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CAGcast #229: Throw Wombat from the Train


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#61 bgame2

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 09:14 PM

Umm, did everyone miss the part where I said I had no issue with Wombat wanting to make money? I have an issue with him reminding us about it. To me that detracts from the non-game journalist persona that shajek referred to. (a few posts above)

Wombat has always had the support of the listeners because of that persona. Hell I even defended him for being "really loud" last year at E3 when cheapy blasted him. His loudness to me translated into excitement. That's part of that non-game journalist persona that makes Wombat fun to listen to (even if he does interrupt Shipwreck every 20 seconds).

That said, when he starts name dropping for minutes on end, he seems to be more interested in being accepted by N'Gai Croal than the people that have been listening to him for several years. If we cared about N'Gai Croal, we'd be listening to or reading stuff by him. We want to hear what you think Wombat, not about who you saw.

In so obviously seeking to be a member of the cool kids, Wombat becomes less of the lovable dork that makes him so unique. If you're reading this Wombat, hopefully you can at least understand my point, even if you don't agree with it. To your listeners you already were the cool kid.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 09:14 PM

If people want to bash PS3, if you bought the new MMO DC Universe, apparently that works on your user id and you can't trade it in and make another account for that disk. I think it's nasty for people if you want to try it for a few months, then want to move on, you really can't.

Awesome show, I'm getting You Don't know Jack via gamefly next week on PS3, people can hit me up next week and I'd love to play with others besides my wife. Not sure how long the fun will be.
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#63 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 09:29 PM

If people want to bash PS3, if you bought the new MMO DC Universe, apparently that works on your user id and you can't trade it in and make another account for that disk. I think it's nasty for people if you want to try it for a few months, then want to move on, you really can't.

How is that different from every other MMO? You can easily move on by cancelling your subscription and move on.


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#64 Archaic

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 10:12 PM

I know these guys take some heat for their occasional personality conflicts, but after listening to months worth of back episodes, I think that's kind of this show's charm. They're normal, funny guys who feel no need to be professional (read: dry) because they're not journalists.

Seriously, after Wombat threatened to walk after the E3 episode, I figured I wouldn't listen anymore. But I'd feel the same way if Cheapy or Shipwreck quit. These guys have a fun, entertaining dynamic that I just haven't found anywhere else.

#65 katzd2007

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 10:16 PM

Cheapy, In regards to coming to Ohio and eating with Shipwreck. I think he should refer you to Skyline Chili, since he is in the Cincinnati area. I mean who doesn't love a good wiener on a bun, with (no beans) chili, and a mound of cheese! :)

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#66 Wombat

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 10:19 PM

Umm, did everyone miss the part where I said I had no issue with Wombat wanting to make money? I have an issue with him reminding us about it. To me that detracts from the non-game journalist persona that shajek referred to. (a few posts above)

Wombat has always had the support of the listeners because of that persona. Hell I even defended him for being "really loud" last year at E3 when cheapy blasted him. His loudness to me translated into excitement. That's part of that non-game journalist persona that makes Wombat fun to listen to (even if he does interrupt Shipwreck every 20 seconds).

That said, when he starts name dropping for minutes on end, he seems to be more interested in being accepted by N'Gai Croal than the people that have been listening to him for several years. If we cared about N'Gai Croal, we'd be listening to or reading stuff by him. We want to hear what you think Wombat, not about who you saw.

In so obviously seeking to be a member of the cool kids, Wombat becomes less of the lovable dork that makes him so unique. If you're reading this Wombat, hopefully you can at least understand my point, even if you don't agree with it. To your listeners you already were the cool kid.


I just relistened to the name dropping segment and I think you missed the point. There were 2 things I wanted to do;

1. Highlight some people you may not know like Russ, Tracey & Chris. Not me wanting to feel cool, but the opposite, making others feel cool.

2. To lead Cheapy into talking about HipHopGamer, because that makes Cheapy happy.

Knowing this re-listen to the segment, and let me know what you think.

#67 skadave

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 10:39 PM

I listen to a few video game podcasts. The CAGcast, The Bombcast, Mobcast, Rebel FM, and the Gamespy Debriefings (which in the past month has become unbearable). Out of all of those, I never miss an episode of the Cagcast or the Bombcast (and out of these two I like the Cagcast the best).


I just wanted to give you guys props after reading a lot of this negativity.

#68 ControlerBreaker

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 11:10 PM

Great show guys...Wombat calling Cheapy a douche-face really made my day:applause:
Anyway....I can't decide whether to buy Bulletstorm with the Gears of War 3 beta for my son's X-box360, or Killzone 3 for my Playstation3(both release on 2/22/11 and I have a 1 game per month budget....what do you guys think.

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 11:36 PM

Rotating hosts and each show thread begins with a poll to rate the show. Some sort of contest with the best-rated host getting a prize. Could be listener funded.
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#70 garyu69

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 11:42 PM

Hearing the 'F' Word during online games makes me chuckle being from the UK. I do love to eat $$$$$$s, as they are actually kind of meat balls in gravy over here. And us Brits do like to smoke a $$$ too.

Silly Americans censoring a non offensive word in the uk :p

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#71 bgame2

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 12:47 AM

I just relistened to the name dropping segment and I think you missed the point. There were 2 things I wanted to do;

1. Highlight some people you may not know like Russ, Tracey & Chris. Not me wanting to feel cool, but the opposite, making others feel cool.

2. To lead Cheapy into talking about HipHopGamer, because that makes Cheapy happy.

Knowing this re-listen to the segment, and let me know what you think.



You've got it Wombat. Maybe putting it into the intended perspective will make me hear it differently.

Thanks for taking the time to consider my comments (that is not sarcasm). As a loyal listener, knowing that the comments matter is appreciated.

Edited by bgame2, 19 February 2011 - 01:04 AM.


#72 Akuhei

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 10:35 AM

There's quite of few Japanese people in Ohio. Honda has several factories as well as other Japanese 'heavy industry' firms. Big expat community.

#73 Kezmer

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 12:58 PM

Man I could just feel the disgust from Cheapy and Shipwreck when Wombat said he got some free swag from EA. I don't understand the hate for him everytime.

While I don't personally know Wombat but from listening to the show for over 3 years I can tell the guy is just generally excited about games and things. I think you are too hard on him sometimes. I for one don't blame him for getting all the free stuff he wants. Without him going to these events, how else would all of us know about the games he saw. He is giving up his family time for it and we all benefit, so why shouldn't he?
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#74 shipwreck

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 01:15 PM

Man I could just feel the disgust from Cheapy and Shipwreck when Wombat said he got some free swag from EA. I don't understand the hate for him everytime.

While I don't personally know Wombat but from listening to the show for over 3 years I can tell the guy is just generally excited about games and things. I think you are too hard on him sometimes. I for one don't blame him for getting all the free stuff he wants. Without him going to these events, how else would all of us know about the games he saw. He is giving up his family time for it and we all benefit, so why shouldn't he?


It's not disgust. It's good-natured ribbing. I have an EA backpack on the table behind me as I'm typing this.
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#75 ShockandAww

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 01:22 PM

It's not disgust. It's good-natured ribbing. I have an EA backpack on the table behind me as I'm typing this.

Yeah but is there a BULLETSTORM NUTCRACKER inside that pathetic EA fanny pack?! I didn't think so.

#76 KillerRamen

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 02:01 PM

Great show guys...Wombat calling Cheapy a douche-face really made my day:applause:
Anyway....I can't decide whether to buy Bulletstorm with the Gears of War 3 beta for my son's X-box360, or Killzone 3 for my Playstation3(both release on 2/22/11 and I have a 1 game per month budget....what do you guys think.

Thanks,
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There's a Bulletstorm and Killzone 3 Demo on the PSN and there's also a Bulletstorm Demo on Xbox Live. Why not try them both out and see which one you like more?

I found the Killzone 3 Beta to be fantastic and that's the one I'm getting, but to each his own.
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#77 hufferstl

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 02:09 PM

Wombat, have you played any more Indie games?

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 08:27 PM

100k listeners? you can get that. Just tell 3 people and have them tell 3 people then have those 3 people tell 3 more people, then you will have 27 and that's close enough.

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 08:31 PM

Honestly I like the banter between the guys more than the game talk.
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#80 Kezmer

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 11:06 PM

It's not disgust. It's good-natured ribbing. I have an EA backpack on the table behind me as I'm typing this.


Thanks, I was hoping it was just ribbing. I just remember Cheapy groaning after he asked if he got anything. I am not sure why, but it just stood out to me for some reason.
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#81 AshesofWake

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 12:12 AM

HOLY SHIT CAKES. I can't believe Cheapy hasn't seen Louie. MY GOD MAN. watch it asap, you will love it. amazing show.
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#82 Energy Penguin

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 02:43 AM

I was hoping it was just ribbing. I just remember Cheapy groaning after he asked if he got anything. I am not sure why, but it just stood out to me for some reason.


This was the funniest part of the show for me.

#83 tobiaz

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 05:24 AM

I've listened to the CAGCAST for about a year now, and this episode really made me want to post. Specifically, I wanted to highlight what Cheapy said about "losing the eye of the tiger" as it's become more and more obvious as the weeks go by. If you listen closely, Cheapy just moans and groans through every episode as if can't wait for it to end. This worries me as Cheapy is really the soul of this podcast. Wombat and Ship are cool sidekicks, but they clearly don't have the personality to carry the show's weight. We need you back Cheapy!!!!

So in that light, here are my suggestions to make the podcast better:

1. Eliminate the new releases segment: I feel it's just a monologue where Ship talks about obscure games, while Cheapy and Wombat just zone out.

2. More personal stories! I love episodes where Cheapy talks about his life in Japan, Wombat talks about a his train being delayed by crazy people jumping in front of them. Go crazy guys, many days this is a lot more interesting that the actual games talk.

3. Go into all of the detail of what it's like to visit a press event: I feel many us listen to games media because in secret we'd love to live the life or being paid to play games. Many times, it's more interesting to hear about all of the details of the trip vs. the shitty games the company announced which usually you can't even talk about anyways. Talk about the trip process, the after parties, the rumors, the small talk you had with other games journalists, the food, everything, we want to know it all.

4. More Guests: Mix things up, Cheapy, why don't you invite Mark McDonald to you house and have him weight on the news, or if HipHop gamer is so interesting, bring him on the show!

5. Deep dive game discussions: RebelFM recently did a 3 episode discussion on Dead Space 2. I loved it, why, because I don't have time to play games anymore, but I feel like I'm playing the game through their experiences. I'm not saying the Cagcast should do this exact thing, but maybe talking about games that all of you have played would be interesting.

6. Read more listener mail and comments (make sure to get the listener's name correct), make us feel like your care and interact with the listeners. We want to be part of the experience, and hey, if you mention people's names it makes people feel part of the club and keeps them coming back.

What do other listeners think? I'd love for us to give more suggestions.

Cheers
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Edited by tobiaz, 20 February 2011 - 05:36 AM.
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#84 GTmaster39

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 06:54 AM

I've listened to the CAGCAST for about a year now, and this episode really made me want to post. Specifically, I wanted to highlight what Cheapy said about "losing the eye of the tiger" as it's become more and more obvious as the weeks go by. If you listen closely, Cheapy just moans and groans through every episode as if can't wait for it to end. This worries me as Cheapy is really the soul of this podcast. Wombat and Ship are cool sidekicks, but they clearly don't have the personality to carry the show's weight. We need you back Cheapy!!!!

So in that light, here are my suggestions to make the podcast better:

1. Eliminate the new releases segment: I feel it's just a monologue where Ship talks about obscure games, while Cheapy and Wombat just zone out.

2. More personal stories! I love episodes where Cheapy talks about his life in Japan, Wombat talks about a his train being delayed by crazy people jumping in front of them. Go crazy guys, many days this is a lot more interesting that the actual games talk.

3. Go into all of the detail of what it's like to visit a press event: I feel many us listen to games media because in secret we'd love to live the life or being paid to play games. Many times, it's more interesting to hear about all of the details of the trip vs. the shitty games the company announced which usually you can't even talk about anyways. Talk about the trip process, the after parties, the rumors, the small talk you had with other games journalists, the food, everything, we want to know it all.

4. More Guests: Mix things up, Cheapy, why don't you invite Mark McDonald to you house and have him weight on the news, or if HipHop gamer is so interesting, bring him on the show!

5. Deep dive game discussions: RebelFM recently did a 3 episode discussion on Dead Space 2. I loved it, why, because I don't have time to play games anymore, but I feel like I'm playing the game through their experiences. I'm not saying the Cagcast should do this exact thing, but maybe talking about games that all of you have played would be interesting.

6. Read more listener mail and comments (make sure to get the listener's name correct), make us feel like your care and interact with the listeners. We want to be part of the experience, and hey, if you mention people's names it makes people feel part of the club and keeps them coming back.

What do other listeners think? I'd love for us to give more suggestions.

Cheers
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#85 Maklershed

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 01:35 PM

Cheapy - I just wanted to let you know that I just spilled coffee all over myself thanks to you. I was lifting my mug up to take a sip and I heard your suggestion for the Hip-Hop Gamer to be 'over the top' and you yelled "Killzone 3 goes whooooo!" and I started to tremor with laughter and my coffee went everywhere. As always, great episode guys.

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#86 skadave

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 04:10 PM

I disagree with tobaiz. . . KEEP IT GAME FOCUSED. If you want to hear a video game podcast that has moved away from being game focused, listen to the IGN Gamespy Debriefings. It is crap. If i want to listen to funny life stories i would rather listen to Opie and Anthony. I listen to the Cagcast for videogame news and reviews.

#87 skadave

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 04:11 PM

Shipwreck. . . to solve your You Don't Know Jack problem.

Put your controller on your coffee table and pick it up to answer. this way you have a 1 second delay over your wife (who keeps the controller in her hand).

#88 GTmaster39

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 04:32 PM

Cheapy - I just wanted to let you know that I just spilled coffee all over myself thanks to you. I was lifting my mug up to take a sip and I heard your suggestion for the Hip-Hop Gamer to be 'over the top' and you yelled "Killzone 3 goes whooooo!" and I started to tremor with laughter and my coffee went everywhere. As always, great episode guys.


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#89 Staccata

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 08:54 PM

Fried chicken on the walls? really cheapy?

#90 rightangle90

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 09:56 PM

I agree with most of the points tobiaz made, except for point 1 about the new releases. I like hearing their opinions on new game releases, if they happen to have an opinion.

About garyu69's post, hilarious. :) I thought the other 'f' word meant "cigarettes", didn't know about the meatballs.

Man, that train incident sounds like it would cause nightmares. I remember seeing the aftermath of a car crash as a kid. When I saw it, the cops were already there cleaning up and had a sheet over the victim. But I saw one of the cops lifting up the sheets and the sheet was covered with blood. Scary. Now when I cross the street, I constantly look both ways and listen for cars.