Jump to content



Photo
* * * - - 2 votes

The "Stay Classy, Obama" Thread


  • Please log in to reply
438 replies to this topic

#91 thrustbucket

thrustbucket

    CAGiversary!

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:07 AM

So in other words, ya'all are still superior to those that didn't vote for Obama because being lied to and misled still leaves you an innocent victim of his hypocrisy and absolves responsibility - with the added bonus of still being able to say "hey at least I didn't vote for THAT asshole honest hawk!"

#92 dohdough

dohdough

    Sum Dum Guy

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:48 AM

2000 - Too young to vote
2004 - Didn't vote as I didn't like my choices
2008 - Obama :(


"We'll see on the left, sure?"

Lets have a contest. I'll post anti-war pics from Bush's presidency and you post them from Obama's and we'll see who runs out first.


So in other words, ya'all are still superior to those that didn't vote for Obama because being lied to and misled still leaves you an innocent victim of his hypocrisy and absolves responsibility - with the added bonus of still being able to say "hey at least I didn't vote for THAT asshole honest hawk!"

In case you guys have a special kind of amnesia of the selective type, Obama campaigned on killing terrorists, partially due to conservatives saying that he'd be weak on that type of shit because he's a Democrat and therefore a limp-wristed liberal pacifist. So not only is Obama an apologist that goes on an Apology Tour!, but now he's also the most war mongering war mongerist war monger. It doesn't get any better than this...

#93 Temporaryscars

Temporaryscars

    Talks like a Dalek

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:00 AM

Who said anything about apologies?



#94 Clak

Clak

    Made of star stuff.

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:02 PM

You really can't win when someone is always out to get you. You get criticized for not being A, you become A, you get criticized for now being A. That's the difference, I don't think many liberals complained Obama wasn't being tough enough on terrorists, at least I didn't. We aren't the ones who made him apologize to the GOP and try to appeal to them. And drone strikes or not, I would still vote for Obama over McCain or Romney.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. -George Carlin

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” -Mark Twain

“When a great genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign; that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." -Jonathon Swift

#95 Temporaryscars

Temporaryscars

    Talks like a Dalek

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:27 PM

http://www.aljazeera...5957645514.html



#96 UncleBob

UncleBob

Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:30 PM

So in other words, ya'all are still superior to those that didn't vote for Obama because being lied to and misled still leaves you an innocent victim of his hypocrisy and absolves responsibility[...]


You know, those who voted for Obama in his first term could probably get away with the "woe is me, I didn't know."

Those who voted for him in his second term gave him a free pass on continuing his drone strikes.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy, instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it."

#97 Temporaryscars

Temporaryscars

    Talks like a Dalek

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:51 PM

You know, those who voted for Obama in his first term could probably get away with the "woe is me, I didn't know."

Those who voted for him in his second term gave him a free pass on continuing his drone strikes.


"Lesser of evils." :roll:



#98 Finger_Shocker

Finger_Shocker

    CAG Veteran

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:43 PM

http://www.politico....one-156084.html

11 Senators (eight-D, three-R) call Obama out on drone strikes.


Only THREE R's......:applause::applause::applause::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Shouldn't that be the stay classy republicans, for being the so called Constitution thumpers

#99 ID2006

ID2006

    "Klaymen, up here!"

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 08 February 2013 - 03:55 AM

http://www.esquire.c...Brennan_Hearing

Brennan might as well have been at a tea party. What little Senator Wyden was able to ask him was obviously responded to coyly — albeit inconsistently — by Brennan.

Obama maybe couldn't safely choose Brennan some time back due to his ties with torture during Bush years, but I guess enough time has passed that he can easily get away with it now.

#100 Temporaryscars

Temporaryscars

    Talks like a Dalek

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:44 AM

http://news.yahoo.co...--politics.html



#101 CaseyRyback

CaseyRyback

    Your New Nightmare!

  • Super Moderators

Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:17 PM

http://firstread.nbc...ck-brennan?lite

Instead of asking stupid questions about Libya, this is what Republicans should have been doing all along. Drone policy and actual trials for enemy combatants should have been a priority a long time ago. Mitt Romney should have beat up Obama on this, GITMO, and areas of the war such as this.

Posted Image


#102 dohdough

dohdough

    Sum Dum Guy

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:29 PM

http://firstread.nbc...ck-brennan?lite

Instead of asking stupid questions about Libya, this is what Republicans should have been doing all along. Drone policy and actual trials for enemy combatants should have been a priority a long time ago. Mitt Romney should have beat up Obama on this, GITMO, and areas of the war such as this.

Yeah, but that's assuming Romney had differing opinions than Obama on those things, which he didn't.
dohdough.png


"Speaking of which, there's another elitist prick that argues constantly on the Politics forums by the name of dohdough. He's a complete douche, but at least he keeps his posts in that cesspool of useless opinions. He gets my runner-up nomination."


Thanks for the nomination for the Most Memorable CAG Villan 2012, Blade!

#103 Clak

Clak

    Made of star stuff.

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:48 PM

I was going to say, they could only beat him up over it if their own opinions differed, which I doubt they do. Drone attacks and GITMO are probably the few things republicans like about what he's done.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. -George Carlin

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” -Mark Twain

“When a great genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign; that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." -Jonathon Swift

#104 CaseyRyback

CaseyRyback

    Your New Nightmare!

  • Super Moderators

Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:50 AM

I rescind my praise of Rand Paul. Hardball played him making some rant about power and Hitler during it. Republicans make sure that any time you praise them that you end up with egg on your face.

Posted Image


#105 lowgear26

lowgear26

    Marriage Kills

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:16 AM

We'll see on the left, sure.

On the right, we'll see hand wringing and deep enjoyment of holding a man to a standard of accountability that they never afforded the prior President while he was in office. In 2013, it's easy to say that Bush overstepped legal boundaries, that the PATRIOT Act stripped us of constitutional protections, military tribunals were antithetical to American ideals of justice, Guantanamo Bay should be closed, etc.

But if you're smiling because people are holding Obama to task in 2013 for this, ask yourself where you were, what you were doing, and who you voted for in 2000, 2004, and 2008.


My children didn't vote for any of this.....yet people will point fingers and blame the other party like little ignorant children because they are towing the party line behind them.

The truth is Bush was terrible....Obama is worse. I don't limit my thoughts to one party when saying to myself that certain things these guys do is wrong.
You Can't handle the Truth.

#106 usickenme

usickenme

    I'm the a-hole

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:24 AM

The truth is Bush was terrible....Obama is worse.


Perhaps if I was only voting on drone usage...but I wasn't.

#107 dafoomie

dafoomie

Posted 07 March 2013 - 02:34 AM

I rescind my praise of Rand Paul. Hardball played him making some rant about power and Hitler during it. Republicans make sure that any time you praise them that you end up with egg on your face.

A person who is wrong once can never be right again?

#108 usickenme

usickenme

    I'm the a-hole

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 07 March 2013 - 02:40 AM

A person who is wrong once can never be right again?


In Paul's case, yes

#109 UncleBob

UncleBob

Posted 07 March 2013 - 02:58 AM

The truth is Bush was terrible....Obama is worse.


ehh... I don't know. I can think of some things that Obama has facilitated that I'm glad to see. I really struggle when it comes to Dubya.

Pure policy-wise, they're both terrible... And if we go by what they say vs. what they do, I'd totally say that Obama is the biggest chump (which is what irks me the most... I'd rather have a guy punch me in the face and say he hates me than have him say I'm his best friend, then punch me)... but pure policy-wise? Naw, I give that turd-trophy to Bush.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy, instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it."

#110 CaseyRyback

CaseyRyback

    Your New Nightmare!

  • Super Moderators

Posted 07 March 2013 - 02:59 AM

In Paul's case, yes


Yup. This is the probably the first and only time I can think that I have ever heard him say something I agree with, and instead of making a principled and impassioned speech that clearly illustrates his point, he goes off the handle. This whole Obama is a tyrant and wants to overthrow America and become a king shit is mind blowing. I just wish that these nut jobs would live in the real world and stop with the crazy bullshit they feed their party. He had a good point, and sabotaged himself to get points with his base.

And before anyone says he didn't say that, yeah he didn't say that, but he said that. Kind of like how people who aren't racist claim that Obama was born in Kenya.

Posted Image


#111 IRHari

IRHari

Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:22 AM

Yup. This is the probably the first and only time I can think that I have ever heard him say something I agree with, and instead of making a principled and impassioned speech that clearly illustrates his point, he goes off the handle. This whole Obama is a tyrant and wants to overthrow America and become a king shit is mind blowing. I just wish that these nut jobs would live in the real world and stop with the crazy bullshit they feed their party. He had a good point, and sabotaged himself to get points with his base.

And before anyone says he didn't say that, yeah he didn't say that, but he said that. Kind of like how people who aren't racist claim that Obama was born in Kenya.


Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald
Yes, Rand Paul - like all politicians (eg Obama) - holds some awful views. You're not marrying him. Just supporting him *on these issues*.
"People the world over have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power." -Bill Clinton

#112 usickenme

usickenme

    I'm the a-hole

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:25 AM

Yeah it's really coming off as " I hate the fact that Obama has drones".

I wonder if Paul is okay with individual states having drones.

Edited by usickenme, 07 March 2013 - 03:46 AM.


#113 Clak

Clak

    Made of star stuff.

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:43 AM

I have to wonder, given that the right has drastically overeacted to nearly every action Obama has taken, what is there left to say if any of it was true? I mean the guy is already a socialist dictator from Kenya in the same vein as Hitler, what would there be left to accuse him of being were he actually any of those things?
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. -George Carlin

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” -Mark Twain

“When a great genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign; that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." -Jonathon Swift

#114 mykevermin

mykevermin

    Queen of Scotland

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:44 AM

A person who is wrong once


once? Paul?

p'shaw.
Posted Image

#115 dafoomie

dafoomie

Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:11 AM

Who cares if he's right, he's not one of us, that means he's wrong! Same old tribalism I've come to expect.

Thank god that someone was brave enough and determined enough to take this opportunity to finally have this discussion in a meaningful way.

Edited by dafoomie, 07 March 2013 - 05:26 AM.


#116 dohdough

dohdough

    Sum Dum Guy

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:35 AM

Yeah it's really coming off as " I hate the fact that Obama has drones".

I wonder if Paul is okay with individual states having drones.


Posted Image

edit: Btw, Sanders did it better because at least he actually discussed the issue rather than using filler from old movies to take up time.
dohdough.png


"Speaking of which, there's another elitist prick that argues constantly on the Politics forums by the name of dohdough. He's a complete douche, but at least he keeps his posts in that cesspool of useless opinions. He gets my runner-up nomination."


Thanks for the nomination for the Most Memorable CAG Villan 2012, Blade!

#117 dafoomie

dafoomie

Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:01 AM

Did you miss the part where they were essentially debating Dick Durbin?

#118 dohdough

dohdough

    Sum Dum Guy

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:11 AM

Did you miss the part where they were essentially debating Dick Durbin?


Who is "they" and what do you think the parties were "debating?"
dohdough.png


"Speaking of which, there's another elitist prick that argues constantly on the Politics forums by the name of dohdough. He's a complete douche, but at least he keeps his posts in that cesspool of useless opinions. He gets my runner-up nomination."


Thanks for the nomination for the Most Memorable CAG Villan 2012, Blade!

#119 mykevermin

mykevermin

    Queen of Scotland

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:35 AM

Who cares if he's right, he's not one of us, that means he's wrong! Same old tribalism I've come to expect.

Thank god that someone was brave enough and determined enough to take this opportunity to finally have this discussion in a meaningful way.


If you could indulge me as to the reason Paul took to the floor to discuss drones, please.
Posted Image

#120 usickenme

usickenme

    I'm the a-hole

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 07 March 2013 - 07:28 AM

Who cares if he's right, he's not one of us, that means he's wrong! Same old tribalism I've come to expect.

Thank god that someone was brave enough and determined enough to take this opportunity to finally have this discussion in a meaningful way.



please it is not a meaningful discussion *, it's a charade. An interesting, cool-to-see charade but one none-the-less. Sure I agree with Paul's position (and wow, he really went out on a ledge for that one) but that doesn't mean I give him a pass for taking it on Now, or the genesis of the whole thing (talk about tribalism), or that fact that while he is "defending" this particular freedom he is happily willing to sell a dozen other freedoms off to corporate interests. Once again the GOP is more concerned with imaginary threats than real problems.

It's so transparent.


Maybe that's okay to you. I ain't that easy.

Edited by usickenme, 07 March 2013 - 07:46 AM.