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#61 rbarba4

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 05:37 AM

I couldn't possibly imagine Best Buy having guitar techs on hand, so I'm going to confidently say no.

Guitar Center yes, but I'm not sure if all advertise it. Just ask the salesperson that will tend to you. Also, if you buy the stuff at the shop, you will be surprised at what you can sometimes get for free by just saying this...

"So...if I buy this guitar right now, is there something you could possibly do to sweeten the deal for a beginner?"

Those magic words can usually score you a few free things...like strings, picks, and even a strap. It's worked for me over the years and I should know...since 19, I was employed at almost every local guitar/music store in my area. I learned a lot (not just about guitar hardware/etc.)...but especially what we, as retailers, could give customers off the top (up to instant 10% off price and/or include free perks like a grab bag of free strings, picks, other accessories) if they only asked. It was a little secret amongst those in the know.

Then again, it's been a few years since then, and with the economy the way it is now, I can't guarantee any free extra perks.

But you should be good with at least a free setup at minimum to make sure the neck is straight and the guitar is intonated properly with little to no fret buzzing. Don't forget...just ask!


Thanks Smiley. Definitely good to know. Wonder how receprtive they would be to someone who orders online and ships to store?

I actually called the only local GC store after seeing Confus' post that they didn't have the guitar in stock and they told me the same thing. Would have been nice to get hands on. But they were willing to start the order process and he also told me about the promo deal. He even tried to force free shipping but the system denied it.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 06:00 AM

Smiley, any recommendations for an electric acoustic guitar? On the cheaper/beginner side of the spectrum? I really want to get this game but want to play acoustic.
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#63 Confucius

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 06:08 AM

Thanks Smiley. Definitely good to know. Wonder how receprtive they would be to someone who orders online and ships to store?

I actually called the only local GC store after seeing Confus' post that they didn't have the guitar in stock and they told me the same thing. Would have been nice to get hands on. But they were willing to start the order process and he also told me about the promo deal. He even tried to force free shipping but the system denied it.


yeah, I'm thinking they're not gonna give you free setup. but it doesn't hurt to ask.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 07:03 AM

Smiley, any recommendations for an electric acoustic guitar? On the cheaper/beginner side of the spectrum? I really want to get this game but want to play acoustic.


One of my personal favorite acoustic/electric guitar manufacturers is Seagull, but they usually go for $400 and up, so I guess those are out of the question. ;)

My first advice though would be to stick with a cutaway body design for easy access to the upper frets. Also, you'll be hard-pressed to find good ones for less than $200, give or take. But within this price, there are a few good/great a/e guitars available with a cutaway design.

The Ibanez V Series V70CE Dreadnought Cutaway is nice with mahogany neck, back, and sides with a spruce top.

From Musiciansfriend:

http://www.musicians...electric-guitar

Or Guitar Center:

http://www.guitarcen...492-i1150613.gc

There's also Applause (by Ovation, a reputable company) that make good stuff for the price. Like the Applause AE128 Super Shallow A/E. It has a really comfortable roundback design made of composite with a spruce top. The neck on this thing is thin, so it will make it easier to play for a beginner....especially compared to more tradition dreadnought guitars. But the tone will be somewhat lacking I assume due to the utilization of the composite material to construct the roundback design, as well as its shallow depth. I also expect the resonance to be affected a bit too. I can't say for sure on this particular model, but I have experienced this from some other low-mid range priced composite roundbacks I've played in the past. But it might not be something you notice, at least as a beginner.

Musiciansfriend:

http://www.musicians...electric-guitar

Guitar Center:

http://www.guitarcen...919-i1176013.gc

Here's a link with other a/e's $200 and under. But IMO, the Ibazez I listed seems like a solid buy. But like anything...do your research before you buy. If you decide to get one and narrow it down, I'll be glad to help if you need more advice.

http://www.musicians...c&catId=site1AC

EDIT: Amazon has the Applause by Ovation AE128-4 for $166.25 w/ FSSS. That's a pretty damn good deal right there actually.

http://www.amazon.co...20736145&sr=8-2

And the Applause by Ovation AE128-5 for $185.82 with FSSS.

http://www.amazon.co...20736145&sr=8-1


Sorry...almost forgot. Here's link to Amazon for their a/e's $200 and under.

http://www.amazon.co...&rnid=386685011

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 07:45 AM


Did you ask someone in the music dept? Because the store I hit up didn't have a display model of the guitar. They didn't even have copies of the game out on the floor. The clerk brought the guitar out from the back and opened upthe box to show it to me. He then had to go look for the game in another backroom


yes, i asked. the stores selection was very limited and they never even heard of the deal. When i showed them the link they told me it was Online only...which obviously they had no clu what they were talking about since it says the guitar is In Store Only.

whatever. i'm sure i can get a decent guitar for a decent price.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 01:40 PM

Really enjoying this game. Haven't touched guitar in like 10 years, so grabbed the game and this - http://www.ibanez.co...rs/model-JS1600 (been eyeing the guitar before I knew about RS though). Good times.


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Posted 08 November 2011 - 01:57 PM

Wish I had known about the $20 coupon before I bought the game last week! Oh well...still having fun with the 80's Washburn G-10V that I haven't played for years! I have noticed some lag, and the compensation doesn't seem to help that much. I had read that using HDMI audio can make it worse, but I'm using toslink so idk...may try going analog to see if there's any improvement.
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Posted 08 November 2011 - 10:47 PM

ALSO, if you have a cool GameStop around that you frequent, it is worth noting that they still have the pre-order codes in their computer for RS (so that they can print them in case someone lost theirs or something)... My goos GS had NO issue printing me a code for the 2 preorder songs (Free Bird - Skynyrd and BodySnatchers - Radiohead)... More importantly, for those of you that may be buying a guitar, they can also print the OTHER preorder bonus - which was a $25 coupon off a guitar at Guitar Center - combined with any sales that GC runs (they usually do big sales at ALL holidays), you could get a good guitar that you can actually try out in store for pretty cheap.

@rbarba4 - at GC, you may get a cursory setup - I think GC charges $40 for a full run over by a tech... But I would say try it out first. If you get some insane buzzing on frets or the guitar is not sounding right below the 12th fret, you can do some of that stuff from Youtube videos (raising/lowering the bridge, fixing the intonation). Until you get serious about playing, don't really worry too much about that. Most guitars are close right out of the box... At GC, they probably have done at least a little noodling. They don;t want you to pick up an axe and have it sound like shit - especially for parents that come to get something for their kid to try out, so most all of them have at least been adjusted a little.

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#69 crazedracerguy

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 10:48 PM

I have noticed some lag, and the compensation doesn't seem to help that much. I had read that using HDMI audio can make it worse, but I'm using toslink so idk...may try going analog to see if there's any improvement.


Analog should help out GREATLY. Anything else lags like a bitch.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 10:56 PM

Really enjoying this game. Haven't touched guitar in like 10 years, so grabbed the game and this - http://www.ibanez.co...rs/model-JS1600 (been eyeing the guitar before I knew about RS though). Good times.



God damn, Pooky - you may be a cheap ass gamer, but you're not a cheap ass guitarist :) Nice axe.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 11:01 PM

Bodysnatchers? I do want that.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 11:35 PM

God damn, Pooky - you may be a cheap ass gamer, but you're not a cheap ass guitarist :) Nice axe.


Well, i did get it for clearance pricing - (ibanezrules.com if anyone interested) :lol:


#73 SmileyMcSmiles

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 01:02 AM

ALSO, if you have a cool GameStop around that you frequent, it is worth noting that they still have the pre-order codes in their computer for RS (so that they can print them in case someone lost theirs or something)... My goos GS had NO issue printing me a code for the 2 preorder songs (Free Bird - Skynyrd and BodySnatchers - Radiohead)... More importantly, for those of you that may be buying a guitar, they can also print the OTHER preorder bonus - which was a $25 coupon off a guitar at Guitar Center - combined with any sales that GC runs (they usually do big sales at ALL holidays), you could get a good guitar that you can actually try out in store for pretty cheap.

@rbarba4 - at GC, you may get a cursory setup - I think GC charges $40 for a full run over by a tech... But I would say try it out first. If you get some insane buzzing on frets or the guitar is not sounding right below the 12th fret, you can do some of that stuff from Youtube videos (raising/lowering the bridge, fixing the intonation). Until you get serious about playing, don't really worry too much about that. Most guitars are close right out of the box... At GC, they probably have done at least a little noodling. They don;t want you to pick up an axe and have it sound like shit - especially for parents that come to get something for their kid to try out, so most all of them have at least been adjusted a little.

Smiley - if you disagree, let me know. That's just what I had always found to be true and had always been told...


Yup...this is pretty much true for any guitar shop really. But at GC, some may slip through the cracks, especially during their Holiday sales when products are moving fast and new stuff is being placed on the floor at a quicker pace than normal.

Also, for non-Holiday times, even if a guitar is setup fine out of the box from the factory or tweaked in-store...the longer it sits in a store outside a case, the more likely it will need to be re-setup again to to varying temperature changes over time. Things like heat, cold, humidity levels...all cause the wood of a guitar to expand/contract. So the longer a guitar has been exposed to this, depending on the degree of temp. changes....it can require anything from minor tweaks to a complete re-setup.

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 01:10 AM

My first @Gamer showed up today with the RS coupon. Lots of good information in this thread now...what to do....
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#75 SmileyMcSmiles

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 01:13 AM

Well, i did get it for clearance pricing - (ibanezrules.com if anyone interested) :lol:


Very nice axe Pooky! I love Satch too BTW!

Here's my most recent baby...ESP LTD EC-1000 Deluxe...and I love it so much! Wasn't a surprise for those who know I'm a Hulk and Green Lantern fan. ;) The locking bridge and tuners are a couple of my favorite things about it...and the EMG pups. But mainly, it's simply orgasmic to play! I bought it when they were released (and since, this color is difficult to find new) but got a really good deal through an insider hookup for about $600.

http://www.sheltonsg...-02-28--08.html

Since it's been a few years, I've been thinking about buying another guitar. I might get another ESP (yes, I've become a bit of an ESP fanboy), but I'm also thinking about a Dean. I've played a bunch of Dean's but have yet to buy one.

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#76 rbarba4

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 01:35 AM

ALSO, if you have a cool GameStop around that you frequent, it is worth noting that they still have the pre-order codes in their computer for RS (so that they can print them in case someone lost theirs or something)... My goos GS had NO issue printing me a code for the 2 preorder songs (Free Bird - Skynyrd and BodySnatchers - Radiohead)...

@rbarba4 - at GC, you may get a cursory setup - I think GC charges $40 for a full run over by a tech... But I would say try it out first. If you get some insane buzzing on frets or the guitar is not sounding right below the 12th fret, you can do some of that stuff from Youtube videos (raising/lowering the bridge, fixing the intonation). Until you get serious about playing, don't really worry too much about that. Most guitars are close right out of the box... At GC, they probably have done at least a little noodling. They don;t want you to pick up an axe and have it sound like shit - especially for parents that come to get something for their kid to try out, so most all of them have at least been adjusted a little.

Smiley - if you disagree, let me know. That's just what I had always found to be true and had always been told...


Once again, I appreciate all the advice. Really nice being able to get this info from other CAGs

Thanks Crazedracer. my initial thought was that if there wasn't any visible damage it should be fine. That's my noob logic and I stand by it:lol:.

But figured it wouldn't hurt to ask so I went down to the BB where I bought it and spoke with the same guy who helped me. Turns out Bestbuy does perform setup service but charge regardless of it being a new purchase. It is company policy. Guy was kinda ashamed of that policy. He did tell me though that the guitar should be fine as he didn't see anything wrong that day. But if I notice problems to bring it in. Out of curiosity, I called another BB and asked the same thing. He told me the same thing but also said to just bring it in and he'll give it a once over since he doesn't agree with BB's policy

#77 Momouchi

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 02:06 AM

Does this game work with electric acoustics? I have an acoustic that can plug into an amp, so can I use it with this game?

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 02:16 AM

Does this game work with electric acoustics? I have an acoustic that can plug into an amp, so can I use it with this game?


Ubi Officially says that you can, but it may introduce feedback that you would not get through an electric. If you watch the videos, though, I saw a girl play one of the songs at 100% on an A/E guitar and it was fine...

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 03:07 PM

I tried one Best Buy in NYC last night, and though they had the Rocksmith bundle, they couldn't fulfill the deal because they interpreted the ad to say that you had to buy the guitar and game separately. YMMV, depending on the store, but I'd double check that your Best Buy has a musical instrument section first to increase your chances that they'll fulfill the deal.

#80 Japakneez

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Posted 09 November 2011 - 03:19 PM

If you haven't bought a guitar yet then i would suggest waiting till black friday. I can't imagine guitar center or some other major retailer not having a great deal within our price range and play level. Probably pickup a more complete package with amp, straps, and case.

#81 rbarba4

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 12:56 AM

I tried one Best Buy in NYC last night, and though they had the Rocksmith bundle, they couldn't fulfill the deal because they interpreted the ad to say that you had to buy the guitar and game separately. YMMV, depending on the store, but I'd double check that your Best Buy has a musical instrument section first to increase your chances that they'll fulfill the deal.


Sucks to hear that they wouldn't accomodate a deal since they didn't have the guitar in stock

Technically the deal is suppose to be buy the standalone guitar and the game. It's basically a bundle that BB put together. Though there was a CAG who had success getting an override on the official RS guitar bundle.

But there's been some good advice given about alternatives to the BB deal. Just requires a bit more leg work. Good luck

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A question to anyone who bought the game. I have a teenager interested in learning to play guitar, is this game worth it?


#83 rbarba4

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 11:55 AM

A question to anyone who bought the game. I have a teenager interested in learning to play guitar, is this game worth it?


To early for me to say as I haven't put in enough time, but I am digging my time with it. No regrets yet.

But did have issues today with fret buzz, so spent time searching for possible causes and some safe fixes. Raised the bridge a little and it eliminated most of it except for buzz on the first string. Gonna adjust it a little more tomorrow to see if I can eliminate it completely. If that doesn't do it then I'll be taking it to a tech

And can anyone recommend a good place to get guitar cables at a cheap price. Want to hook up an extension cable that has a right-angle M plug to a straight F plug . Figure its the best way to eliminate stress on the pack-in cable

#84 drastion

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:55 PM

Just saw guitar centers black friday. They have rocksmith for 59.99 and you get 25 in credit towards a guitar 99 or more.

Anyone know if these deals are online I dont even have a store in my state.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 09:04 PM

To early for me to say as I haven't put in enough time, but I am digging my time with it. No regrets yet.

But did have issues today with fret buzz, so spent time searching for possible causes and some safe fixes. Raised the bridge a little and it eliminated most of it except for buzz on the first string. Gonna adjust it a little more tomorrow to see if I can eliminate it completely. If that doesn't do it then I'll be taking it to a tech

And can anyone recommend a good place to get guitar cables at a cheap price. Want to hook up an extension cable that has a right-angle M plug to a straight F plug . Figure its the best way to eliminate stress on the pack-in cable


how long is the pack in cable? I still haven't gotten my guitar yet.

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#86 crazedracerguy

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 11:37 PM

how long is the pack in cable? I still haven't gotten my guitar yet.



I think it's about 9 feet...

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#87 Confucius

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 11:45 PM

I think it's about 9 feet...


thats long enough i think. I was worried it was something ridiculous like 3 feet.

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#88 rbarba4

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:09 AM

how long is the pack in cable? I still haven't gotten my guitar yet.


Confoo, did you have the guitar shipped to store? I put in an order on the last day of the GC sale and it arrived at the store on Friday. Really surprised by the speed of shipping

Ubisoft says it is about 11 ft, but I'm finding it to be a bit short for where I would rather be standing while playing. If I only use the real-tone cable, then I'm standing about 4 ft from the tv, so I don't put any tension on the cable.

I haven't found the extension cable I wanted so I'm going with the alternative of using a USB extension cable and am waiting to receive a 1/4"right angle plug adapter

And as for Guitar Center, I want to relay some info I got from my local store. I was in there yesterday and speaking with the clerk how I just started in on Rocksmith. Let him know about Best Buy's deal and he told me that while they wouldn't match the deal exactly, they would put together a similar package deal.

So you may want to try going to GC before the BB sale expires and seeing what they can put together for you. Obviously YMMV on the total package. It probably depends on how much the store manager hates losing business to BB;)

EDIT: Hey Smiley thanks for the recommendation on the Dunlop strap. Damn that thing is tough. I had a simple ErnieBall strap I picked up a couple years ago to use on a GH controller. And while it was solid, it feels like a toy in comparison to the Dunlop

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#89 Yo Mama

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:44 AM

A question to anyone who bought the game. I have a teenager interested in learning to play guitar, is this game worth it?


This game is really good for making you practice, but I think it would be hard to pick up with zero guitar training. You probably want some lessons + rocksmith

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 02:03 AM

I shipped to my house but my guitar was backordered till 11/11. Don't have a shipping notice yet. They better not cancel.

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