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#421 SinOfHeart

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 10:51 PM

This is all true, but none of it is particularly relevant when you're actually recruiting her. That's all stuff you pick up after the fact. The only thing you know when you get her is that she seems crazy.

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I don't know that I would say I thought she was crazy, perhaps extremely pious, but having visions in a game that is in a setting with magic, doesn't seem all that far fetched to me. Plus, again it was interesting for me to find out why she believed she had been given a vision from the Maker.

Uh, Zevran
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#422 The Crotch

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:13 PM

Crotch, if life was Dragon Age and that was a speech then you just got yourself a permanent position in my party.

D'aww. <3. I guess I need to start min/maxing now. Shame I didn't do any of that in the first 21 years of my life. I'm... kinda spec'ed to be a blood mage right now, maybe? Strength's not bad, but it's not a stand-out stat, so I should stay away from two-handers. My dex is definitely be too low to be a rogue, and willpower and endurance are quite funny - see, I've always

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I hate both Kaiden and Ashley, though. I also don't think Morrigan was ever a mean person, it seemed more like she was just brought up that way, but deep down she really did love your character and just wanted to be nice. It was Flemeth's teachings and her lonely upbringing that made her realllly distrustful of all people (authority figures, especially) but after you let her know that her mother was wrong she really establishes that she's a nice person.

Well, I read her like this: much like I have "always plays protoss in Starcraft" as part of my identity, Morrigan has "does not want friends" as part of her identity, built up over many years. And just as I occasionally wonder what playing terran would be like, she too thinks about friendship - but decides against it, because ultimately, she really doesn't want it. When (if) you come along and challenge that, she reacts with her usual hostility, a defence mechanism she created unconsciously to help her resist temptation (I should get around to creating a defence mechanism to keep me from playing terran). Temptation becomes too great, defence mechanism fails, self-image changes, self changes.

I will never play terran, though.

I don't know that I would say I thought she was crazy, perhaps extremely pious, but having visions in a game that is in a setting with magic, doesn't seem all that far fetched to me. Plus, again it was interesting for me to find out why she believed she had been given a vision from the Maker.

Eh... I dunno. It's an established part of lore that the Maker doesn't talk to people. Like, that's what the entire church is built around. The one time the Maker talked to someone. Leliana's claim that the Maker talked to her... well, it's about equivalent to claiming to be the Messiah. I would not bring someone claiming to be the Messiah with me if I was trying to save the world from an unspeakable abomination.

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Uh, Zevran

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So, to ihadFG: yes.

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#423 SinOfHeart

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:20 PM

Eh... I dunno. It's an established part of lore that the Maker doesn't talk to people. Like, that's what the entire church is built around. The one time the Maker talked to someone. Leliana's claim that the Maker talked to her... well, it's about equivalent to claiming to be the Messiah. I would not bring someone claiming to be the Messiah with me if I was trying to save the world from an unspeakable abomination.


By your previous admission about how you don't know much about Leliana at that point in the game you probably don't know much about the church either. Also, if you happen to have Leliana in your party for the Urn of Sacred Ashes part of the game you would have learned:
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Again it comes down to whether she really saw something or not, but she seems very convinced she did, which is what leads me to believe perhaps what she saw wasn't the Maker but something in the Fade giving her a vision.

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#424 Rai Rai

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:22 PM

Oh silly me, I'd forgotten all about that. I'm glad to know it's still on your mind though.


I tend to remember people who run from a challenge.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:26 PM

How long have you played DKCR? Because at first it seemed a bit weird, but I got used to the controls after playing it a bit.


I'm on the 4th world. I'm starting to get used to it, but the shake=attack still isn't clicking.

#426 The Crotch

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:29 PM

By your previous admission about how you don't know much about Leliana at that point in the game you probably don't know much about the church either.

But your character does (Origin story dependant, naturally - if they even believe in the Maker.).

And you can too, if you read the right codex entries (I think. It's been a little while, but I believe you get a decent run-down of the church in the noble and mage origins, at the very least.).

(This post has a lot of parenthesis.)

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EDIT: And now it has an "EDIT:".

Again it comes down to whether she really saw something or not, but she seems very convinced she did, which is what leads me to believe perhaps what she saw wasn't the Maker but something in the Fade giving her a vision.

That's even worse! She's got a fucking pride demon after her!

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#427 SinOfHeart

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:32 PM

Admittedly I've never opened the Codex once in ME or DA. I went with what my gut told me, and that was that she wasn't crazy.

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#428 The Crotch

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:33 PM

I can not blame you for DAO, at least.

Horrible, horrible codex.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:36 PM

I can't quite put my finger on it, but the controls in DKCR don't feel right.


I couldn't stand it. If they just let you use a classic controller, I think I would have loved the game.

#430 SinOfHeart

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:37 PM

That's even worse! She's got a fucking pride demon after her!


Not everything in the Fade is a demon, see Wynne.

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#431 The Crotch

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:41 PM

Non-demons reaching out to mortals is an extreme rarity. So says Wynne (who, if she's smart, should be very worried that she's got a nasty case of pride demon abomination all up ins). And the codex. And Justice, a Fade creature who isn't a demon. They just don't give a Fuck about us (Wynne excluded, for unknown reasons).

It's feasible, much in the same way Tempest beating Flash in a best-of-seven if feasible (or feasible like anyone but kainzero and Darren understanding that reference is feasible).

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#432 JSP

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:43 PM

Jesus christ what the Fuck are you all talking about now
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#433 SinOfHeart

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:46 PM

Jesus christ what the Fuck are you all talking about now


Adult things, we'll explain them to you when you're older.

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#434 The Crotch

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:52 PM

Shit man, I've had, like, two and a half pages to go on about this shit. What a baller way to close out a GGT.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:54 PM

For me, my dislike of Leliana came from a lot of things she said. The "Maker talked to me" bit was only part of it. She just seemed loopy to me, and not in a cute way. I was also not a fan of the Chantry at all, seeing as how they commited acts I considered to be evil, so Leliana being part of the Chantry didn't add anything to my opinion of her.

I tend to remember people who run from a challenge.


It's nice to know I'll be in your thoughts. This one has gotten more mileage than I expected.

#436 Rai Rai

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 12:06 AM

It's nice to know I'll be in your thoughts. This one has gotten more mileage than I expected.


It just may not be in the way you expected.

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 12:36 AM

Some douche just posted LA Noire spoilers in the deals forum as a post titled "LA Noire 19.99 at Best Buy not YMMV"

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 12:50 AM

Some douche just posted LA Noire spoilers in the deals forum as a post titled "LA Noire 19.99 at Best Buy not YMMV"


Did he get banned?

#439 Rai Rai

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 12:50 AM

Did he get banned?


Right after he posted the ending as the topic title for a new topic. Glad I wasn't interested in that game at all.

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 12:58 AM

and this is why I barely spend any time in the deals section anymore

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 01:01 AM

Glad I didn't see it. I'm on the last few cases now.

#442 Rai Rai

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 01:16 AM

Glad I didn't see it. I'm on the last few cases now.


Oh really? Better beat it soon then.

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#443 JSP

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 01:37 AM

Dead Space Extraction is getting boring only three chapters left though I guess. Pretty damn close to the end of Persona 3 too.
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#444 BlueScrote

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 01:51 AM

Anyone want to play some Reach or :ps3: Mortal Kombat? I can't seem to play more than a level or two at a time in Lara Croft: Guardian of Light

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 03:01 AM

Well, I read her like this: much like I have "always plays protoss in Starcraft" as part of my identity, Morrigan has "does not want friends" as part of her identity, built up over many years. And just as I occasionally wonder what playing terran would be like, she too thinks about friendship - but decides against it, because ultimately, she really doesn't want it. When (if) you come along and challenge that, she reacts with her usual hostility, a defence mechanism she created unconsciously to help her resist temptation (I should get around to creating a defence mechanism to keep me from playing terran). Temptation becomes too great, defence mechanism fails, self-image changes, self changes.

I will never play terran, though.

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I guess I could see Morrigan like that, except in our romance she clearly DID NOT want to spend more time with me after I
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She took a major stand on that, every time I went to her and was like, "Honey, Let's spend some time together" She was like "Nope, Flo's in town biiiiitch and it's high tide". If she really never wanted friends or wanted to stay mean, I'm sure she would have. Just like she wouldn't have let me in
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I agree with what you said about Zevran. I don't know how anyone got him to not like them though. Dude was sweet on me bad, I even accidently fucked him.

Non-demons reaching out to mortals is an extreme rarity. So says Wynne (who, if she's smart, should be very worried that she's got a nasty case of pride demon abomination all up ins). And the codex. And Justice, a Fade creature who isn't a demon. They just don't give a Fuck about us (Wynne excluded, for unknown reasons).

It's feasible, much in the same way Tempest beating Flash in a best-of-seven if feasible (or feasible like anyone but kainzero and Darren understanding that reference is feasible).

Though I pretended to be nice to Wynne, I really wanted the demon to take over her so I could kill her. She always disagree with my shit.

Some douche just posted LA Noire spoilers in the deals forum as a post titled "LA Noire 19.99 at Best Buy not YMMV"

Huh, I wonder if it was the same dude that spoiled Heavy Rain? I know Cheapy supposedly IP banned him, but that's a similar tactic to what that guy used.

#446 The Crotch

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 03:03 AM

Wynne was like bizarro-Kreia from Knights of the Old Republic 2. Always going on about some philosophical bullshit and wanting me to be all, "Wow, old person, you're so wise!"

Had some good banter with Alistair, though.

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#447 JSP

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 03:09 AM

This can't be a real thread SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
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#448 j-cart

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 03:18 AM

This can't be a real thread SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP


What you don't play video games?

#449 CaptainJoel

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 03:31 AM

Wynne was like bizarro-Kreia from Knights of the Old Republic 2. Always going on about some philosophical bullshit and wanting me to be all, "Wow, old person, you're so wise!"

Had some good banter with Alistair, though.

YES! Man, they really had me cracking up when she kept telling Alistair she wanted to
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and he was all like, ewwwww.

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 03:50 AM

HAHAHAHA Uraizen is a funny man.

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