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#721 jza1218

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:18 AM

I'll be on.

#722 Matt Young

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:30 AM

Yeah, what time? Been in a hockey mood for obvious reasons. :-)

#723 n8rockerasu

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 12:54 AM

I should be on in about an hour. 10 PM EST.

#724 DarkTower80

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 01:09 AM

I will be around tonight too.

#725 moojuice

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 01:31 AM

I will be around tonight too.

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#726 n8rockerasu

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 06:43 AM

Pretty good night. We started out 0-2, but went 6-0-1 after that, winning our last 3 games by 1 goal each. Some pretty stout defense at the end there.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 05:41 PM

Pretty good night. We started out 0-2, but went 6-0-1 after that, winning our last 3 games by 1 goal each. Some pretty stout defense at the end there.


Yeah we were really good defensively. On a personal note, I felt like I played awful offensively and had one of my best nights defensively.

#728 n8rockerasu

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 09:45 PM

Yeah we were really good defensively. On a personal note, I felt like I played awful offensively and had one of my best nights defensively.


Ah, I didn't think you were bad offensively. You had at least one multi-goal game that I can remember. Brandon and I talk about this all the time though. That's where having a forward line where all 3 people can step up and make plays is critical. We all have nights where we just can't seem to find the back of the net, and we need our linemates to step up and carry the team for a game or two.

Even when people aren't scoring, if they're contributing solid defense and good passing, the team benefits. Holding that one douchebag team to one goal was pretty impressive, I thought. We had the blue line so stacked the entire game, they were struggling just to get into our zone. They kept going for those loose puck dekes and we just kept taking the puck away.

We did a great job staying infront of them and using the stick lift while holding the left trigger. I'm trying to get myself doing that more instead of just trying to poke at the puck, since poking doesn't seem to be nearly as effective (and seems to actually get worse the closer the puck is to you). With the way teams always spam it against us, I'm at least trying to incorporate it into my game more without getting called for slashing too much.

#729 jza1218

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 10:21 PM

What's the benefit to holding lt while stick lifting?

#730 n8rockerasu

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:11 PM

What's the benefit to holding lt while stick lifting?


Squares you up with the defender better, supposedly more focused (ie. vision control), less likely to cause a penalty, etc. It only really applies if the puck carrier's facing you though. If you're trying to stick lift while chasing from behind, you're just rolling the dice on if it will work at all or if you'll just get called for slashing/hooking. And since it does slow you down, that's when I'd just use a poke check to pester the guy or try to get him to panic. Sometimes when I'm poking, I'm not even trying to go for the puck. I'm just trying to cut off angles or make the guy do something dumb.

I think this is what teams do to us. The second we touch the puck (especially in our own end), they hammer on LT + A immediately. I think we're more inclined to try to poke the puck away (because it makes more sense). It just doesn't work as well in the game as raping somebody's stick out of their hands. Alan and Gary probably know more about it than I do since they deal with it a lot more, both trying to stick lift and also getting raped immediately off the faceoff. That's just the biggest area I've been trying to get better at because it seems like the best way to hold the blue line. Poking does no good against danglers. Some guys walk right through checks. But if you're in the right position, stick lifts seem to work most of the time.

#731 moojuice

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:52 PM

For me, general rules of thumb on D are:

1.) 90% of the time, I'm LT-ing 100% of the time (I seldom let go of LT, really only if someone seems to be able to pass me up and I can't be back-skating or im going to get beat)

2.) If i'm, within arms reach, stick lift. Otherwise, poke.

3.) For LB dekes, poke during the deke itself, body after the deke

4.) For RS dangling, if my player is facing a direction where he doesn't need to turn/rotate to face the puck carrier (which is a majority of the time since I LT so much), stick lift, otherwise poke if it's a straight shot from my stick to the puck (so I dont reach thru the feet), otherwise, go for the body.

5.) If someone is skating perpendicular to my direction, never stick lift, only poke or body.

6.) If it's 1v1 in front of the net for position, always tie up, never try to poke at a pass. Your player will automatically intercept a puck more often than you can poke a cross creaser. Same goes if there's more guys in the crease than defender, never poke at a pass, just trust your skater to intercept it or hit the guy as long as he is in the "penalty free zone." Again, your skater will do the right thing more often than you poking the puck away with RB.

#732 jza1218

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:19 AM

Ah, I didn't think you were bad offensively. You had at least one multi-goal game that I can remember. Brandon and I talk about this all the time though. That's where having a forward line where all 3 people can step up and make plays is critical. We all have nights where we just can't seem to find the back of the net, and we need our linemates to step up and carry the team for a game or two.


Oh I agree 100%. That's why I love playing with you and Brandon on the forward line. I know that even if I can't score, you guys will. I know early on I had some success, it just felt like I had a hart time getting shots through, finding good passes, etc. Probably my imagination.

Our defense against that douchebag team was amazing. Especially after we fell behind 1-0. Just a complete and total shutdown at that point. It's why, when the 5 of us are playing, I try and make the point that we should challenge ourselves a little more against Elite teams. I think we can hold our own with some of those teams, and it could help make us better in the long term.

#733 Vulcan2422

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:29 AM

All great points Alan. When playing D I think the only time I let go of LT is when skating into their zone. I also am one to take the body in front of the net. Not always jostle but hit them as they move. I will say, we have played with each other so long that our positioning is flawless and we can read each other so well. I know if I crash the net, I have two options. Alan moves to the right and either Nate or a winger will drop back. Thats how it's suppose to go how ever. Playing hockey IRL for two years now has also helped my play as well. Just takes a game or two for me to warm up how ever.

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Granted I only played the demo of Chime, but how the heck do you get shit on by Chime?


#734 n8rockerasu

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:47 AM

For me, general rules of thumb on D are:

1.) 90% of the time, I'm LT-ing 100% of the time (I seldom let go of LT, really only if someone seems to be able to pass me up and I can't be back-skating or im going to get beat)

2.) If i'm, within arms reach, stick lift. Otherwise, poke.

3.) For LB dekes, poke during the deke itself, body after the deke

4.) For RS dangling, if my player is facing a direction where he doesn't need to turn/rotate to face the puck carrier (which is a majority of the time since I LT so much), stick lift, otherwise poke if it's a straight shot from my stick to the puck (so I dont reach thru the feet), otherwise, go for the body.

5.) If someone is skating perpendicular to my direction, never stick lift, only poke or body.

6.) If it's 1v1 in front of the net for position, always tie up, never try to poke at a pass. Your player will automatically intercept a puck more often than you can poke a cross creaser. Same goes if there's more guys in the crease than defender, never poke at a pass, just trust your skater to intercept it or hit the guy as long as he is in the "penalty free zone." Again, your skater will do the right thing more often than you poking the puck away with RB.


Shit, this is going in the NHL 13 OP, lol. Really good advice, and basically a "paint by number" for anyone who wants to improve their defense. It's just too bad most people got scared off when challenged with elevating their play (considering how many people initially joined the team). Outside of "The Playoff 5", it's really just Destro and Magic. Definitely info they could benefit from though.

#735 Vulcan2422

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 04:35 AM

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Granted I only played the demo of Chime, but how the heck do you get shit on by Chime?


#736 moojuice

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:20 AM

Gonna leave this little gem here:



Also, this totally happened while uploading ( I know this is NHL 12, was typo at first, decided to just run with it)

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#737 n8rockerasu

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 01:28 PM

^LOL...holy shit! Yeah, it really blows my mind to hear EA continually brag about their "real world physics". What I want to know is what the hell business do they have even discussing physics? Are they scientists all of a sudden? It's like listening to a high school football player brag about getting a C- on his Biology test. Really? You have a complete grasp on the subject now, do you? And they're doing the same shit with Madden 13 now. I can't wait to see what ridiculous glitches happen in that game. Bend your body around a tackle? PHYSICS!!!

#738 jza1218

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:14 PM

Physics! Now since....(offstage whisper) new for NHL 2014!

#739 n8rockerasu

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:33 AM

Anybody up for NHL tonight? I probably won't be able to play tomorrow, so I was hoping to get some games in tonight. I should be on around 10 PM EST.

#740 jza1218

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 01:00 AM

I might play for a little tonight.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 01:50 AM

Tonight works better for me this week as well.

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#743 n8rockerasu

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:44 AM

LOL at these ridiculous videos lately. What the hell is going on with this game???

Also, this is what I was referring to



#744 jza1218

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 05:14 PM

The only thing that would have made that hit even more epic was if the glass broke.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:28 PM

The only thing that would have made that hit even more epic was if the glass broke.


Yeah, I want to see someone fly into the stands. Maybe we can request that for NHL 14. Hurricane kicks that send players flying into the stands. I think that would really show off the new physics engine.

#746 Vulcan2422

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:21 PM

Fatalities, coming NHL 15!

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Granted I only played the demo of Chime, but how the heck do you get shit on by Chime?


#747 jza1218

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 11:58 PM

I demand blood and guts in my game.

#748 Vulcan2422

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 12:46 AM

I don't see why no blood, it happens from time to time.

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Granted I only played the demo of Chime, but how the heck do you get shit on by Chime?


#749 Matt Young

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 01:10 AM

Yes, but it would suck to randomly get a double minor since the game decided your opponent would bleed on a high stick.

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 01:28 AM

Yes, but it would suck to randomly get a double minor since the game decided your opponent would bleed on a high stick.


You already randomly get double minors, might as well at least draw the blood too.