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#31 asheskitty

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:10 PM

Coming soon to California, the Amazon Taxpocalypse! In your favorite webstore September 15.

CNN article mentioning other states as well.

California, for instance, agreed last fall to push back the requirement that Amazon collect tax until Sept. 15. In exchange, the company agreed to create at least 10,000 full-time jobs and hire 25,000 seasonal employees in the Golden State by the end of 2015.



#32 Gamelore

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 04:06 AM

I wonder if preorders will be taxed if I make them before the 15th. Hmm.

#33 caltab

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 04:52 AM

There are some potential positives that could come with Amazon being forced to collect tax in all 50 states. They have done a lot to avoid a physical presence in a lot of places, and when they do they just have a warehouse. If they are no longer able to avoid the collecting of sales tax, they will probably become an even better business. They will probably have warehouses in all 50 states so shipping times will be faster. They may even venture into retail space.

They have had a HUGE competitive advantage because of sales tax. But they no longer need it because they have grown their brand and reputation so strongly. I think some of their strategies will change if sales tax collection avoidance is off the table.

Also, OP's assertion that Amazon just talks big and does nothing about it is just flat out wrong. They have heavily litigated the Consitutionality of these state laws.

#34 eLefAdEr

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 05:27 AM

I wonder if preorders will be taxed if I make them before the 15th. Hmm.


It probably comes down to when it actually ships, or when the charge goes through since Amazon waits until it does.

There are some potential positives that could come with Amazon being forced to collect tax in all 50 states. They have done a lot to avoid a physical presence in a lot of places, and when they do they just have a warehouse. If they are no longer able to avoid the collecting of sales tax, they will probably become an even better business. They will probably have warehouses in all 50 states so shipping times will be faster. They may even venture into retail space.

They have had a HUGE competitive advantage because of sales tax. But they no longer need it because they have grown their brand and reputation so strongly. I think some of their strategies will change if sales tax collection avoidance is off the table.

Also, OP's assertion that Amazon just talks big and does nothing about it is just flat out wrong. They have heavily litigated the Consitutionality of these state laws.


A tax-free internet was once a way to make internet commerce competitive. Now that businesses like Amazon are off the ground and running, the law will level it completely. A bit too drastic in my opinion but I don't get to write the laws. A real shame, that. ;)

Of course, we technically all should have been paying sales tax in the form of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_tax on state income taxes anyway...


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#35 donkeydrop

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 07:02 AM

I wonder if preorders will be taxed if I make them before the 15th. Hmm.


When you place the order it says right on that page taxes are only estimated, and the actual tax is determined at the time your credit card is charged.

#36 donkeydrop

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 07:06 AM

Also, OP's assertion that Amazon just talks big and does nothing about it is just flat out wrong. They have heavily litigated the Consitutionality of these state laws.


Plus negotiating a one year delay in implementing the tax in return for adding warehouses in CA. So buyers in CA will get a lot more stuff next day because it is shipping locally.

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 12:43 PM

I think if online purchases will be taxed on Amazon.Com then government vehicles should have to buy a vehicle tax sticker each year, not sure why they get exempt, that is not fair either

#38 StryderOmega

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:11 PM

I think if online purchases will be taxed on Amazon.Com then government vehicles should have to buy a vehicle tax sticker each year, not sure why they get exempt, that is not fair either


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Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:41 PM

The reasoning the supreme court used was that removing the requirement of physical presence would violate the commerce clause and be overly burdensome on companies because every state has different taxing standards and regulations. It's harder today to make the argument it's overly burdensome on a gigantic corp like Amazon. Also, it has always been possible for congress to step in and remove the physical presence requirement without violating the commerce clause since that only limits what states can do.