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#8581 AvengedBacklog

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:49 AM

Yeah...right now for a backlog I have:

-Borderlands 2
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-Red Dead Redemption DLC (finally finished up the main story this weekend)
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-Portal 2 (3 chapters or so of it left)

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:54 AM

Just finished Citadel. I didn't like the combat aspect of it too much, however everything is simply amazing. It was as nice of a DLC as I have ever played in a game. I wasn't this happy since the ending of final fantasy 4 when it was final fantasy 2 on the SNES

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:11 AM

For those of you that didn't romance Tali, here's her scene (really fantastic job by Ash Sroka):

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#8584 Arikado

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I thought the scene was awkward as hell at first, but it has grown on me a bit. After all, she's supposed to be awkward and nerdy. When I saw it in my game, I stared at my screen with my jaw dropped.
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Either way, she's got some great moments in the DLC.
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#8585 Ryuukishi

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 12:32 PM

The whole DLC was pretty much a Cain round to the fourth wall. :lol:

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:19 PM

Tell me about it...I have Dishonored, AC3 and Tomb Raider giving me dirty looks from the shelf.


Yeah, Dishonored is still in the shrink wrap, didn't even pick up AC3 as Brotherhood is still in its shrink wrap - nor have I picked up Revelations - still running through FarCry 3 and yeah the reason I didn't pick up Tomb Raider is because SCII is coming out tonight, don't need more games in shrink wrap - along with my copies of Vanquish, Lego Batman, Fallout NV, & Dead Island!!!

Yeah I might be MIA or you might find me on ME3 multiplayer the coming days since I'm taking a few vacation days. 8-)

Thanks for tagging the Tali romance, I think I had her on one profile but then after Shadow Broker lol went with Liara.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:33 PM

Yeah, Dishonored is still in the shrink wrap, didn't even pick up AC3 as Brotherhood is still in its shrink wrap - nor have I picked up Revelations - still running through FarCry 3 and yeah the reason I didn't pick up Tomb Raider is because SCII is coming out tonight, don't need more games in shrink wrap - along with my copies of Vanquish, Lego Batman, Fallout NV, & Dead Island!!!

Yeah I might be MIA or you might find me on ME3 multiplayer the coming days since I'm taking a few vacation days. 8-)

Thanks for tagging the Tali romance, I think I had her on one profile but then after Shadow Broker lol went with Liara.


AC 3's ending is trash, WAY worse than this game but for whatever reason, AC 3 gets a pass.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:42 PM

AC 3's ending is trash, WAY worse than this game but for whatever reason, AC 3 gets a pass.



Extreme truth. I thought AC3 as a whole was pretty shitty though. Liked the multiplayer more than the campaign, which I never would have expected to say if you asked me 3 years ago.

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#8589 Ryuukishi

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:50 PM

I'd never played an Assassin's Creed game before III, and I just found it kind of slow and boring. Not sure if they're all like that or if III is slower than the others. I've still got my copy so I'll probably go back and finish it sometime.

I heard people were disappointed in the ending, but I think it comes down to investment-- I'm sure there are some fans who are really into the story aspect of AC, but in general players are going to be way more invested in an RPG that's all about your personal character and story like ME.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:10 PM

I'd never played an Assassin's Creed game before III, and I just found it kind of slow and boring. Not sure if they're all like that or if III is slower than the others. I've still got my copy so I'll probably go back and finish it sometime.

I heard people were disappointed in the ending, but I think it comes down to investment-- I'm sure there are some fans who are really into the story aspect of AC, but in general players are going to be way more invested in an RPG that's all about your personal character and story like ME.


III is much slower than all the others except 1 but it's not like the others are Tomb Raider or Uncharted. 2 & Brotherhood are the best games of that series.

Yeah I was big into the AC story and have been told that's why I'm more pissed than others, but Ubi has lost someone that bought the CE of each previous AC game.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:24 PM

Yeah I was big into the AC story and have been told that's why I'm more pissed than others, but Ubi has lost someone that bought the CE of each previous AC game.


Ubisoft lost me with coming out with so many AC games back to back lol, spread it out! Mass Effect was spread out perfectly I thought, although at the end of ME2 I'd be arguing with my last statement haha.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:03 PM

I MISSED THE HAMSTER!!!

ah well, i'll get it on my next play through. I have about 170 Games on steam and like 10 or so on xbox to play yet... but i just keep playing ME. I plan to finish The Walking Dead soon, but otherwise, I am ok dabbling in other stuff while I play the game that truly makes me giddy.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:13 PM

Haha crap, I forgot about The Walking Dead, yeah I'm up to chapter 2 I think.

I also missed the hamster! lol That line was funny though, -paraphrasing here- "He's moving my stuff!"
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:24 PM

I thought the scene was awkward as hell at first, but it has grown on me a bit. After all, she's supposed to be awkward and nerdy. When I saw it in my game, I stared at my screen with my jaw dropped.

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Either way, she's got some great moments in the DLC.
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At this point, it's another stupid controversy that isn't really worth being disappointed over. I just want to enjoy the last ride.

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Another thing, I watched all of the other romances. Most of them were absolutely terrible. Seen Ashley's yet?
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The only other one I thought was pretty good was Jack's (because it was hilarious).
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#8595 Ryuukishi

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:39 PM

From what I've seen, Jack and Garrus seem to have received the best/most romance content in Citadel. That dancing scene practically made me gay for Garrus.


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#8596 chubbyninja1319

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:47 PM

I thought the way they handled Liara as an LI was perfect in the DLC. Liara has always come across as a bit distant in terms of showing affection towards Shepard. But in the DLC she is openly affectionate and it comes across as "we're an item" without anything gratuitous and I think it works wonderfully. Especially the very last dialogue with her before boarding which solicits Shepard's response that sums up the series
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:58 PM

From what I've seen, Jack and Garrus seem to have received the best/most romance content in Citadel. That dancing scene practically made me gay for Garrus.



Oh man, that techno tango track is too good. I do have to call plot hole though, because there's no way in hell Shepard's got those moves. CERBERUS.

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#8598 Ryuukishi

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:06 PM

So I guess no more DLC means no more armor/weapon packs or alternate appearance packs.

Really glad I preordered from Gamestop to get the N7 Defender armor since it looks so badass and as far as I'm aware hasn't been made available in any other way.

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#8599 dualedge2

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:16 PM

I thought the way they handled Liara as an LI was perfect in the DLC. Liara has always come across as a bit distant in terms of showing affection towards Shepard. But in the DLC she is openly affectionate and it comes across as "we're an item" without anything gratuitous and I think it works wonderfully. Especially the very last dialogue with her before boarding which solicits Shepard's response that sums up the series

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Yeah, but Shepard says that to everyone. Not just Liara :-P

My other problem is that Liara kept going "we're not going to win" throughout ME3. Gee, thanks for spoiling it.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 09:42 PM

I actually liked Miranda's romantic content in Citadel a bit more than anyone else's. I'm probably in the minority on this one.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:14 AM

Hmm I'll look at the link, it took me to the bioware social site so maybe you have to log in there as I was automatically logged in and at the download page.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 01:51 AM

I thought Liara's was good, as she is my main squeeze. It isn't so much tat she is negative Nancy about our chances of winning, but since she "turned dark" in taking over the role of Shadow Broker, was straight up with Shepard that she has changed. She, of all of the interests IMO, truly LOVES Shepard the most. The actions she took, and complete sacrifice of her morals and character to bring him back, is above and beyond anything the others did. From her events in the comics, through Shadow Broker, and to their last love scene, she wants nothing MORE than to win, but think she kept him grounded in reality that the odds were heavily against them, didn't want to go through all she did to lose him again, and often tried to throw barriers up (pun intended) to protect herself from being hurt.

The greatness of their dynamic to me was she was always in the background from ME1 the science nerd. She was always "young" and vulnerable. She grew the most (sans Jack) in finding their identity throughout the series. In Liara's case, she never came across to me as the type of person SHE though she would become. Hesitant to take power, yet wields it superbly. Loved fiercely and was very protective, yet always the most afraid of being hurt. Came from nothing but pursuit of knowledge to having infinite wisdom at her fingers.

Their DLC content about her piano song I thought was remarkable contextually, as it really tossed in there her very most protected and emotional memory. It showed that she was willing to share with Shepard the one thing that got her through her ME1 days as a scientist, through her fear, and made everything OK. That gesture to me, symbolized her ultimate opening up to him, dropping her barriers (PUN) and giving him access to her most sensitive and protected feelings.

I went through with Jack, Tali, Miranda... well everyone but Ashley (who is on this playthrough) and feel none of them carry the emotional weight and partnership that Liara did... but thats just me.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 04:40 AM

^ Very well said, 'Mason. I think that's what I like about Liara, she truly developed as a character through the trilogy. Even though it's not spelled out in-game, she did go farther than anyone for Shepard. It just happened in the comics (which everyone should read. Shame on you!).

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:04 AM

I thought Liara's was good, as she is my main squeeze. It isn't so much tat she is negative Nancy about our chances of winning, but since she "turned dark" in taking over the role of Shadow Broker, was straight up with Shepard that she has changed. She, of all of the interests IMO, truly LOVES Shepard the most. The actions she took, and complete sacrifice of her morals and character to bring him back, is above and beyond anything the others did. From her events in the comics, through Shadow Broker, and to their last love scene, she wants nothing MORE than to win, but think she kept him grounded in reality that the odds were heavily against them, didn't want to go through all she did to lose him again, and often tried to throw barriers up (pun intended) to protect herself from being hurt.

The greatness of their dynamic to me was she was always in the background from ME1 the science nerd. She was always "young" and vulnerable. She grew the most (sans Jack) in finding their identity throughout the series. In Liara's case, she never came across to me as the type of person SHE though she would become. Hesitant to take power, yet wields it superbly. Loved fiercely and was very protective, yet always the most afraid of being hurt. Came from nothing but pursuit of knowledge to having infinite wisdom at her fingers.

Their DLC content about her piano song I thought was remarkable contextually, as it really tossed in there her very most protected and emotional memory. It showed that she was willing to share with Shepard the one thing that got her through her ME1 days as a scientist, through her fear, and made everything OK. That gesture to me, symbolized her ultimate opening up to him, dropping her barriers (PUN) and giving him access to her most sensitive and protected feelings.

I went through with Jack, Tali, Miranda... well everyone but Ashley (who is on this playthrough) and feel none of them carry the emotional weight and partnership that Liara did... but thats just me.


I don't agree with everything you said, but I do respect your opinion. And that's fine. If that's what you believe, I won't try to change it.

Also, my favorite tracks from Citadel OST were The End & Farewell and Into the Inevitable.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 07:07 AM

I thought Liara's was good, as she is my main squeeze. It isn't so much tat she is negative Nancy about our chances of winning, but since she "turned dark" in taking over the role of Shadow Broker, was straight up with Shepard that she has changed. She, of all of the interests IMO, truly LOVES Shepard the most. The actions she took, and complete sacrifice of her morals and character to bring him back, is above and beyond anything the others did. From her events in the comics, through Shadow Broker, and to their last love scene, she wants nothing MORE than to win, but think she kept him grounded in reality that the odds were heavily against them, didn't want to go through all she did to lose him again, and often tried to throw barriers up (pun intended) to protect herself from being hurt.

The greatness of their dynamic to me was she was always in the background from ME1 the science nerd. She was always "young" and vulnerable. She grew the most (sans Jack) in finding their identity throughout the series. In Liara's case, she never came across to me as the type of person SHE though she would become. Hesitant to take power, yet wields it superbly. Loved fiercely and was very protective, yet always the most afraid of being hurt. Came from nothing but pursuit of knowledge to having infinite wisdom at her fingers.

Their DLC content about her piano song I thought was remarkable contextually, as it really tossed in there her very most protected and emotional memory. It showed that she was willing to share with Shepard the one thing that got her through her ME1 days as a scientist, through her fear, and made everything OK. That gesture to me, symbolized her ultimate opening up to him, dropping her barriers (PUN) and giving him access to her most sensitive and protected feelings.

I went through with Jack, Tali, Miranda... well everyone but Ashley (who is on this playthrough) and feel none of them carry the emotional weight and partnership that Liara did... but thats just me.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 02:28 PM

AC 3's ending is trash, WAY worse than this game but for whatever reason, AC 3 gets a pass.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:05 PM

Hmm I'll look at the link, it took me to the bioware social site so maybe you have to log in there as I was automatically logged in and at the download page.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:21 PM

Glad they decided to release the music for Citadel. I actually found myself wishing they would on my playthrough.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:48 PM

this weeks balance changes

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Commendation Pack Weapons
- The following weapons have been added to the ultra rare pool of cards
- N7 Valkyrie Assault Rifle
- N7 Eagle Pistol
- N7 Crusader Shotgun
- N7 Hurricane SMG
- N7 Valiant Sniper Rifle

Spectre Mastery
- Fixed an issue where medals earned could become stuck on completion

Squad Elite
- Added a new challenge to complete 25 matches on 'unknown enemy'
- Added a new challenge to complete 25 matches on 'unknown map'

Talon Omni-Bow Mechanics
- Base number of arrows fired increased from 3 to 5
- Omni-Bow max charge length decreased from 3 seconds to 0.35 seconds, so holding the heavy melee
button will cause the attack to release almost instantly

Elite Mercenary Passive Power
- Base charge regeneration cooldown decreased from 90 to 60 seconds
- Evolution 5 charge regeneration bonus increased from 50% to 100%

Omni-Bow Mastery Passive Power
- Base Omni-Bow damage bonus increased from 10% to 15%
- Rank 3 Omni-Bow damage bonus increased from 20% to 25%
- Evolution 1 Omni-Bow damage bonus increased from 30% to 35%
- Evolution 3 Omni-Bow killing spree damage bonus decreased from 50% to 25% but duration increased
from 8 seconds to 30 seconds
- Evolution 5 Omni-Bow damage bonus increased from 40% to 50%

Concussive Arrows Power
- Base number of arrows fired increased from 4 to 5 when you have this power active

Armor-Piercing Arrows Power
- Number of charges loaded per grenade increased from 2 to 3, so for each grenade used
you can fire 3 charges of Armor-Piercing arrows before going back to normal arrows
- Base damage reduced from 100 to 75
- Base number of arrows fired increased from 4 to 5 when you have this power active

Ancient Warrior Passive Power (Collector)
- Base Ascension Stance duration increased from 30 to 45 seconds
- Base Ascension Stance damage taken penalty reduced from 20% to 15%
- Evolution 5 Ascension Stance damage taken penalty reduced from 20% to 10%

Repair Matrix Power
- Base duration decreased from 15 to 8 seconds
- Base number of shields restored per second reduced from 150 to 75
- Evolution 1 damage reduction bonus decreased from 10% to 5%
- Evolution 6 damage reduction bonus decreased from 15% to 10%

Alliance Infiltration Unit
- Base melee damage reduced from 400 to 350
- Base heavy melee damage reduced from 750 to 650

Biotic Focus Power
- Evolution 6 damage reduction bonus increased from 15% to 20%
- Evolution 6 melee damage bonus increased from 20% to 30%

Poison Strike Power
- Base poison damage per second increased from 60 to 75

Adas Anti-Synthetic Assault Rifle
- Base damage increased from [161.9-202.4] to [178.1-222.6]

Geth Spitfire Assault Rifle
- Base damage increased from [56.5-70.6] to [62.2-77.8]

Venom Shotgun
- Damage multiplier when fully charged increased from 10% to 25%

Blood Pack Punisher SMG
- Base damage increased from [38.2-47.75] to [40.1-50.1]

Hex Shield Power
- Fixed a bug where enemy Geth Prime siege pulse projectiles could pass through the shield


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talon buffs, we'll see if he is usuable beyond cain spam

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#8610 Ryuukishi

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:48 PM

What's this I read about the singleplayer versions of the weapons being rebalanced to match the multiplayer versions?

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