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#151 dohdough

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:38 PM

Thanks Rig. I have the time in the mornings to devote to it, I think. I go to the Bally's near my house for about 90 minutes before work. I might have to memorize the routines or write them down in a notebook or something because there's no way I can work out at home - I'd wake the kids. I've been doing some reading about it and watching youtube videos, etc. and pretty much everyone says that it works if you stick to the program. I'd like to give it a shot just for fun and if it really does work and I can have a nice flat six-pack by the end of March I'll take it. Seems like a big commitment though - 6 times a week? That's a lot for me.

6 times a week for 3 months PLUS a strict diet if you want that six pack. There's simply no way to do it without that strict diet.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:47 PM

6 times a week for 3 months PLUS a strict diet if you want that six pack. There's simply no way to do it without that strict diet.


yeah, of course - diet is not really an issue for me. I already eat pretty good and I have a lot of willpower for stuff like this... usually. 3 months isn't that long though - hopefully it can be maintained by toning it down to 4 times a week and a decent (but not insane) diet. Nothing else to do in the winter - might as well get ripped!

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:17 PM

Months ago, I had 'downloaded a demo'... of "Insanity".. I did the "test" like it says for the first day. I ROFLMAO'D at myself, and went to get some cheese fries.

That truly was insane. I don't mind working out, just not like that. I soon hope that "surge" of desire hits me. Yanno, that feeling that you WANT to work out and focus on eating healthy. At the moment, I just don't care. It'll happen, though.

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#154 dohdough

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 10:34 PM

yeah, of course - diet is not really an issue for me. I already eat pretty good and I have a lot of willpower for stuff like this... usually. 3 months isn't that long though - hopefully it can be maintained by toning it down to 4 times a week and a decent (but not insane) diet. Nothing else to do in the winter - might as well get ripped!

Good luck, homie. I'm rooting for ya.

Personally, no P90X or Insanity for me. I don't feel the need to restrict myself to chicken, fish, and veggies just to look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club. I'll settle for Daniel Craig in Casino Royale.:lol:

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 10:48 PM

i say go for P90X, it really is a good program. i did it for one month like 4 years ago and was in the best shape of my life, 185 pounds and could see all my muscles. im kicking myself for not doing the entire 3 months. fast forward to now and im doing regular ass P90 and its kicking my ass. im seriously having trouble losing weight i just have no motivation what so ever. i mean i do my workouts and try eating right but nothings happening yet and im a month in.
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#156 dohdough

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 10:54 PM

i say go for P90X, it really is a good program. i did it for one month like 4 years ago and was in the best shape of my life, 185 pounds and could see all my muscles. im kicking myself for not doing the entire 3 months. fast forward to now and im doing regular ass P90 and its kicking my ass. im seriously having trouble losing weight i just have no motivation what so ever. i mean i do my workouts and try eating right but nothings happening yet and im a month in.

A month in isn't that long and as you get older, your body reacts differently especially if your starting point isn't the same as 4 years ago. Not to mention that despite looking the same or being the same weight, having more endurance and being able to work harder is a better metric.

3-6 months at minimum is a better time frame.

#157 Javery

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 12:22 AM

i say go for P90X, it really is a good program. i did it for one month like 4 years ago and was in the best shape of my life, 185 pounds and could see all my muscles. im kicking myself for not doing the entire 3 months. fast forward to now and im doing regular ass P90 and its kicking my ass. im seriously having trouble losing weight i just have no motivation what so ever. i mean i do my workouts and try eating right but nothings happening yet and im a month in.


You might be doing it wrong. You should see some results after a month although the older you get the more important the diet becomes so if you are just trying to eat right but not actually doing it all of the time it will be much harder to see results even if you are exercising. For me (at 37), I'd say diet is 70% of the effort - I was exercising regularly and kind of sort of eating right for the better part of 10 years with nothing to show for it. I was in OK shape but I wouldn't say no to a third slice of pizza or beer just figuring I should be allowed to eat that stuff whenever because I was working out 5-6 days a week.

IMO if you really focus on the diet the rest will come. I'm pretty strict about my diet but I don't deprive myself of anything - I've had pizza, sushi and burgers on the weekends in the past month - but the key is to never overeat - yet I work out less (3-4 times a week) but I'm in the best shape I've been in and I'm completely motivated. YMMV. Good luck!:D

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#158 seanr1221

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 12:55 AM

Javery, what's your routine look like?

An hour of cardio then what? What's the cardio like?

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:16 AM

I run on the treadmill at 8.8 now (I started at 6.0 and increased 0.1 each week for the most part with some weeks keeping it steady). I do 5 minutes on 4.2, 25 minutes on 8.8 and then 5 minutes on 9.3 which is pretty much a sprint for me. Then I do another 3 minutes on 4.2 to cool down. Next I do a 15 minute ab routine (crunches, leg lifts, etc.) and then I do 30 minutes on the elliptical - I alternate between a steady 30 minutes and doing 2 minute sprints and 1 minute slow for 30 minutes depending on how i'm feeling. Once a week (on the weekend) I spend another 20-25 minutes doing a circuit around the gym with light weights trying to hit everything. I go Monday, Wednesday and Friday and then either Saturday or Sunday.

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#160 seanr1221

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:19 AM

Damn 25 minutes at 8.8?

I don't have anywhere near that endurance. How long did it take you to go from 6.0-8.8?

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:38 AM

Probably about 30-35 weeks. It was slow and steady. I'm going to stop increasing the speed when I get to 9.0... maybe.

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#162 seanr1221

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:46 AM

I've been so bored of my lifting routine to the point where I'm forcing myself to maybe go 2-3 times a week now (where I was steady 5 days a week for a few years).

Maybe a major jolt of cardio is what I need...

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#163 Javery

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:24 AM

Time to switch things up when that happens. Easier said than done though - I know how easy it is to get into a rut.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:42 AM

Probably about 30-35 weeks. It was slow and steady. I'm going to stop increasing the speed when I get to 9.0... maybe.

Great way to scare people off!:lol:

But good info to show that amazing results take time. It took me about 9 months to go from maxing out at 30-35 push ups to 80-85. My upper arm looks like a banana because I ignored my biceps along with my mid and side delts, but my tri's and front delts look great! LOLZ

#165 Rig

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:03 AM

I'vs been doing high weight/low reps since July...and nearly 5-6 days a week.

But, I decided to give the 3 days a week a go.

I really feel like I want to be back at the five a week...the off nights feel terrible. But, if the rest is improving my muscles, I'm all for that...I dunno.

#166 Javery

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 10:56 PM

Great way to scare people off!:lol:


yeah - if there's one thing I learned over the years it's that there is no miracle quick fix and the older you get the longer it takes to get back into shape. When I was 21 I could gain 15 lbs. in a semester of binge drinking and late night Taco Bell and then lose it all in the first 2-3 weeks of summer easy. Now losing 15 lbs. is about a 2 month process... getting old sucks.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 12:14 AM

yeah - if there's one thing I learned over the years it's that there is no miracle quick fix and the older you get the longer it takes to get back into shape. When I was 21 I could gain 15 lbs. in a semester of binge drinking and late night Taco Bell and then lose it all in the first 2-3 weeks of summer easy. Now losing 15 lbs. is about a 2 month process... getting old sucks.

No joke, homie. I miss the endurance.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 11:09 AM

Can't remember if I stopped by this thread before, but as recommended by Dohdough, figured I would if I haven't yet.

Really need to start losing weight.

Age: 25
Weight: about 280
Height: 5'11"
Lifestyle: Being a rock

My job I sit around at a computer all day and when I get home I sit around and do nothing for the most part. I generally have normal blood pressure, but the last time it was checked it was...quite high. Could have been nerves from knowing I was going to get my blood drawn (I HATE needles) but regardless, I need to do something.

I've tried joining a gym, but didn't quite have the motivation to go and the cost was starting to kill us. The wife and I decided to save up to get a treadmill, so we should have one by the end of December as that will be one of our Christmas presents.

Generally, I've always been a bigger kid and have never really been in shape. Even during high school when I played football and lifted weights, I was always fat and ran out of breath easily. While I never got checked, I have a feeling I might have at least a small case of asthma as even in the best shape I have ever been in, I always found myself breathing heavy during small tasks.

So why not, drop by this thread and see if I can improve my weight once and for all. I would love to drop below 250 again, but my main goal is to be below 200lbs which I haven't seen since before high school.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 11:51 AM

I've tried joining a gym, but didn't quite have the motivation to go and the cost was starting to kill us. The wife and I decided to save up to get a treadmill, so we should have one by the end of December as that will be one of our Christmas presents.

A treadmill is a major investment for someone who admits to lacking motivation. Also, using one is unbelievably boring imo.

Diet takes precedent over you fitness routine. Spend a week evaluating it. Figure out what your body needs and how much you're currently taking in. Count every calorie. Get that sorted out before worrying about exercise.

As for fitness, cardio is important but don't neglect weight training. Bigger muscles mean faster metabolism. Skip the treadmill (for now) and get a complete home gym. Save money and buy used if you want. A simple bench and some adjustable dumbbells make a great starting point and will pay huge dividends in the long run.

Above all else, GET MOTIVATED. Working out is easy when you're working towards a goal that's truly important to you.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 12:57 PM

A treadmill is a major investment for someone who admits to lacking motivation. Also, using one is unbelievably boring imo.

Diet takes precedent over you fitness routine. Spend a week evaluating it. Figure out what your body needs and how much you're currently taking in. Count every calorie. Get that sorted out before worrying about exercise.

As for fitness, cardio is important but don't neglect weight training. Bigger muscles mean faster metabolism. Skip the treadmill (for now) and get a complete home gym. Save money and buy used if you want. A simple bench and some adjustable dumbbells make a great starting point and will pay huge dividends in the long run.

Above all else, GET MOTIVATED. Working out is easy when you're working towards a goal that's truly important to you.


Thanks for the pointers.

Diet is definately not what it should be. I eat out way too much, and when I do eat it's not exactly what I SHOULD be eating. Add in the soda and my love for Kit Kats (which I have to get every time I go to the gas station) and it takes its toll on me for sure.

For weights, I can not bench. Not only do I not have strength in my arms, my elbows have this popping that isn't only bothersome but also kind of hurts every time I extend them when I lift. It's not so bad with dumbells (which I need to figure out where I put those) but it's still noticeable.

With the treadmill, part of the motivation is not wanting to just walk and listen to music. I think I would be okay putting it in front of a tv to take my mind off what I'm doing, but I hate working out in front of a lot of people and watching the news (or whatever the gym normally has on) isn't exactly keeping me engaged.

I'll also have to remember to download that app later to keep track of my diet.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 01:29 PM

Loseit.com (or some other diet monitoring source.)

The number one thing someone can do to succeed is be aware of what they're consuming - use a website, app, excel sheet, notepad, whatever. It is eyeopening what we're really consuming (I'll bet that KitKat is 250 calories, which is over 10% of an average persons' daily intake needs. That said, I had a Nutrageous candy bar last week and loved it, and don't regret it.)

The number two thing is don't bar yourself from occasional enjoyment of the things you enjoy - just make room for them, and eat them less often. I still eat pizza, chocolate, and drink beer - life wouldn't be life without them.

Eating out is scary - I used to eat out a lot too, and still do sometimes, but I'm making slightly better choices (Mongolian grill instead of tons of fried stuff, for example).

Set multiple reasonable goals - my original goal was 30 pounds lost, and it probably should have been a little less. That lets you have multiple opportunities to succeed.

Treadmills are tough, but better with something to take your mind off. Set a goal/target with that as well - if you're not a runner, maybe try the Couch to 5k Program (C25K) - it will give you a way to work on, and make, incremental progress. It works on treadmill or outside/on a track. I went from running nothing, to running a 5k, in just a few months.

It's really simple, but challenging - consume less (but still the right amount for your body), consume more of the right stuff, and be active more - which can be anywhere from walking the stairs at work/school, to running marathons - where ever your body and fitness level is.

Find a support system - here, the websites for the tools (again, I like Loseit.com), local people, Meetup group, etc.

The motivation does have to come from inside - until you realize "I want to do this", all the people telling you "You need to do this" won't make a difference. But having a support system can help that motivation going.

Realize you can do it, and don't let small stumbles mean failure to you - it's a long term habit change, quick-loss doesn't work.

And be proud of yourself for making the decision and taking the first steps :)

#172 dohdough

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:24 PM

Can't remember if I stopped by this thread before, but as recommended by Dohdough, figured I would if I haven't yet.

Really need to start losing weight.

Age: 25
Weight: about 280
Height: 5'11"
Lifestyle: Being a rock

My job I sit around at a computer all day and when I get home I sit around and do nothing for the most part. I generally have normal blood pressure, but the last time it was checked it was...quite high. Could have been nerves from knowing I was going to get my blood drawn (I HATE needles) but regardless, I need to do something.

I've tried joining a gym, but didn't quite have the motivation to go and the cost was starting to kill us. The wife and I decided to save up to get a treadmill, so we should have one by the end of December as that will be one of our Christmas presents.

Generally, I've always been a bigger kid and have never really been in shape. Even during high school when I played football and lifted weights, I was always fat and ran out of breath easily. While I never got checked, I have a feeling I might have at least a small case of asthma as even in the best shape I have ever been in, I always found myself breathing heavy during small tasks.

So why not, drop by this thread and see if I can improve my weight once and for all. I would love to drop below 250 again, but my main goal is to be below 200lbs which I haven't seen since before high school.

Welcome aboard!

Good tips so far. Couch to 5k is a great start as is the 100 pushups/squat/sit-ups/etc programs. It's important to start slow and start with smaller goals. If you've gone through the thread, you'll see that it takes a lot of time to get fit...like several months+, but you also have to remember that it took years to get where you are now. Sonce you have a partner, it'll be even more important to try and stay motivated because you can drag eachother down.

As for the snapping elbows, you just have to learn the range of motion you're able to make and work around it. Thankfully, mine went away as I got in better shape. A bench and some dumbells will pay off better than a treadmill. Depending on where you live, running/walking outdoors will also give you some fresh air and if you're close enough, you can exercise while running errands.

Good luck!

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:40 PM

Welcome 4thHorseman!

All good advice coming from Allnatural, dtcarson and dohdough. A treadmill is something that the wife and I bought when we first got our house and I never used it. She used it sparingly but never enough to justify the purchase - it sits out in our detached garage and is probably ruined by now due to the weather changes.

Getting to the gym is important, IMO - or at least out of the house to exercise. The change of scenery is necessary to keep you motivated and once you are in a routine you will look forward to it. I get up at 5 pretty much with no alarm now and I go to bed the night before a little excited about it - totally nuts considering I used to dread it.

As others have already said, diet is key. This cannot be stressed enough. Ditch the Kit Kats and the soda and the eating out. Save that stuff for a once a week/every other week treat. Also, if you can get off the soda you will honestly never go back to it. I used to drink 3 or 4 cans of Coke a day right out of college - I loved that stuff - but it is literally disgusting to me now. I drink nothing but water (love it) and Gatorade (G2 - only 40 calories a bottle!) the occasional beer (once a month, if that) but when I try soda now it is so sweet and tastes like straight syrup - gross. I still have a sweet tooth and Halloween through Christmas is tough for me because there is so much candy around this time of year but I manage. I don't deprive myself of anything - it is unrealistic to think you are never going to eat something shitty or have a candy bar again in your life but you just have to do it all in moderation.

dtcarson is exactly right and I couldn't say this better myself:

The motivation does have to come from inside - until you realize "I want to do this", all the people telling you "You need to do this" won't make a difference. But having a support system can help that motivation going.

Realize you can do it, and don't let small stumbles mean failure to you - it's a long term habit change, quick-loss doesn't work.

And be proud of yourself for making the decision and taking the first steps :)



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Posted 30 November 2011 - 07:36 PM

With the treadmill, part of the motivation is not wanting to just walk and listen to music. I think I would be okay putting it in front of a tv to take my mind off what I'm doing, but I hate working out in front of a lot of people and watching the news (or whatever the gym normally has on) isn't exactly keeping me engaged.

If you're able to watch tv while working out, you're probably not working hard enough. It's better than nothing, and I'm not implying that you should be running full pelt at all times, but a good workout requires focus. Tv shifts that focus elsewhere. This will be especially important if/when you start weight training.

Music is fine of course. Play whatever gets the blood pumping, but even that will likely fade into the background when you really commit yourself to your routine.

#175 blindinglights

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 10:47 PM

If you're able to watch tv while working out, you're probably not working hard enough. It's better than nothing, and I'm not implying that you should be running full pelt at all times, but a good workout requires focus. Tv shifts that focus elsewhere. This will be especially important if/when you start weight training.

Music is fine of course. Play whatever gets the blood pumping, but even that will likely fade into the background when you really commit yourself to your routine.



Listen to what this guy is saying.

Wanting to watch TV while working out is not a good way to start. It's starting out with a lazy attitude and that is the absolute worst way to get going on a weight loss plan.

#176 Dead of Knight

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:19 AM

Fark all y'all, I just got an elliptical and there is nothing better than just being able to go downstairs and use it while watching the Angry Nintendo Nerd on my laptop. I've already seen them all so there is no need to pay real attention. And the thing will pay for itself over a couple years over a gym membership.

If watching TV is going to get him motivated to begin to work out, then so be it. When he get serious and actually enjoys seeing results and working out, then he can ditch the TV.
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#177 dohdough

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 05:00 AM

If watching TV is going to get him motivated to begin to work out, then so be it. When he get serious and actually enjoys seeing results and working out, then he can ditch the TV.

I agree. Focus will come later. Although, there's an argument to be made for as few distractions as possible because you can hurt yourself if you're not paying attention to what you're doing.

As long as you're taking it easy, it shouldn't be a problem.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 01:05 PM

And if the alternative is sitting on the couch watching TV, and you spend that same time treadmilling and watching TV, you will see a benefit. Slowly of course, but some activity is better than none (assuming nothing else changes).

You'll see benefits faster by really pushing yourself (within your limits) in a workout, but even minor small changes like walking the stairs at work/school and parking far away in parking lots will make a difference. If you spend your TV time walking instead of sitting, that's an upgrade.

A lot of people aren't successful because they want to go from being Joe Sofa to Schwarzenegger in a week, and it doesn't work that way. If it takes treadmill and TV to get started, that's better than not starting at all.

I do agree that a change of environment can help keep it novel and interesting. Disadvantage is that it's difficult to compare - I kept using the same route on my C25K because then I could more easily see improvement. But it did get boring.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 01:55 PM

Weekly update:

Age: 37
Height: 6'-0"
December 2, 2011: 183.0
NEW GOAL: 180 lbs.

Still working...

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#180 dejeckt

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 03:42 AM

Age: 24
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 160 lbs (estimated body fat %: 22%)
Goal: cut down body fat to 10% ~ 12% by Christmas

I highlight body fat cause I'm not interested in losing weight, but cutting down on excess fat. How do you guys lose weight while retaining muscle mass?


So far I'm at 145 lbs; was originally at 140lbs but kind of slacked off with Thanksgiving and all. I'm not exactly sure how much of it is bodyfat though.