Final Fantasy XIII-2 Announced. Coming out 2011 in Japan

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Update: A couple of details: The game is releasing this year in Japan. Motomu Toriyama is serving as the director.


Square Enix seemed to have a few surprises up their sleeves for their latest conference in Japan. Indeed they did. The company has announced Final Fantasy XIII-2. The game is in the works for both the PS3 and 360. More details soon.
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Sweet. Another RPG to get this year, if it makes it to North America that is.

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XIII-2 to be more Dark and Mysterious!
 
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As long as this isn't like FFX (a good RPG) and FFX-2 (a game for tweens), I'm up for it. I just hope it's a bit more open ended and the characters don't have to go through the whiney/bitchy stage again (I'm looking at you Hope and Lightening).
 
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Look at how big Lightning's bust is. Even though I am a heterosexual man, I don't appreciate sexualizing everything. If I did, I would play Bayonetta, and I would really much prefer Lightning from XIII
 
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[quote name='panzerfaust']So a full year after it gets released in Japan?

...really?[/QUOTE]

I think it means Winter 2011.
 
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Look at how big Lightning's bust is. Even though I am a heterosexual man, I don't appreciate sexualizing everything. If I did, I would play Bayonetta, and I would really much prefer Lightning from XIII[/QUOTE]

Well, she's not getting the Yuna makeover, so it's not that extreme. Her XIII-2 design is rather stunning IMO. I don't know what's with Square and feathers but I dig it.

I just wonder how ridiculous the plot will be that gives them the excuse to have her wear that.
 
Blah... I wonder how firm their release date will be this time. I bought FF13 on release date and I still haven't finished the game. I think I'm on chapter 9 or 10, but I stopped playing because of other game releases such as Super Street Fighter 4, Bad Company 2, God of War III, etc. I personally think the game is okay, but I understand the amount of negative reviews it got though. I'll wait for the game to get cheap unless there are good reviews, but I doubt it... FF Versus 13... now that is another story.
 
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Look at how big Lightning's bust is. Even though I am a heterosexual man, I don't appreciate sexualizing everything. If I did, I would play Bayonetta, and I would really much prefer Lightning from XIII[/QUOTE]

Dude, seriously, it's an artist's concept and it's not even all that clear. Plus, if those are big titties, I've got a bridge for you.
 
I'm definitely interested, but the game (in my opinion) felt like a giant deja vu to FFX...and now this news. This is random but I want more stories from Ivalice.

The only complaint I have with the artwork is having two seperate people. My assumption why they did it is cause its a genuine sequel and perhaps there is a doppelgänger motif.

They should really gearing up to releasing Versus instead of just announcing another FF 13 spin off.
 
Am I the only one that actually liked FFX-2? I like a game that actually includes stuff because it's fun, rather than a game that doesn't include something that's fun because it kills the immersion. I liked all the minigames, all the quirky sidequests, and all the "fluff", no matter how far-fetched it seemed.

And yes, I liked the outfits, too.
 
Wish I didn't watch the trailer, spoiled the end of the original for me. Not like I didnt have a good idea that's what was gonna happen though. I'm still at Chapter 10. Enjoying FFXIII even if it isn't as good as VI, VII, VIII, or X. Closer to XII which I enjoyed the combat and story less but world more.
 
[quote name='Vinny']I figured that some guy at the end would say something along the lines of "Final Fantasy XIII-2... now with more skin and twice as many feathers!"[/QUOTE]

They should just have us kill alot of birds. ;)
 
[quote name='madcatz1999']Am I the only one that actually liked FFX-2? I like a game that actually includes stuff because it's fun, rather than a game that doesn't include something that's fun because it kills the immersion. I liked all the minigames, all the quirky sidequests, and all the "fluff", no matter how far-fetched it seemed.

And yes, I liked the outfits, too.[/QUOTE]

I enjoyed it, but not as much as X. It felt like a girls game, but I didn't mind since it sort of seemed interesting to me at the time. I never finished the game though. Was right at the last boss, but just quit since it was just "too much" for me.


[quote name='ferant316']Wish I didn't watch the trailer, spoiled the end of the original for me. Not like I didnt have a good idea that's what was gonna happen though. I'm still at Chapter 10. Enjoying FFXIII even if it isn't as good as VI, VII, VIII, or X. Closer to XII which I enjoyed the combat and story less but world more.[/QUOTE]

Same here, but if my memory serves me right, I will forget all about it when I actually finish the game.

I'm actually interested in what the story is going to be for this one. Hopefully it doesn't have to deal with changing clothes again. Once is enough.
 
So does anyone think this new FFXIII-2 will have some towns and traditional FF gameplay, or will it be just an extended FFXIII?
 
The premise doesn't really look like it will have anything to do with towns, a traditional FF is the last thing I expect here.

[quote name='ferant316']Wish I didn't watch the trailer, spoiled the end of the original for me. Not like I didnt have a good idea that's what was gonna happen though. I'm still at Chapter 10. Enjoying FFXIII even if it isn't as good as VI, VII, VIII, or X. Closer to XII which I enjoyed the combat and story less but world more.[/QUOTE]

The final encounter is incredibly epic, it didn't spoil that so don't worry =p
 
[quote name='jh6269']So does anyone think this new FFXIII-2 will have some towns and traditional FF gameplay, or will it be just an extended FFXIII?[/QUOTE]

I think it will be just as linear as XIII was. If it isn't, I'd think it'd be more like XII was.

[quote name='FroMann']I want Versus XIII, not XIII-2.[/QUOTE]

That's still quite awhile off, the more time the better though, it'll be one polished product.
 
[quote name='madcatz1999']Am I the only one that actually liked FFX-2? I like a game that actually includes stuff because it's fun, rather than a game that doesn't include something that's fun because it kills the immersion. I liked all the minigames, all the quirky sidequests, and all the "fluff", no matter how far-fetched it seemed.

And yes, I liked the outfits, too.[/QUOTE]

I liked the combat, my only gripes with it were being forced to follow an FAQ to get 100% and the best ending, there was no way anyone was going to get the best ending on the first try, and I don't play RPG's 2-3 times since I don't have time to do so (same with RPG's with multiple endings) so that was a big misstep for me.

Also getting the ultimate spheres was annoying as well, and some weren't as cool as they could have been, what I did like was the return of the active time battle system, for me that was the best part of the game, overall I thought it was a nice side story.

My question is though, they are releasing all of these sequels to 10 and 13, but the one that would make them so much money they'd have to build a money bin (FF7-2 or FF7-remake) they ignore...I guess Squenix doesn't like money?
 
Yes, a VII remake is guaranteed money. Realistically though, the sales wouldn't be much higher, if at all, compared to the 5-6 copies million XIII just reeled in.

You take that into account, and then realize how much of both monetary and creative resource you'd be wasting on creating a game that's already been made, and you get a developer that knows very well what it's doing.
 
The games cost money to develop, you know. There's no guarantee you fanboys will turn them a profit.

I still don't get it. If it's so great, why not just download it off PSN and play it?

It's kind of like asking a band to go back and record one its hit albums again. You won't have to rewrite the songs, what's the big deal?
 
[quote name='moothemagiccow']The games cost money to develop, you know. There's no guarantee you fanboys will turn them a profit.
[/QUOTE]

Console Final Fantasies always turn a profit. :roll:
 
I never got to play XII, but I do know that it was another FF that diverged from the typical FF game and divided the fans... I liked XIII alright, but there was a bit of exploration missing from it. I think my favorite out of them all was FF IV on the SNES, and then VII (I only had a NES, SNES, and then FF went to the PS1, and it wasn't until VII until I'd play another FF).

I just wonder if maybe the tech isn't good enough to get the graphics and all the story into one game. Maybe they'd need to have 2 blu-rays or something and it would be too expensive. Still, I think if they're so eager to experiment, they should try to make a FF game that's more like Mass Effect 2, but will less customization of the main characters and still have the guns, swords, magic and stuff.
 
FF 12 was a FUN game. The story and the characters were stupid, but the battle system was awesome and the hunt sidequests were more fun than the main storyline.
 
[quote name='uncle5555']My question is though, they are releasing all of these sequels to 10 and 13, but the one that would make them so much money they'd have to build a money bin (FF7-2 or FF7-remake) they ignore...I guess Squenix doesn't like money?[/QUOTE]

There was Advent Children, Crisis Core, and Dirge of Cerberus, so it's not like the completely abandoned the FF7 world. While a sequel isn't impossible, they'd still need to create new art assets for everything. Whereas with this new FF13, they can reuse a lot of material from the first game.

As far as the remake is concerned, it was said last year in an interview that to do a remake at the graphical level of FF13 would take 3-4 times as long as it took to make FF13. Link

[quote name='moothemagiccow']FF 12 was a FUN game. The story and the characters were stupid, but the battle system was awesome and the hunt sidequests were more fun than the main storyline.[/QUOTE]

I put about 15 hours into FF12, but at that point I was just bored with it. I think I levelled my characters too much or something, as I was able to just run around and kill everything with no effort on my part.
 
[quote name='moothemagiccow']FF 12 was a FUN game. The story and the characters were stupid, but the battle system was awesome and the hunt sidequests were more fun than the main storyline.[/QUOTE]

I thought the story was amazing 1/3~1/2 through, then fell apart immediately. Apparently the writer had to drop out about halfway into the development of the game due to illness, makes sense. Had Basch been the main character and the political intrigue angle played more prominently, it would have been my favorite in the series by far.
 
[quote name='Salamando3000']There was Advent Children, Crisis Core, and Dirge of Cerberus, so it's not like the completely abandoned the FF7 world. While a sequel isn't impossible, they'd still need to create new art assets for everything. Whereas with this new FF13, they can reuse a lot of material from the first game.

As far as the remake is concerned, it was said last year in an interview that to do a remake at the graphical level of FF13 would take 3-4 times as long as it took to make FF13. Link[/QUOTE]

I think most people would be more than happy with SquareEnix using FFXII's graphics engine with an HD/texture treatment for a FFVII remake. I would, at least.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']Yes, a VII remake is guaranteed money. Realistically though, the sales wouldn't be much higher, if at all, compared to the 5-6 copies million XIII just reeled in.

You take that into account, and then realize how much of both monetary and creative resource you'd be wasting on creating a game that's already been made, and you get a developer that knows very well what it's doing.[/QUOTE]

But the thing is the scenarios already written, the battle system is already there, same for music, I mean other than polishing it up with high res backgrounds (the character models are already done, since they can just use the ones from Advent Children) re-record the music (I'm not sure if an orchestration has been done or not), and updating it, I don't see it being as time intensive as has been let on.

So I politely disagree with the assessment that it's a time and money sink, because a lot of that work is already done. I mean they could add like an advent children playable section as well as a playable section to the epilogue, but honestly even though how much I read on people complaining on how overrated it is, they'd buy it, just because it is what it is.


[quote name='Salamando3000']There was Advent Children, Crisis Core, and Dirge of Cerberus, so it's not like the completely abandoned the FF7 world. While a sequel isn't impossible, they'd still need to create new art assets for everything. Whereas with this new FF13, they can reuse a lot of material from the first game.

As far as the remake is concerned, it was said last year in an interview that to do a remake at the graphical level of FF13 would take 3-4 times as long as it took to make FF13.
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I understand that they've done things to continue the story (even though another game would have been better, considering all the time and effort that went into those efforts) Now as far as it taking 9 years for them to make, I'm a bit skeptical of that, considering 13-2 is going to be out by years end, and unless they recycle a lot of the areas like they did in 10-2, their excuse doesn't hold up as well.

I think they're more hesitant than anything else that if it's not done to some unrealistic expectation then people will complain and they don't want to bear the brunt of all that criticism. It would be nice just to see them do something right for a change, especially since it is there flagship title, yet hasn't felt like it in a long time.
 
[quote name='Feeding the Abscess']I thought the story was amazing 1/3~1/2 through, then fell apart immediately. Apparently the writer had to drop out about halfway into the development of the game due to illness, makes sense. Had Basch been the main character and the political intrigue angle played more prominently, it would have been my favorite in the series by far.[/QUOTE]

Matsuno did all of the story, but wasn't able to continue with his director duties due to mental exhaustion and had to ultimately leave the company in the same capacity he was there before (even though he is working with them in some capacity for the Tactics Orge PSP remake) so maybe since they are more open to resurrecting some old franchises, he can get to work on a VS sequel that is sorely needed.

But I enjoyed FF12 as well, it was a breath of fresh air for the FF series (even though it played a lot like a MMO) I thought it was done well enough to garner it praise.
 
[quote name='uncle5555']But the thing is the scenarios already written, the battle system is already there, same for music, I mean other than polishing it up with high res backgrounds (the character models are already done, since they can just use the ones from Advent Children) re-record the music (I'm not sure if an orchestration has been done or not), and updating it, I don't see it being as time intensive as has been let on.

So I politely disagree with the assessment that it's a time and money sink, because a lot of that work is already done. I mean they could add like an advent children playable section as well as a playable section to the epilogue, but honestly even though how much I read on people complaining on how overrated it is, they'd buy it, just because it is what it is.




I understand that they've done things to continue the story (even though another game would have been better, considering all the time and effort that went into those efforts) Now as far as it taking 9 years for them to make, I'm a bit skeptical of that, considering 13-2 is going to be out by years end, and unless they recycle a lot of the areas like they did in 10-2, their excuse doesn't hold up as well.

I think they're more hesitant than anything else that if it's not done to some unrealistic expectation then people will complain and they don't want to bear the brunt of all that criticism. It would be nice just to see them do something right for a change, especially since it is there flagship title, yet hasn't felt like it in a long time.[/QUOTE]

First of all, it would cost tons of money, whether they re-used everything or not. And we all know they would have to revamp the battle system and other parts of the game considering the game is a decade old -- it has aged. A shiny new FFVII for PS3, battle for battle and line for line wouldn't be that impressive of an RPG. Spending years on something like that is a colossal waste of creative resource, not even just money.

Plus it would look bad, releasing an already made game with the full HD treatment when they could be pushing new ideas.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']First of all, it would cost tons of money, whether they re-used everything or not. And we all know they would have to revamp the battle system and other parts of the game considering the game is a decade old -- it has aged. A shiny new FFVII for PS3, battle for battle and line for line wouldn't be that impressive of an RPG. Spending years on something like that is a colossal waste of creative resource, not even just money.

Plus it would look bad, releasing an already made game with the full HD treatment when they could be pushing new ideas.[/QUOTE]

As our "discussion" isn't going anywhere here, I'm gonna have to agree to disagree with ya. ;)

Lastly, please re-read your last sentence, then I'll kindly point to GoW collection, Sly Collection, PoP collection, Splinter Cell Collection, etc. I think that settles that part of the argument....so while those games aren't doing anything more than just doing a face lift, and this (FF7) arguably would require a lot more work, please don't tell me for one second the market is not there for exact remakes of games from the past with nothing added into them, that's just a foolish statement.

(Let's say if S-E spends $25-50 million on remaking the game, but makes $100 million or more (I'm using hypothetical numbers for examples) in profit, which is realistic, why is there is a loss? They made money, they are a business, so why is that a problem again? What other reason can you give than you perceive it being a bad venture and don't want them to waste time dilly dallying with things from the past)

I did state it would be NICE if they added some of the things I mentioned to make it stand apart from just a frame by frame remake, however, it wouldn't be necessary to do so.

If they make it, people will buy it, this has been proven time and again, with this HD "remakes/makeovers" craze as of late.

The only one I've been personally interested in is the Team Ico collection, because those two games are extremely beautiful games meant to be explored and enjoyed, but the point is they have major interest right now and sell very well regardless of additional content added to them.

We'll see how Kojima does the MSG collection (if indeed it is real) and how he deals with the problem of MGS 1. (remake it, use Twin Snakes, or don't do much of anything to it, we'll see)
 
A lower priced HD upscale isn't really comparable to a project that would take several years -- if we're both on the same page here in that you're talking about making a current gen FFVII that looks visually as good as XIII, for example.

I don't disagree that it would sell regardless of the quality, but if they did actually put the Square effort towards such a remake, I feel that it would take years of creative resource (as in, they are using staff and time) in making a contemporary VII remake, that otherwise could be used to bring new products to the market -- ones that can reach out to broader audiences and at the same time garner large profits.

Again, this is all assuming we're talking about a massive VII project that would make it both look current, as well as play in a much better fashion compared to 10 years ago. If we're talking a shiny makeover of the PS1 versions, no added VA's etc..., then yeah, I would actually expect to see that on something like the PSP2.
 
XIII-2 to be more Dark and Mysterious!

Lightning won't be breaking out a microphone for her appearance in Final Fantasy XIII-2.

New details on Final Fantasy XIII-2 have been made available in the latest issue of Japan's Dengeki magazine. Yoshinori Kitase and Motomu Toriyama, the game's producer and director, have revealed that the direct sequel to Final Fantasy XIII won't replicate the formula of Final Fantasy X-2 and will change a lot more than fans might think.

Final Fantasy X-2 was a lighthearted affair with the main characters constantly changing outfits and singing their hearts out. Kitase and Toriyama confirmed that Final Fantasy XIII-2 will not feature a singing Lightning. Instead, the game will have a "dark and mysterious" feel.

It'll start right in Gran Pulse (no more 20 hour wait before the good stuff), and be a "true sequel," meaning that Final Fantasy XIII-2's story will directly continue that from the first game and even take a look at what went on behind the scenes during Final Fantasy XIII. As expected from XIII-2's first trailer, the game will focus on Lightning and the goddess Etro.

Kitase and Toriyama said that they've been listening to criticisms of Final Fantasy XIII from all over the world regarding "characters, story and interface," and are incorporating that feedback into Final Fantasy XIII-2. The ATB battle system is being "evolved," with difficulty settings under discussion. The cast of characters from the original game will return, but some may feature major changes and appear in "unexpected forms."

The battle system in Final Fantasy XIII wasn't the bees knees for me, so I'm intrigued by its potential in an improved form, and by the "unexpected" future appearances of Sazh and... well mostly just Sazh. Maybe Square Enix will armor him up like the new Lightning to become even more of a badass, or replace his hand with a Gatling gun.
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I don't think Square Enix will make it that much darker, they aren't that good at doing that.
 
[quote name='panzerfaust']They must have been working on this before XIII even released though. Versus looks pretty dark, how badass would an M rated FF be?[/QUOTE]

Ar Tonelico did it, and I can't wait for it!

It'd be pretty high on the awesome scale.
 
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