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#1771 GhostShark

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:57 PM

It would seem the Torque DLC is due on November 20th. I have still yet to play Captain Scarlett, so this is good, for when I do play, I will have plenty to do.
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#1772 Ryuukishi

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:06 PM

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:22 PM

Gah, I have SO MUCH to play this Tuesday. I haven't even gone through Pirate's Booty yet.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:27 PM

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#1775 Ryuukishi

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:41 PM

Gah, I have SO MUCH to play this Tuesday. I haven't even gone through Pirate's Booty yet.


At least it's not the same day as Omega!

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#1776 cancerman1120

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:54 PM

Hmmm...I have a season pass so I will download this but I have a bad taste in my mouth about this game right now. I did not even collect the last golden keys because Pitchford was such an ass this week. I know, "first world problems" and all. The funny thing though is that with the Mechromancer and 2 DLCs being released within the first2 months of this game being released pretty much makes Pitchford a liar. He said they were not even working on DLC until the game was done. No way that is true. I went gold mid Aug I guess so in 3 months they created all this? Does not seem likely. Not complaining about content since BL2 has it in spades but why can't developers just be honest about their plans for DLC? Just own it.

Anyway, it their going to be a level increase? If not then I am waiting. It is no fun to play without earning XP right now.

#1777 blindinglights

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:01 PM

The video I watched said no level cap increase on this one :-(.
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#1778 Ink.So.Well.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:30 PM

Definitely not interested in the Campaign of Carnage. Terrible business practices aside it sounds like more of the same. Well... minus new enemies, a level cap increase and rarity level higher than what we already have to justify the amount of senseless grinding necessary to earn those new weapons. Weapons which from the looks of it won't compare to the Legendaries most of us already have now.

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#1779 One From Zero

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:35 PM

Anyway, it their going to be a level increase? If not then I am waiting. It is no fun to play without earning XP right now.



Well, according to Pitchford's twitter you are ahead of the curve and must be a hardcore badass:

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#1780 Brother Daz

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:46 PM

Wow, no level cap increase again!? Dropping the ball this time around GB

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:05 PM

All information on the DLC2, both official and leaked (Spoilers, obviously):

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:27 PM

I basically played the first dlc overleveled in my playthrough 1 so I stopped doing side quests. By the time I finished playthrough 2 I was at level 50 so I do not feel like playing the dlc if I cannot level up. It really does show a lack of self-awareness on their own progression system. How can they really think people are not at level 50 yet with all the quests. Maybe in one playthrough you might not be 50 yet between the original game and Pirate dlc but dlc should be an add on not a progression. You should expect people to have characters with 2 playthroughs by now. This is what happens when dlc is planned as part of the original game and not true extensions. This dlc will add nothing to longtime players which is exactly how it should be thought out. This dlc is better suited for people just starting the game. Bad Gearbox bad.
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#1783 Renegade Moose

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:54 PM

I'm sure there are plenty of people like me who between work, school, other responsibilities, and other games have not maxed out their character. I can't play video games 8 hours a day. I haven't even beaten the first dlc. I'm far away from level 50 and don't plan on a play through 2 any time soon. I'm sure I'm in the minority on a message board, but I doubt it in the amount of Borderlands players.
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#1784 GhostShark

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:26 PM

Yeah, class and work stopped me from even beating the game for over a month. And even now, I am only level 38 and still need to start Captain Scarlett. I'm cool with the current level cap.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:33 PM

I'm sure there are plenty of people like me who between work, school, other responsibilities, and other games have not maxed out their character. I can't play video games 8 hours a day. I haven't even beaten the first dlc. I'm far away from level 50 and don't plan on a play through 2 any time soon. I'm sure I'm in the minority on a message board, but I doubt it in the amount of Borderlands players.


That is not the point. The point is the amount of content already released if played in the time it was released (chronologically) results in most people either being A) Overleveled or B) At level 50. They are saying this new DLC should be for those under level 50 which is just wrong for A LOT of players. DLC is supposed to enhance the game not restrict advanced players or dedicated player from progressing. This works great for you if you are just playing the story DLC mainly and are behind but those that have completed all the side quests and done some farming are forced to choose between experiencing new content with little progression or waiting for a 3rd DLC to level up. Each DLC should have had some bit of increase in level cap. Even if it is 5 levels at a time.


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#1786 Ryuukishi

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:34 PM

I would love to see a level cap increase, and a bank increase for that matter. It's not going to prevent me from having fun with the DLC though.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:35 PM

Yeah, class and work stopped me from even beating the game for over a month. And even now, I am only level 38 and still need to start Captain Scarlett. I'm cool with the current level cap.


But if you are level 38 and on the 1st playthrough the Captain Scarlett DLC is not even worth playing. You are going to be so overleveled it is not even a challenge. That is why they created TVHM. You are better off starting TVHM and playing the Pirate DLC right off the bat.

#1788 GhostShark

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:38 PM

I don't care about how difficult it is, really. I just want to see the content. Sure, leveling further would be nice, but I value content a bit more than some people, I suppose.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:42 PM

I don't care about how difficult it is, really. I just want to see the content. Sure, leveling further would be nice, but I value content a bit more than some people, I suppose.


Well that is cool then. The writing is top notch so it is entertaining. I am mostly just bitching in general and not saying anyone here is wrong with how they like to play.

#1790 One From Zero

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 12:43 AM

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For historical reference, here's the timeline for BL1 cap increases. 4 months to get the first bump. I hope it's faster this time around.

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Just saw a thread over at the GBX forums that might be of some interest - Level Cap increase to be handled differently from Borderlands 1. Discussion stems from a quote by GBX vp of marketing to IGN during an interview for DLC 2:

Looking ahead, Gearbox says it’s already thinking about the next downloadable content. Eventually, the developer has plans to raise Borderlands 2’s level cap, but not in the way you might expect. “We’re discussing trying to do it in a more interesting way,” Gearbox vice president of marketing Steve Gibson told IGN. “We think people are going to be really happy when we do get to it. It’s a little bit different way of doing it. Yes, the number will go up, but there are some other things associated with it that we’re trying to do an even better job of.”


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Posted 18 November 2012 - 05:39 AM

But if you are level 38 and on the 1st playthrough the Captain Scarlett DLC is not even worth playing. You are going to be so overleveled it is not even a challenge. That is why they created TVHM. You are better off starting TVHM and playing the Pirate DLC right off the bat.


How are you supposed to do that, I thought you had to get to Oasis for the Captain Scarlet DLC. It's that time of year, when there are too many quality games to play than to level up in one game so yeah I see the reasoning.
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#1792 dmaul1114

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:03 PM

But if you are level 38 and on the 1st playthrough the Captain Scarlett DLC is not even worth playing. You are going to be so overleveled it is not even a challenge. That is why they created TVHM. You are better off starting TVHM and playing the Pirate DLC right off the bat.


Not everyone plays games for challenge. I had a lot of fun playing the pirate dlc with a level 35 or so character, don't give a crap about beating the extra bosses etc. I do have a TVHM playthrough going now worth some friends, but I'm not that motivated to get through it as I'm pretty burnt out on the game. Excited for more dlc, but playing through the game on the harder difficulty doesn't do much for me.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:28 PM

Meh. My opinion on BL2 is that it is no where near as difficult as BL. More difficult and challeging games are the reason I even play video games stilll. I was bummed out on how easy BL2 actually is.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:00 PM

To each their own. If all games were hard I'd have quit gaming long ago. I get enough challenge in my career, running etc. and turn to hobbies like gaming to just veg out and relax. Not challenge myself further and just get frustrated when I need to relax and de-stress.

I love BL2 to as it's not that hard and its easy to veg out and relax wandering around doing quests. Even TVHM isn't that bad once I got some good purple weapons from golden keys.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:56 PM

To me the only game that has done difficult well in recent memory was Dark Souls. You were happy with your victory and you didn't feel the difficulty was cheap.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:37 PM

Meh. My opinion on BL2 is that it is no where near as difficult as BL. More difficult and challeging games are the reason I even play video games stilll. I was bummed out on how easy BL2 actually is.


You think due to the second wind nature Gearbox built around Borderlands 2? I went down a lot as a Berserker but normally would come back. Most of the time though I chose quests that were trivial but yeah co-op also amps up the difficulty in B2, badass enemies everywhere lol. Although I can see buddies rezing fallen allies then too.

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#1797 Ryuukishi

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:09 PM

IMO Borderlands 2 is much harder than Borderlands 1. In B1 if you do sidequests at all, by the time you're a few hours into the game you've outpaced the enemies by so much that you're basically never in danger of dying again. Borderlands 2 actually stays at least moderately challenging, especially in PT2.

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#1798 Ryuukishi

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:31 PM

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:57 PM

I downloaded the dlc but its not popping up as a new town or undiscovered mission. Anyone wanna team up later? I have the majority of you guys on my friends list just invite me even if I'm not on borderlands.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:12 PM

Go to time travel station and you will see the new area. It is titled something like badass badlands. And god damn if I didn't get hit with badass rank reset when I started the game up last night to play the new dlc. Fuck you borderlands and I never play bl2 online with others. Strictly a bl2 issue which they blame on the unreal 3 engine.