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#61 ratzombie

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 01:18 AM

A weird question for you guys, do you play with the subtitles on or off? I usually leave them on because I have kids and can't always hear what the characters are saying. But, I hate the non-cinematic quality of the having subs.
My next playthrough, I'm going to turn them off. I think I should get some gaming headphones...

I have subtitles on for the Mass Effect games, as I like to make sure that I do not miss any dialogue.

#62 chubbyninja1319

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 02:45 AM

It's definitely NOT Grayson. Book spoilers here:

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I mentioned Grayson in the original ME3 leak thread.....knowing what we know now, I do not think it's Grayson. But, it would be certifiably badass if Kahlee Sanders is in ME3. Also.....I haven't read Retribution yet. Santa's bringing me that and I just finished Ascension.
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#63 Lord_Kefka

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 03:38 AM

Oh X, you and your ME threads. Just when the ME2 one was finally slowing and rolling to page 2, here we go again. "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in".

I realized that many of my picks below echoed X and Arikado, but of course we all have multiple files. This was my first Shepard though, the one where I made decisions without knowing consequences yet. So it felt like the most "honest" character and the one I'll start with and look upon as my canon Shepard.

Gender - Male Shepard, default face. Yes, I actually like his voice-acting
Background - Spacer/War Hero
ME1 Class - Soldier
ME1 Psychological Profile - Paragon (I think near max. I pumped a lot of points into that stat before I ever knew you could just gain it naturally and carry over into future playthroughs)
ME1 Level - 60 (after like 3 playthroughs...I think the first time you only can get to 50-something right?)
ME1 Love Interest - Liara (blue alien booty vs fugly xenophobe? duh.)
Rachni Queen - Alive
Wrex - Alive and kicking ass
Virmire Survivor - Kaidan. (gotta say, most of the ME1 teammates weren't all that interesting compared to ME2. He gets hate for that, but his backstory was better than Ashley's. Plus, I'm the Soldier, who needs her?)
Side Missions - 100%
Council Status - Alive
Human Rep - Anderson
ME1 DLC Missions - 100%, including the rage inducing high scores on Pinnacle Station

ME2 Class - Soldier
ME2 Psychological Profile - 100% Paragon (although I did punch that reporter lady on the Presidium)
ME2 Level - 30
Spectre Status - Re-instated
ME2 Love Interest - Miranda (dat ass!)
N7 Missions - 100% Complete
Collector Base Status - Destroyed (and Miranda told the Illusive man to shove it)
Normandy SR2 Crew Status - Alive (all)
ME2 Squadmate Status - Alive (all)
ME2 DLC Missions - 100% complete

The one thing I'll have trouble with is knowing which saves are which. I have at least 3 if not 4 game saves from ME1 and at least 2 (probably 3 before the next game hits) from ME2. It's tough to remember which Shepard save to use.

Oh, and again for those still discussing it that's not Grayson. The timeline for ME: Retribution will be before ME3. It's shortly after ME2 and I think Earth going to shit would get a mention. Plus all the stuff that happens to Grayson starts with him being
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OK, now they need to give us something to hold us over until ME3.

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#64 koheed

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 03:51 AM

I only played through each game once, but this is what I ended up with.

Gender - Male, default face
Background - Spacer/War Hero
ME1 Class - Soldier
ME1 Psychological Profile - Paragon (max)
ME1 Level - 50
ME1 Love Interest - Ashley
Rachni Queen - Alive
Wrex - Alive
Virmire Survivor - Ashley
Side Missions - 100% complete
Council Status - Alive
Human Rep - Anderson
ME1 DLC Missions - 0% complete

ME2 Class - Vanguard
ME2 Psychological Profile - Paragon (max)
ME2 Level - 30
Spectre Status - Re-instated
ME2 Love Interest - Miranda
N7 Missions - 100% complete
Collector Base Status - Destroyed
Normandy SR2 Crew Status - Alive (all)
ME2 Squadmate Status - Alive (all)
ME2 DLC Missions - 100% complete

#65 gbpackers94

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 03:53 AM

how do you find out those stats?
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#66 Tha Xecutioner

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 04:03 AM

Oh X, you and your ME threads. Just when the ME2 one was finally slowing and rolling to page 2, here we go again. "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in".

:lol:

When you're regarded as Game of Forever, it's page 1 or bust.

I realized that many of my picks below echoed X and Arikado...

I find absolutely nothing wrong with this.

The one thing I'll have trouble with is knowing which saves are which. I have at least 3 if not 4 game saves from ME1 and at least 2 (probably 3 before the next game hits) from ME2. It's tough to remember which Shepard save to use.

You're telling me! It takes me forever to find the exact Shepard I'm looking for whenever I feel the urge to pick up where I left off with a certain character :bomb:

how do you find out those stats?

Memory.

#67 David Hibiki

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 04:17 AM

My save file got deleted awhile back.
You know the only good thing about that?
Forces me to re-beat ME1 and ME2. Not that that's a bad thing lol.

I plan on re-beating ME1 and ME2 the weeks before ME3 is out. Hope im not the only one.

#68 shrike4242

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 04:58 AM

Here's my "first" Shepard for ME1 + ME2, which was limited to Level 50 due to first pass through the game:
Difficulty: Normal
Gender - Default face / Male
Background - War Hero / Spacer
ME1 Class - Vanguard
ME1 Psychological Profile - Paragon (maximum)
ME1 Level - 50
ME1 Love Interest - Liara
Rachni Queen - Alive
Wrex - Alive
Virmire Survivor - Ashley
Side Missions - 100% complete
Council Status - Alive
Human Rep - Anderson
ME1 DLC Missions - 50% complete (100% complete for BDTS, 0% for Pinnacle Station)

Difficulty: Normal
ME2 Class - Vanguard
ME2 Psychological Profile - Paragon (maximum)
ME2 Level - 30
Spectre Status - Re-instated
ME2 Love Interest - Tali
N7 Missions - 100% completed
Collector Base Status - Destroyed
Normandy SR2 Crew Status - All Alive
ME2 Squadmate Status - All Alive
ME2 DLC Missions - 100% completed

I'll placeholder this for my second pass through ME1 + ME2, which isn't done in ME2 yet:
Difficulty: Hardcore
Gender - Default face / Female
Background - Ruthless / Earth Born
ME1 Class - Adept
ME1 Psychological Profile - Renegade (maximum)
ME1 Level - 54
ME1 Love Interest - Liara
Rachni Queen - Dead
Wrex - Alive
Virmire Survivor - Kaiden
Side Missions - 100% completed
Council Status - Dead
Human Rep - Udina
ME1 DLC Missions - 65% completed (100% complete for BDTS, 33% complete for Pinnacle Station)

Difficulty: Hardcore
ME2 Class - Adept
ME2 Psychological Profile - Renegade
ME2 Level - TBD
Spectre Status - Not re-instated
ME2 Love Interest - TBD
N7 Missions - TBD
Collector Base Status - TBD
Normandy SR2 Crew Status - TBD
ME2 Squadmate Status - TBD
ME2 DLC Missions - TBD

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#69 Ryuukishi

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 06:43 AM

Gender - Male
Background - Earthborn/War Hero
ME1 Class - Vanguard
ME1 Psychological Profile - Paragon
ME1 Level - around 35?
ME1 Love Interest - Ash
Rachni Queen - Dead
Wrex - Alive
Virmire Survivor - Ash
Side Missions - not too many
Council Status - Dead
Human Rep - Anderson
ME1 DLC Missions - none

ME2 Class - Engineer
ME2 Psychological Profile - Paragon
ME2 Level - 30
Spectre Status - Reinstated
ME2 Love Interest - Jack
N7 Missions - All
Collector Base Status - Destroyed
Normandy SR2 Crew Status - Max survived
ME2 Squadmate Status - All survived
ME2 DLC Missions - Might skip Overlord and Firewalker

I'm actually currently replaying my "canon" ME2 character as an Engineer instead of a Vanguard, but keeping my story choices the same.

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#70 RichMeisterMan

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 03:06 PM

They can go ahead and add a multiplayer, but regardless of how things play out I am just going to look at it like a red headed step child and wonder, "I wonder what could have been added or made better in the single player had they not dedicated resources to the multiplayer?" I'll especially be thinking this if the game is at all short.

In the end this game's multiplayer will suffer a fate at the hands of Halo and Call of Duty in that it's not those games so it really doesn't have a chance.

So yeah...my philosophy is just to scrap the multi and dedicate everything to the single player.

#71 cgarb84

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 04:43 PM

They can go ahead and add a multiplayer, but regardless of how things play out I am just going to look at it like a red headed step child and wonder, "I wonder what could have been added or made better in the single player had they not dedicated resources to the multiplayer?" I'll especially be thinking this if the game is at all short.

In the end this game's multiplayer will suffer a fate at the hands of Halo and Call of Duty in that it's not those games so it really doesn't have a chance.

So yeah...my philosophy is just to scrap the multi and dedicate everything to the single player.


Yep this is how I feel about Dead Space 2 as well. Does anyone REALLY want or intend to play the MP in these games? I mean REALLY?
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#72 MSUHitman

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 05:50 PM

Gender - FemShep
Background - Earthborn/War Hero (that's the Skyllian Blitz one, right?)
ME1 Class - Infiltrator
ME1 Psychological Profile - Paragon 100%, 15% Renegade
ME1 Level - 59 when transferred to ME 2.
ME1 Love Interest - Liara
Rachni Queen - Dead
Wrex - Dead
Virmire Survivor - Ashley
Side Missions - 100%
Council Status - Alive
Human Rep - Anderson
ME1 DLC Missions - 100%, including the rage inducing high scores on Pinnacle Station (which caused me not to get the hardcore achievement.)

ME2 Class - Infiltrator
ME2 Psychological Profile - 100% Paragon, 40% Renegade (love those cutscene prompts)
ME2 Level - 30
Spectre Status - Re-instated
ME2 Love Interest - Liara
N7 Missions - 100% Complete
Collector Base Status - Destroyed (and Miranda told the Illusive man to shove it)
Normandy SR2 Crew Status - Alive (all)
ME2 Squadmate Status - Alive (all)
ME2 DLC Missions - 100% complete

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#73 MSUHitman

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 05:51 PM

Yep this is how I feel about Dead Space 2 as well. Does anyone REALLY want or intend to play the MP in these games? I mean REALLY?


Uncharted 2 and AC: Brotherhood did it well, Bioshock 2 did not.

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#74 Anexanhume

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 06:01 PM

OP, this helps:

http://social.biowar...3/index/5422342

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ME3 has been confirmed! Let's continue the hunt for confirmed features ! This is basically a repost of the first, older thread, with a few new confirmed features. Feel free to suggest any new, but please provide a source.

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  • ME3 will end the Shephard story arc. [1]
    ME3'suniverse is going to be darker, but funnier at the same time. [2]
    The mining mini-game won’t be abandoned completely. [3]
    The import feature will be present, with more variables than ME2 had. [4]
    'Cheating' on your ME1 LI might have negative repercussions in ME3 [10]
    Shepard is going to rally the various races of the galaxy against the Reapers. [12]
    The Reapers have invaded Earth and Commander Shepard will have it back.[12]
    London will be featured. [14](New!)
    ME3 has been set for a Holiday 2011 release [14] (New!)
    ME3 will be released simultaneously on the PC, XBOX360 and PS3. [15](Hot!)
    If your Shepard dies in ME2, you won't be able to import your save in ME3.[16] (New!)

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    [LIST]
  • ME3 to maximize both quality and commercial success [6]
    Uber-Collector’s edition will come with a special bonus item. [source rip]
    More RPG features and complex enemies will be included. [7]
    Conversations will be more cinematic. [9]
    Vehicle Based Exploration might return in ME3. [11]


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  • LotSB may have set the standards for ME3, gameplay and dialogue-wise.
    ME3 will have a multiplayer component. [13]
    ME3 might have 3D [17] (Hot!)




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Keep in mind that nothing "quoted" is 100% guaranteed. We are still developing the game and features change, we adapt, refine and improve. Just because you think it is there now based off an old interview (or even a new one) that doesn't mean it will or will not be in teh game.

I only point this out so people don't say "But I saw in a thread that "X" feature was confirmed". NOTHING is confirmed until we ship.




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#75 shrike4242

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 06:06 PM

Nice post from the Bioware forums. Made me think of a few questions related to the above:

* If you "cheat" on Liara ME2 with her as your love interest in ME1, and you've "reconciled" with her during Lair Of The Shadow Broker, does it mitigate the "negative" effect they're mentioning above?
* In the same vein, does "cheating" on Liara with Tali in ME2 make it less of a "negative" situation than any of the ME2-only NPCs?
* If you have a dead Shepard at the end of ME2, do you start over with a "fresh" Shepard in ME3 without any carryover to ME2? How do they have Shepard dead in ME2 and the main star in ME3? Does Cerberus bring him back again via Lazarus in this case?

#76 Ryuukishi

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 06:10 PM

* If you have a dead Shepard at the end of ME2, do you start over with a "fresh" Shepard in ME3 without any carryover to ME2? How do they have Shepard dead in ME2 and the main star in ME3? Does Cerberus bring him back again via Lazarus in this case?

It will be like starting with the default Shepard in ME2 if you didn't have an ME1 save to import. I'm not even sure if ME2 creates a clear save at all during the Shepard dies ending, but if it does, ME3 will not recognize that file as a valid ME2 clear save. There's no "world import."

The interesting thing will be to find out what BioWare considers Shepard's "canon" behavior in ME2. Probably he continues to be a Renegade douche.

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#77 shrike4242

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 06:16 PM

It will be like starting with the default Shepard in ME2 if you didn't have an ME1 save to import. [Does ME2 even create a clear save during the Shepard dies ending?]

The interesting thing will be to find out what BioWare considers Shepard's "canon" behavior in ME2. Probably he continues to be a Renegade douche.

Since I've read that the "default" choices you pick in ME2 without a ME1 import go that way, I'd assume something similar in ME3. I guess they'll do something else backstory wise for a new ME3 character that covers ME1 and ME2, since they're going back to ME1 plot points with what they've talked about with ME3. I guess they'd ignore Shepard "dying" in ME2 in that way, or how would they cover continuity in the story?

I'd imagine it makes some other kind of save that isn't a "we won" save if Shepard dies in ME2 at the end. I'm sure they're covering something there for ME3.

Here's another point that I was thinking of that hasn't been discussed in ME2 that may or may not have anything to cover for MEe:
What happens if you go the Renegade route in regards to Samara vs Morith and have Morith kill Samara? Do you have the asari pissed off at you for allowing / helping one of their Justicars get killed?

#78 Ryuukishi

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 06:25 PM

Depending on how the PS3 motion comic feature is received, I wonder if ME3 will have any kind of "create a custom Shepard" feature for new games. Probably not, but it would be nice to be able to try out all of the potential backstories without having to actually play all the way through ME1 and ME2.

The one thing I hope in regards to all these choices is that there's not going to be one perfect set that's necessary for the best ending. "Killed the Rachni queen? Sorry, it's impossible for you to get the good ending, go back to ME1 and try again." I mean, of course there should be some critical mass of unwise choices that sets you up to get screwed, but I hope there is some room to maneuver, with enough good choices balancing out the bad ones.

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#79 shrike4242

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 06:39 PM

Depending on how the PS3 motion comic feature is received, I wonder if ME3 will have any kind of "create a custom Shepard" feature for new games. Probably not, but it would be nice to be able to try out all of the potential backstories without having to actually play all the way through ME1 and ME2.

The one thing I hope in regards to all these choices is that there's not going to be one perfect set that's necessary for the best ending. "Killed the Rachni queen? Sorry, it's impossible for you to get the good ending, go back to ME1 and try again." I mean, of course there should be some critical mass of unwise choices that sets you up to get screwed, but I hope there is some room to maneuver, with enough good choices balancing out the bad ones.

I think whatever we get in the PS3 motion comic for ME2, it'll be something similar for ME3. I guess we'll see how well that works in January when ME2 comes out for PS3.

I think the "checklist" of options they provided in the earlier post should get you somewhat towards an "easier" endgame in ME3 with the Reapers, though I can't see how you'd end up being uber-screwed if you killed off the Rachni, had Wrex die on Virmire, and so-on.

I'm betting that each of the "checklist" options will work towards some possible scenario along the way towards the endgame, though ME3 may have some type of "hail Mary" scenarios to balance that out.

I'm sure the plot points they brought up will make a difference, though what the difference is remains to be seen.

#80 Ryuukishi

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 06:54 PM

One thing I would like to see are some unpredictable and even counterintuitive outcomes, like, maybe Wreav proves to be a more human-friendly leader than Wrex would have been, or Morinth is more effective against the Reapers than Samara, rather than just Paragon = win, Renegade = fail across the board.

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#81 Lord_Kefka

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 04:06 AM

One thing I would like to see are some unpredictable and even counterintuitive outcomes, like, maybe Wreav proves to be a more human-friendly leader than Wrex would have been, or Morinth is more effective against the Reapers than Samara, rather than just Paragon = win, Renegade = fail across the board.


See, I take the renegade option to be more "at all costs" than fail. So let's say for example that Wrex leads the Krogan in a giant final battle with the Reapers. Wrex has united the clans as much as he can, but he leaves some pockets behind for breeding and protection. Less Krogan to help you, a little harder battle. But even with heavy losses, Wrex and the Krogan race (in general) survive.

The flip side could be the Krogan tribes all step forward for a giant fight. You decide to use them like infantry, throwing them to their deaths at the hands of Reapers. They buy you extra time to figure out the grand finale. The galaxy wins, but the Krogan never recover their numbers and are on the very brink of extinction. But hey, the universe is safe right? Anything it takes.

I hope to see something like this in ME3, and that could be applied to races like the Rachni and the Quarian vs Geth confrontation.

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#82 jab1235

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 05:40 AM

just finished mass effect, very confusing. played mass effect 2 earlier this year and its most deffinitly my favorite game at the moment. i'll probably play both games again next year, just to get ready. i can't wait!

#83 shrike4242

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 07:09 AM

just finished mass effect, very confusing. played mass effect 2 earlier this year and its most deffinitly my favorite game at the moment. i'll probably play both games again next year, just to get ready. i can't wait!

How was it confusing, if you don't mind me asking?

#84 chubbyninja1319

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 01:04 AM

Are there any good, clean pictures from the trailer? I'd like to have some as a pc background.
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#85 RedRingOfDeath

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 01:33 AM

ARGH, the wait is killing me!

I just got done with my 3rd playthrough of ME2 recently and it left me in a bit of a lull... All I can do now is wait for the 3rd installment, and it is killing me.

Especially since we are now on Earth, and its burning? FTW!?

#%&*!

#86 Tony208

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Posted 17 December 2010 - 02:50 AM

omfg the first trailer is out so badass can't wait

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#87 koheed

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:25 AM

Tried to pre-order the collector's edition at GameStop today. I was told the SKU wasn't in the system yet, but I could plop down my $10 and just switch it to the collector's edition when it was announced. I decided to hold on to my $10.

#88 chubbyninja1319

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:58 AM

The thought of the ME3 collectors edition brings me untold and inappropriate joy. I'm a certifiable sucker for LE/CE's, especially Bioware's.
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Posted 18 December 2010 - 03:45 PM

The thought of the ME3 collectors edition brings me untold and inappropriate joy. I'm a certifiable sucker for LE/CE's, especially Bioware's.



Same here, I wish I could find the 1st one(didn't get an xbox until last year).

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#90 chubbyninja1319

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 05:14 PM

I've been hunting down the LE Of ME1. I actually bought it once for $40, then sold it on ebay (doh!). It can be had for around $60 on ebay now. I just don't want to spend that much (true CAG).

I also sold the Dragon Age CE, which I'm now regretting.
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