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CAGcast #258: Now with 75% More Batman


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#1 CheapyD

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:07 AM

Wombat wants a world with more Batman, Shipwreck wants less Spyro, and Cheapy takes a picture with his iPhone 4S.

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#2 Bawb

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:21 AM

As much as I want to stay up and listen to this, I shall hold onto it until my morning drive(s).

#3 adriley313

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:44 AM

Sweetness, will DL and listen tonite b4 bed and in the morning.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 04:08 AM

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#5 Karnivor

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 04:08 AM

I had no idea that Rachet & Clank: All 4 for one was released on Tuesday, but I rented it and it rocks. Do you think the Rachet & Clank games are one of the best franchises PlayStation has?

Rachet & Clank: All 4 One == 5 out of 5 boltastic

Great podcast every week and zip a dee doo dah to all of you

#6 Sgt Barone

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 05:29 AM

Just downloaded! Can't wait to listen!

Here's to a great year of gaming in 2014   :beer:


#7 ZombieJeebus

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 05:35 AM

Yes! Thanks for finding the time to squeeze out a podcast this week.

btw, I finally caught up on the last few podcasts...and Cheapy's 'gggggggggggHHHHK!' when he was thinking of the spider in his room got me laughing so hard.

Can't say I blame you though Cheapy. I'd probably pee my pants if it happened to me.
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#8 eliter1

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 05:48 AM

I don't know why but every time someone asks Shipwreck a question and he says "mmmhhmmm" i crack up. Today it happened while I was at the library and people gave me THE look.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 06:45 AM

Please add to this

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 07:06 AM

I don't know why but every time someone asks Shipwreck a question and he says "mmmhhmmm" i crack up. Today it happened while I was at the library and people gave me THE look.


I hate THE Look! O_O I listen to a lot of podcast and sometimes I just have to let out a quiet laugh in public. You would think by now people would get that it's the things in my ear and not that I'm a nut. :p I get the same shit around older (non tech savvy) family members sometimes also when on a computer, they think I'm laughing at the computer since they don't get I could be chatting with someone or watching porn.... Gosh! :cry:

Thanks for the show guys, downloading to my computer box.
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#11 ChristHBK

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 07:45 AM

listening to it now... about the lightgun thing.... The exact same thing happened to me... I have the embarrasing photo to prove it... no way my girlfriend was a better shot...

I ended up figuring out that the game apprently is meant for wild button mashy shotting as opposed to actually trying to get the target... with the target has so much leeway wild blasting works better....
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#12 Doomtime

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:21 AM

listening to it now... about the lightgun thing.... The exact same thing happened to me... I have the embarrasing photo to prove it... no way my girlfriend was a better shot...

I ended up figuring out that the game apprently is meant for wild button mashy shotting as opposed to actually trying to get the target... with the target has so much leeway wild blasting works better....


Same thing happened to me two weeks ago. I got embarrassed by at least 50,000 points.

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#13 omnilaw

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 10:43 AM

Cheapy there are a ton of Sony Fanboys who I guess are not feeling your comment on Forza 4 being a better game I'm guessing huh? I would probably tell you and your boys to download GT5 Spec 2 and understand that the Forza series will continue to be a niche product, regardless of what the US media would like. That way you can save time during your podcast trying to promote something that on one is going to change their minds about. Love the Podcast keep up the good work :)

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Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 587,933 424,737 1,332,262 2,344,932 2,344,932

Forza 4
Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 235,192 N/A 280,224 515,416 515,416

Forza 3
Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 224,156 31,202 215,334 470,692 470,692

GT5 Prologue
Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 145,296 109,356 400,292 654,944 654,944

#14 repete

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 11:09 AM

good show
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#15 Darknyss

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:03 PM

Cheapy, the Haunted Mansion isn't always NMBC themed. They change it up during Halloween. I was in Disneyland last October and it was like that.

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#16 CheapyD

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:29 PM

Cheapy there are a ton of Sony Fanboys who I guess are not feeling your comment on Forza 4 being a better game I'm guessing huh? I would probably tell you and your boys to download GT5 Spec 2 and understand that the Forza series will continue to be a niche product, regardless of what the US media would like. That way you can save time during your podcast trying to promote something that on one is going to change their minds about. Love the Podcast keep up the good work :)

GT5
Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 587,933 424,737 1,332,262 2,344,932 2,344,932

Forza 4
Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 235,192 N/A 280,224 515,416 515,416

Forza 3
Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 224,156 31,202 215,334 470,692 470,692

GT5 Prologue
Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 145,296 109,356 400,292 654,944 654,944


Sales numbers do not make a thing great. See the Transformers movies for proof of that.
Regardless, the Gran Turismo series has been around for twice as long as Forza, so it's not exactly a fair fight in that regard. If you want to compare numbers, how about Metacritic scores?

#17 acolon

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:51 PM

Downloading now .. All I know is the BMQ in this podcast is at a decent level ....

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:00 PM

Cheapy, get those spring loaded hand-exercisers (http://www.amazon.co...19205487&sr=8-8) with a fairly high resistance. That and 20-30 arm curls (per arm) to build up the writs muscles will help with your hand-ache problems.

I'm 38 (a few months older than you) and have been gaming since '75 and this works for me.

#19 ZombieJeebus

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:31 PM

about 40 minutes in

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good show otherwise. Bless the Cagcast :)
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#20 Liveforlaughs76

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:45 PM

Wombat and Ship are right, iCarly is fucking awesome. Cheapy's just hating because 16 year old girls are about 5 years too old for men in Japan.

#21 Kung Fu ZEPHYR

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:55 PM

Sales numbers do not make a thing great. See the Transformers movies for proof of that.
Regardless, the Gran Turismo series has been around for twice as long as Forza, so it's not exactly a fair fight in that regard. If you want to compare numbers, how about Metacritic scores?


Cheapy, I see your point about comparing Metacritic scores in lieu of sales figures, but I think its possible to compare sales figures if you apply a bit more context to the comparison. For example, I don't think its fair to compare sales figures on games with an "E for Everyone" rating since the demographic that purchases that type of game ranges widely from hardcore gamers (i.e. you) to over-protective soccer moms that only buy the game simply because it has an "E" rating. With that in mind, you are right when you say that you can't compare sales figures between Forza 4 and GT5.

On the other hand, I think its fair to compare sales figures on games with "M for Mature" (and possibly "T for Teen") ratings since the demographic that purchases those games is rather limited to hard core gamers and as such, it is possible to compare games within their own genre. For example, it is conceivable to compare FPS games such as Call of Duty: Black Ops (released 2010) to Battlefield:Bad Company 2 (2010) based on sales figures. The same logic could be applied to RPG games such as Fallout 3 (2008) and Mass Effect (2007).

I guess my point is that you shouldn't automatically discount the approach of comparing sales figures without putting things in an appropriate perspective.

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#22 omnilaw

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:03 PM

Cheapy you're right about sales don't mean anything but that's usually a staple of many of your arguments isn't it? Don't you even go as far as to look at pre orders using your amazon tool? I agree that sales and reviews mean very little but hearing you say that I hope you remember that when comparing sony games and MS games on your show going forward. The fact that forza sold so poorly even in the US is kind of my staple in the argument that reviews and gaming sites are on their way out. I think podcasts are good for killing time and listening to people's opinions but I think once they realize they don't influence the industry in any signifcant way, they'll talk about all games, platforms without the spin or wasted hype.

It may seem like I'm giving you shit, but I would prefer to see your podcast any many others thrive by avoiding looking like douche bags

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:07 PM

Sales numbers do not make a thing great. See the Transformers movies for proof of that.
Regardless, the Gran Turismo series has been around for twice as long as Forza, so it's not exactly a fair fight in that regard. If you want to compare numbers, how about Metacritic scores?




The average metascore of the 5 main GT games is 91.4.
The average metascore of the 4 main Forza games is 91.25.
They are pretty much even in regards to review scores.

#24 Wombat

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:20 PM

But we can all agree that Batman is better than both Forza and Gran Turismo.

#25 CheapyD

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:22 PM

The average metascore of the 5 main GT games is 91.4.
The average metascore of the 4 main Forza games is 91.25.
They are pretty much even in regards to review scores.


Wouldn't the most important # be the scores of the most recent games? Are you going to go back and play Gran Turismo 2 or Forza 1?

Gran Turismo 5: 84
Forza 4: 91

Anyway, I didn't even mention GT or Forza on this week's show so why is it even being discussed here?

#26 ZombieJeebus

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:25 PM

GT5 took way too long to come out. When it finally did it was obvious that they shoehorned features just to keep up with Forza.

Sales for GT5 are good because there is a substantial built in fanbase. But it is not a growing fanbase. I have no idea if Forza is growing or not (it seems like it is), but they are not spending 60 million dollars + to release one game.

PD was able to get away with taking forever and spending crazy money to release GT games when they were the only game in town. If they take SEVEN YEARS to release GT6 it will be the last GT game.
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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:29 PM

If you want to compare numbers, how about Metacritic scores?


To quote a wise man, I don't know if it's really worth talking about stupid shit like that. :) Also, I don't recall Forza 4 or GT 5 being mentioned on this show, so why did omnilaw even bring it up?

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#28 Kyrox

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:33 PM

Batman > Everything in 2011

I still think it is really shitty that I cannot use my 1970s skin until I play the game for the 2nd time.

#29 Curufinwe

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:40 PM

Batman > Everything in 2011

I still think it is really shitty that I cannot use my 1970s skin until I play the game for the 2nd time.


I think you can use the skins in the challenges, which should make playing them over and over again more visually interesting. It might even make them slightly easier by making Batman stand out more from the thugs he's beating up. I was up till 1am last night trying to get 24,000 on the first challenge, which I finally got when I beat all four rounds without taking any damage to get a 5,000 point bonus.

I didn't get any skins caused I ordered from Amazon. Just that dumb comic.

#30 crobledo4116

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 03:45 PM

Just downloaded! Can't wait to listen to it... Keep up the great work and I love the Podcast. Thanks!