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#61 dmaul1114

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:11 PM

Magic may file tampering charges against the Nets and Rockets.

Apparently they had meetings with Howard that are in violation of league rules.

http://espn.go.com/n...oward-tampering

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#62 dmaul1114

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:36 PM

Apparently Tracy McGrady will be signing a 1 year deal with the hawks for the veteran minimum.

http://blogs.ajc.com...-one-year-deal/

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#63 kill3r7

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 08:12 PM

His lack of rebounding and defensive tenacity may have been related to his case of mono before the season.


My best friend is a Nets fan so I've seen Lopez play both in person and on TV enough to come to the conclusion that is a very bad rebounder and an avg defender at best. I'll say this about him... he is a very efficient offensive player. In the right system Lopez can avg about 22ppg.

#64 tobiXidk

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 08:13 PM

Apparently Tracy McGrady will be signing a 1 year deal with the hawks for the veteran minimum.

http://blogs.ajc.com...-one-year-deal/


Trying to fill in the gap for Jamal Crawford?

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 08:29 PM

Hornets got the shaft on the trade nullification. It was a chance to get something out of an on-his-way-out Chris Paul. Now it's likely he'll walk at the end of the season and become a Laker anyway leaving the Hornets with neither an all-star player nor rebuilding draft picks.

Stern is really trying hard to keep the small market teams competitive, However, looking at the long-term implications of this decision, it really goes against the grain of that stance.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 08:40 PM

Hornets got the shaft on the trade nullification. It was a chance to get something out of an on-his-way-out Chris Paul. Now it's likely he'll walk at the end of the season and become a Laker anyway leaving the Hornets with neither an all-star player nor rebuilding draft picks.

Stern is really trying hard to keep the small market teams competitive, However, looking at the long-term implications of this decision, it really goes against the grain of that stance.


They'll get something for Paul. No way they let him walk. Heck he might still be dealt to LA once D12 is traded somewhere else.

#67 dmaul1114

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 12:36 AM

Magic waived Gilbert Arenas under the new amnesty program.

Suns waived Vince Carter--not amnesty, he accepted a $4 million buyout.

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#68 TooMuchCoolness

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 12:59 AM

Apparently Tracy McGrady will be signing a 1 year deal with the hawks for the veteran minimum.

http://blogs.ajc.com...-one-year-deal/


Holy shit, T-Mac is on my team (Hawks) in My Player mode. He is a point guard, though.

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#69 Gentlegamer

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 01:03 AM

Let's be honest. Donuts ended Shawn Kemp's career.

Shawn Kemp fact: if you were born after 1990, there is a 17% chance Shawn Kemp is your biological father.

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I want to thank Stern for not letting the Rockets make a stupid trade for Paula Gasol. Letting the Lakers trade garbage for an in-his-prime Gasol, cash him in for two championships, then flip him for an in-his-prime Chris Paul would have been bad enough, but my Rockets getting stuck with that flopping softie would have been too much to handle.

In other news, I no longer have faith in Daryl Morey to make smart moves for the Rockets if he thought the Gasol trade was a good move.
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Posted 10 December 2011 - 01:27 AM

Shawn Kemp fact: if you were born after 1990, there is a 17% chance Shawn Kemp is your biological father.

source:http://www.cracked.c...walking-behind/

I want to thank Stern for not letting the Rockets make a stupid trade for Paula Gasol. Letting the Lakers trade garbage for an in-his-prime Gasol, cash him in for two championships, then flip him for an in-his-prime Chris Paul would have been bad enough, but my Rockets getting stuck with that flopping softie would have been too much to handle.

In other news, I no longer have faith in Daryl Morey to make smart moves for the Rockets if he thought the Gasol trade was a good move.


Disagree. Pau Gaosl is still an All Star center. None of the guy Rockets traded are close to an all star.

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#71 Gentlegamer

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 01:33 AM

Disagree. Pau Gaosl is still an All Star center. None of the guy Rockets traded are close to an all star.

Gasol is a power forward, and is a big softie. I'd rather have Scola. He leaves it all on the court, every single night. All-Star status means nothing to me.
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#72 thamaster24

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 01:36 AM

Disagree. Pau Gaosl is still an All Star center. None of the guy Rockets traded are close to an all star.


It was very risky, Morey planned on getting Nene as well. Would've been the best scoring 4, 5 tandem in the league for sure if it had panned out, but that's really risky in gambling with Nene. He's held onto that cap room for much longer than most GMs would, maybe he's been planning this one a while?

IDK I'm in agreement that the deal wasn't as great as advertised for LA (3 players with bum knees, potentially career changing bum knees?), NO got the best of it (could flip those players as well), and Houston got the worst of it mainly because they only got back one player and gave up 2 guys who can easily avg 20 a game.

And in a not so surprising move, Rip Hamiliton was bought out by the Pistons: http://espn.go.com/n...ilton-part-ways
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#73 lordopus99

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 01:52 AM

Well, that sucks.

Baby is owed 3 mil 0 years left on contract.
Bass is owed 4 mil 2 years left on contract.

The trade makes a little sense given the mood of today with Arenas being cut and Howard wanting out. It should give us some options moneywise, which we haven't had for years.

Baby is a good flopper defender so I don't think there will be too much drop off. Now, let's see if Van Gundy allows him to still bang down low vs trying to convert him to a 3pt shooter.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 01:55 AM

Disagree. Pau Gaosl is still an All Star center. None of the guy Rockets traded are close to an all star.


Gasol is good, but not good enough to lose Scola, Martin, Dragic, and a first round pick. I was thinking maybe they had something else in mind, like making a play for Howard.
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Posted 10 December 2011 - 06:45 AM

Baby is owed 3 mil 0 years left on contract.
Bass is owed 4 mil 2 years left on contract.

The trade makes a little sense given the mood of today with Arenas being cut and Howard wanting out. It should give us some options moneywise, which we haven't had for years.

Baby is a good flopper defender so I don't think there will be too much drop off. Now, let's see if Van Gundy allows him to still bang down low vs trying to convert him to a 3pt shooter.


Davis S&T'ed, so he has a new contract. 4 years, $26 mil, so...

Baby is owed 26 mil, 4 years left on contract.
Bass is owed 4 mil, 2 years left on contract.

#76 dmaul1114

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 06:56 AM

Gasol is good, but not good enough to lose Scola, Martin, Dragic, and a first round pick. I was thinking maybe they had something else in mind, like making a play for Howard.


That may have been it, given the Rockets are one of the teams the Magic are rumored to be considering filing tampering charges against.

Though I did just see that the Magic denied considering tampering charges.

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#77 CaseyRyback

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 03:23 PM

Looks like Vince Carter is coming to Dallas. Sucks that Dallas couldn't bring in Grant Hill instead or along with Carter. They would have fit with their goal of keeping cap room clear and having a solid team for this year.

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#78 dmaul1114

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 04:46 PM

Magic may file tampering charges against the Nets and Rockets.

Apparently they had meetings with Howard that are in violation of league rules.

http://espn.go.com/n...oward-tampering


Apparently that was a bogus report--par for the course with ESPN.

Orlando's GM confirmed he gave permission to Howard's agent to talk to other teams, including the Nets and Lakers.

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#79 soulvengeance

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 08:03 PM

Apparently that was a bogus report--par for the course with ESPN.

Orlando's GM confirmed he gave permission to Howard's agent to talk to other teams, including the Nets and Lakers.


I thought that sounded a little fishy when it was first reported.
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Posted 10 December 2011 - 08:08 PM

ESPN has become a network built on gossip over the past few years. Fox and Yahoo have been running circles around them for a while when it comes to hard hitting news. Anytime it actually looks like they did any work they are just reconfirming shit that someone already confirmed (like what happened with Albert Pujols).

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#81 soulvengeance

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 08:13 PM

Looks like Vince Carter is coming to Dallas. Sucks that Dallas couldn't bring in Grant Hill instead or along with Carter. They would have fit with their goal of keeping cap room clear and having a solid team for this year.


Glad you guys got him, I thought he was really coming to Chicago.:) Dodged that bullet!
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#82 dmaul1114

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 09:07 PM

I thought that sounded a little fishy when it was first reported.


Seems now like it was only partly bogus. The Magic only gave permission for Howard's agent to meet with other teams, not Howard himself. Though I don't see what the difference is personally in terms of tampering or not.

Glad you guys got him, I thought he was really coming to Chicago.:) Dodged that bullet!


Looks like you guys are going to sign Richard Hamilton.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 11:30 PM

[quote name='dmaul1114']Seems now like it was only partly bogus. The Magic only gave permission for Howard's agent to meet with other teams, not Howard himself. Though I don't see what the difference is personally in terms of tampering or not.

[quote name='docvinh']Glad you guys got him, I thought he was really coming to Chicago.:) Dodged that bullet![/QUOTE

Looks like you guys are going to sign Richard Hamilton.[/QUOTE]

I'll take Rip any day over Vince.:) Sad to see how far he has fallen from his heyday.
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#84 ph33r m3

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 12:05 AM

Now D12 and his agent are granted permission to seek a trade to NJ or LA.....

This league is just going down hill day by day.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 12:07 AM

Now D12 and his agent are granted permission to seek a trade to NJ or LA.....

This league is just going down hill day by day.


Saw Dallas was in there too. Who would they trade for Howard?
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 12:22 AM

Saw Dallas was in there too. Who would they trade for Howard?


Cuban has some belief he can make a run for D12 via trade (Beaubois?) or try his hand in free agency.

Cuban forgot he wasn't in New York or in LA.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 12:44 AM

LOL @ dumb ass Cuban even thinking he had a shot at D12, like Dwight really wanted to come anyway compared to his other options. I can see the endorsements coming which would be in the form of doing some shitty commercials for local shitty chiropractors that air at 3am in the morning :lol:.

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Looks like Billups wants to go to a Contender and i dont blame him one bit for not wanting to be picked up by a garbage team.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 01:09 AM

Cuban has some belief he can make a run for D12 via trade (Beaubois?) or try his hand in free agency.

Cuban forgot he wasn't in New York or in LA.


Don't discount Dallas because it isn't NJ or LA. Both of those franchises have enough question marks to make it less of a slam dunk than it should be. The Mavs have an owner committed to winning, a smart front office, and a great coach. They have the longest current sell out streak in the NBA and Dallas isn't some small town. Jerry West doesn't run the Lakers anymore and the last two titles they won he gets credit for (he gave them Gasol and brought in Shaq and Kobe). Billy King has yet to do anything that would make me think he can craft a contender. Mike Brown and Avery Johnson have yet to show they can perform in pressure situations. Even though they got jobbed in 06, Avery is still partly to blame for that and has to own the 07 debacle. Similarly, Mike Brown has to own what happened with LeBron running Cleveland into the ground.

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#89 dmaul1114

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 02:01 AM

it's more just that the Mavs are an older team and don't have much to offer in exchange for Howard. So it would have to be a multi-team trade.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 06:08 AM

Mavs get Odom and Vince Carter. Vince Carter alone is reason enough they wont repeat good shit Cuban