so it can be put out later as DLC.
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#7668 AvengedBacklog

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:59 AM

True. The way I was looking at it is it was free for me. I do see your point and that no matter how I get it they still see it as a download so it is a sale. I have yet to play any of the DLC outside of the MP and what came with the CE, so I don't know how much of it seems like it should have been in from the start. I will say that the DLC that came with the CE felt like it should have been in. I had to look it up to make sure it was the DLC that I was playing. I still wonder how much of all of this is EA's doing and not Bioware. EA might have told them to cut things so it can be put out later as DLC.


The CE content absolutely should have been in the game at release (especially since it was available as day 1 DLC) and there has been reference to a lot of Omega's content coming from cut files at release. I havent heard that about Leviathan to be fair. I'm sure EA was pulling some of the strings, but Bioware should have been able to stand up for the fanbase and say "No, we will not do this."

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:02 PM

There's a general misconception regarding "cut" content and placeholders. Considering that DLC is simply the norm in game development, it's now standard procedure to put in hooks for planned future content. Just because some lines of dialog and code were written doesn't necessarily mean the EA (or any other publisher) money machine forced extraction.

That said, I do agree that the the From Ashes DLC should have been part of the vanilla game experience. New development practices don't excuse everything. As a buyer of the CE on launch day though, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy to get something more than a patch and artbook.

I know that deep down, we all want game dev to revert to the golden days, but plain and simply (and unfortunately) it's never going to happen. DLC's not going anywhere.

I of course recognize and respect your stance on the matter. It's a bummer that the only way to really make a stand is to vote with your dollars, because unlike you, most people who claim to withhold buying DLC seldom actually do it. Regardless of the difference of our guns, I applaud you for sticking to yours.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:15 PM

There's a general misconception regarding "cut" content and placeholders. Considering that DLC is simply the norm in game development, it's now standard procedure to put in hooks for planned future content. Just because some lines of dialog and code were written doesn't necessarily mean the EA (or any other publisher) money machine forced extraction.

That said, I do agree that the the From Ashes DLC should have been part of the vanilla game experience. New development practices don't excuse everything. As a buyer of the CE on launch day though, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy to get something more than a patch and artbook.

I know that deep down, we all want game dev to revert to the golden days, but plain and simply (and unfortunately) it's never going to happen. DLC's not going anywhere.

I of course recognize and respect your stance on the matter. It's a bummer that the only way to really make a stand is to vote with your dollars, because unlike you, most people who claim to withhold buying DLC seldom actually do it. Regardless of the difference of our guns, I applaud you for sticking to yours.

Personally, I think From Ashes, Extended Cut and Leviathan should have been included in the base product and it would have been a better product for it.

From Ashes gives you the obvious squadmate addition and weapon addition that is pretty helpful to the game, plus the backstory is good in fleshing out the ME universe.

Extended Cut fixes for the most part the endings being abrupt and making no sense.

Leviathan does more of the same, adds in good backstory information to expand out the series a bit more than we had in the base game. Additional in-game items are also helpful.

I'd love it if they were part of the base game, though that would have delayed release by a number of months for obvious reasons.

ME and Dragon Age are the only game franchises that I pay full price for its DLC because I think it's worth the money. Any other franchise, I pay as cheap as price for its DLC as I can. Even Dragon Age, I picked up most of it on a discount, though ME, I didn't.

As much as I'd like DLC to disappear, it isn't going anywhere.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:26 PM

Personally, I think From Ashes, Extended Cut and Leviathan should have been included in the base product and it would have been a better product for it.

From Ashes gives you the obvious squadmate addition and weapon addition that is pretty helpful to the game, plus the backstory is good in fleshing out the ME universe.

Extended Cut fixes for the most part the endings being abrupt and making no sense.

Leviathan does more of the same, adds in good backstory information to expand out the series a bit more than we had in the base game. Additional in-game items are also helpful.

I'd love it if they were part of the base game, though that would have delayed release by a number of months for obvious reasons.

ME and Dragon Age are the only game franchises that I pay full price for its DLC because I think it's worth the money. Any other franchise, I pay as cheap as price for its DLC as I can. Even Dragon Age, I picked up most of it on a discount, though ME, I didn't.

As much as I'd like DLC to disappear, it isn't going anywhere.



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Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:29 PM

Developers are always going to be between a rock and a hard place with DLC. Make it cosmetic and unnecessary like weapon or costume packs, and fans demand something more substantial. Make something that feels substantial and necessary to the full experience, and fans complain that it should have been included in the base game. There's no magic formula for doing DLC the correct way and pleasing everyone.

In any case, as has been said, it's here to stay. I think the only thing to be done is evaluate each DLC release on a case by case basis and make a decision for yourself if it's worth your money or not. On balance I'm extremely glad that DLC exists, frankly. I've had lots of awesome experiences with DLC purchases and if something doesn't look like it's worth my money, well, no one's forcing me to buy it.

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#7673 The Crotch

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:28 PM

Developers are always going to be between a rock and a hard place with DLC. Make it cosmetic and unnecessary like weapon or costume packs, and fans demand something more substantial. Make something that feels substantial and necessary to the full experience, and fans complain that it should have been included in the base game. There's no magic formula for doing DLC the correct way and pleasing everyone.

What about expansion pack-style DLC? Awakening, Shivering Isle, that sort of thang.

Last I checked we still liked that.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:50 PM

What about expansion pack-style DLC? Awakening, Shivering Isle, that sort of thang.

Last I checked we still liked that.


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Posted 22 October 2012 - 06:06 PM

I was gonna say, but Crotch peered into my head and stole it from me before I could.


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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:13 AM

Any idea as to what the new MP character is going to be tomorrow?
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 01:13 AM

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 04:04 AM

It's Tuesday and no new character unlocks or new hazard maps. Weren't they supposed to come out on Monday or Tuesday?
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 04:14 AM

It's Tuesday and no new character unlocks or new hazard maps. Weren't they supposed to come out on Monday or Tuesday?


The balance changes along with the new character/maps were delayed until tomorrow, something about there being new balance changes that required a bit more testing, I'll drudge up where I read it real quick...

Edit: Quoted from one of the Bioware employees over on the ME3 MP Forums:

Sorry everyone, there are quite a few changes this week so they need a little bit more testing. We're hoping to get them out tomorrow morning. Below is a little preview of the changes.

- Some composition changes to Geth and Cerberus waves 9, 10, and Extraction on Bronze/Silver.
- Some Geth Hunter and Geth Prime nerfs across all difficulties.
- Some buffs to Drell and the original Turians.
- One of the more highly requested kits is being released...


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Posted 24 October 2012 - 04:41 AM

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