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#1531 io

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:02 AM

OK, so right out of the box mine doesn't connect to the wireless signal that every other device in my house uses (including a couple of 3DS's)... OK, so I always had problems with the Wii in the same spot so I thought maybe the signal was just bad there. But my network was showing 2 out of 3 bars so I didn't think so.

I just found this info on the web:

Ok so far heres what works, entering in everything manually.



1. Go into connection types, Hit "Manual Configuration"


2. Input your SSID


3. Input the correct security type, this is key.


4. Put your password in properly


5. For ip address "Do not auto obtain".


6. open up cmd in your computer, type in ipconfig


7. Now input that ip address but add 10 to the last number so "192.168.0.1" will be entered as "192.168.0.11"


8. Enter the rest of your info inside such as subnet mask and default gateway exactly as you see it in your ipconfig.


9. Now hit next, hit configure now for your DNS. When asked about DNS hit "Dont auto obtain".


10. For the first server put in 8.8.8.8


11. For the second server put in 8.8.4.4


12. Hit Next, when asked about a proxy hit no proxy


13. Leave mtu as the default


14. it should work, if not check the ip and that it is the internet ip + 10. Good luck


and so far it is working - it is downloading the update now at least. But what has always sucked about Nintendo is the error messages. The stupid error says it "couldn't find the wireless network" (or something to that effect). Well, yeah, it actually could, but something else was wrong. Then in the detailed info it says to check the security setting. What I don't understand is can't they diagnose a little more precisely what the problem is? I mean, if the security setting is wrong or the network is out of range it would be nice to know if that is the actual problem instead of this half-assed handwaving error message that gives you all sorts of confilcting info. It was neither of those in my case since the instructions above (posted by a random user on the Nintendo support forum - not by Nintendo themselves of course) worked.

I'm not looking forward to the Wii system transfer since that means having both touchy systems up and running and on wireless at the same time.

Edit: Fucking A! I spoke too soon. Just went back out to check on the progress and "An error has occured". Yeah, that's really helpful. Now it is back wanting me to reconfigure my network settings again #-o.

Now after "checking for update" for like a minute I get error 105-4011. The update never starts downloading. Really useful Nintendo.

Edited by io, 19 November 2012 - 03:16 AM.


#1532 just joe

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:13 AM

My family and I are having a blast with the system so far, we haven't even opened any games except Nintendo Land as everyone is having so much fun with it. My wife who has almost no interest in video games actually played some Nintendo Land with us and she loved it, so for a family I think the system is great.

I did notices that my Gamepad has a rattle under the buttons. Is there a problem with mine or do you all hear a little rattle there too when the Gamepad is shaken? Any feedback would be great.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:23 AM

My family and I are having a blast with the system so far, we haven't even opened any games except Nintendo Land as everyone is having so much fun with it. My wife who has almost no interest in video games actually played some Nintendo Land with us and she loved it, so for a family I think the system is great.

I did notices that my Gamepad has a rattle under the buttons. Is there a problem with mine or do you all hear a little rattle there too when the Gamepad is shaken? Any feedback would be great.


Heard the rattle too. Not sure what it is but everything seems to work. Family likes it too. It would be hard for a family not to like this out of box so perhaps it ain't saying much. But plenty of fun on day one. The Gamepad makes it feel like a futuristic system.

#1534 KingBroly

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:35 AM

The rattle is coming from the face buttons on the right-hand side. when you shake the gamepad. I have the same issue.

+ Enjoying Nintendo Land quite a bit
+ Mario is Mario
+ The Wii U upscales Wii games. It's not much, but still noticeable and good
+ The TV Remote feature is fantastic.

- Updates galore. Sheesh.
- Miiverse seems to have growing pains
- They really need to optimize/speed up this OS.

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#1535 io

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:35 AM

Wow, it gets even better... I moved the system into my office so it can sit right next to the router. When I fired it back up and went into "Settings" it froze and I had to pull the plug. When I turned it back on the pad couldn't communicate with the system.

Finally got it back and now trying to do the update again - this time 5 feet from the router. OK, now it is actually showing a progress bar. I'm not confident at all that it will actually finish though.

Edit: and now "Unable to Connect to the Server" after the progress bad had made some movement.

What an utter piece of crap.

Edited by io, 19 November 2012 - 03:46 AM.


#1536 KevinMassacre

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:38 AM

does anyone know where the rayman legends demo is? cant find it in the eshop anywhere? it is supposed to be available
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#1537 nickerous

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:07 AM

The amount of updates is very disappointing. Everything requires one it seems.

#1538 Lyth

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:27 AM

OK, so right out of the box mine doesn't connect to the wireless signal that every other device in my house uses (including a couple of 3DS's)... OK, so I always had problems with the Wii in the same spot so I thought maybe the signal was just bad there. But my network was showing 2 out of 3 bars so I didn't think so.

I just found this info on the web:



and so far it is working - it is downloading the update now at least. But what has always sucked about Nintendo is the error messages. The stupid error says it "couldn't find the wireless network" (or something to that effect). Well, yeah, it actually could, but something else was wrong. Then in the detailed info it says to check the security setting. What I don't understand is can't they diagnose a little more precisely what the problem is? I mean, if the security setting is wrong or the network is out of range it would be nice to know if that is the actual problem instead of this half-assed handwaving error message that gives you all sorts of confilcting info. It was neither of those in my case since the instructions above (posted by a random user on the Nintendo support forum - not by Nintendo themselves of course) worked.

I'm not looking forward to the Wii system transfer since that means having both touchy systems up and running and on wireless at the same time.

Edit: Fucking A! I spoke too soon. Just went back out to check on the progress and "An error has occured". Yeah, that's really helpful. Now it is back wanting me to reconfigure my network settings again #-o.

Now after "checking for update" for like a minute I get error 105-4011. The update never starts downloading. Really useful Nintendo.


I don't think the issue is Nintendo's fault.

You can set any IP address within the range of your subnet. It doesn't have to be the IP your computer has + 10. Depending on your setup, that IP could be out of the subnet range. So, try +2. Make sure the subnet mask remains the same.

For DNS, try auto obtaining. You can't just enter any number you want, or "8.8.8.8". If your ISP has a different DNS server than the one listed, then it's address wont be 8.8.8.8. (Think of it this way, when you mail a package, you put the recipients address. Not some random address found online.)

The 8.8.8.8 DNS belongs to Google. This could lead to problems if too many Wii U's (or other connections) are requesting Domain Name lookups from the server, AKA too many requests which could cause a timeout. (DNS = Domain Name Server. It turns "www.whatever.org" to the appopriate IP address. Without DNS, you'd have to enter a website's IP address to access it).

If you're still having issues, type cmd into start, then type "ipconfig /all". Scroll up to your ethernet or wireless adapter, and note down it's DNS. Try using this on the Wii U. (Will appear under "DNS Servers").

Just remember that all relatively new consoles have had issues on launch day. You're bound to encounter problems with the network as there's so many people using the Wii U, and they're all trying to connect and have fun. Just give it some time if the above steps and info didn't solve your problem(s).

To put it easily; It's the first day of summer. You're driving your car (information/packets) to the beach (server). But you get stuck in a traffic jam due to everyone wanting to visit the beach (too many requests from the server, so the server drops packets and/or denies information).



Does anyone know if the Wii U has a VPN setting in it's Network options? Would be nice to use it through my VPN.

Edited by Lyth, 19 November 2012 - 04:53 AM.


#1539 Strell

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:35 AM

I think Lyth has a point with everyone using Google's public DNS. I've never had much luck with them over the years in various applications.

Sorry everyone is having trouble. I'm having Vietnam flashbacks to Brawl, which is immortalized in my sig.


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#1540 Lyth

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:43 AM

I think Lyth has a point with everyone using Google's public DNS. I've never had much luck with them over the years in various applications.

Sorry everyone is having trouble. I'm having Vietnam flashbacks to Brawl, which is immortalized in my sig.


Appreciated :). I've worked in IT, networking and such for a few years. Became certified, so I'm used to dealing with issues such as these :).

And I remember all the trouble with Brawl as well. Had it launch day, had to diagnose and fix a lot of issues for people online. Heh.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:35 AM

If you're looking for a solid DNS server, use 4.2.2.1 or 4.2.2.2

Those are DNS servers that have been around forever. They are run by Level 3 communications now and have always been rock solid for me. (Been in IT since 1994.)

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:46 AM

Alright, anyone else's WaraWara Plaza have like... nothing in it? I mean, aside from the normal built-in applications and pre-loaded Miis and messages? Like, I don't see any games floating, with people chatting about it.

Is there some option I've missed? I think I've set up Miiverse properly, and I'm definitely connected to the net, and I have some friends in the friend list...
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#1543 Halo05

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:53 AM

Well I got mine up and running with my old Wii stuff and it seems to be free of freezes for the moment. Still, I've never experienced a console so prone to locking up and getting error messages. I'm chalking it up to growing pains and millions of people trying to get online at the same time. Still, not as smooth as I was hoping.

NSMBU is good but I don't like the waggle and it feels a bit floaty compared to something like SMB3. Nothing surprising though because I had pretty much the same issue with NSMB on DS.

I'll play more Nintendoland tomorrow at some point but it's adorable. I mentioned it somewhere but I'm not a huge fan of aiming by pointing the gamepad all over the place. Oh, and I wish I could invert the right stick for the Metroid game, I can't press up and expect an aircraft to go up, too many years of flight sims.

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#1544 io

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:57 AM

Well, the biggest problem for me is the lack of Ethernet jack. If I could connect it that way I'm sure all the problems would go away.

I have had to restart the update 5 times now and counting. AT LEAST, unlike with the Wii, it seems to have the previous progress saved (since the bar starts off where it was before). So I'm getting through it, but very, very slowly. I keep going to do other things (just watched the second half of Fellowship of the Ring Extended version with my kids) and came back down once again to see the error. So all told it is taking me 4+ hours and counting to do the initial update.

Would these DNS issues really be a problem for a continuing download of the update. It's not like I can't connect (once I did all the manual setup - again, not something required by any other device I have) - it just won't stay connected.

Lyth:
But, yeah, the fact that every other device (including my 3DS) connects just fine with default setting from my router indicates that this is indeed Nintendo's fault.
And the connection worked fine once I did the manual IP setting. I didn't do +10, I actually did +20 (since I have so many other devices). It connected ASAP once I did that. But why did I have to do that at all? Every other wireless device in my house auto connects and gets assigned an IP. The problem now is staying connected. Now about half way through the update download. But from what I'm reading I'll have to do other updates as well? That does not bode well. I also am afraid to do the Wii transfer thing since that depends on a connection. I could see that failing and losing my data in some way.

#1545 Lyth

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:09 AM

io: Gotcha. I believe it's a problem with too many people trying to access the servers at once. Tons of games, consoles, apps, etc have had issues like this when they first launched. I'd *try* and wait until the initial craze is over, and then try. The Wii U could have an issue with trying to keep a steady connection to your router for multiple reasons - but not limited to: Firewall (possible, but doubtful), too many connections on the Server (most likely), or an incompatibility with your router (doubtful). I know you're excited use the Wii U and try out all of it's exciting features, but so is everyone else, which is most likely causing this issue. Just take a break. Maybe try tomorrow or later on tonight. I don't even have a console, I'm getting my *fix* by watching videos online. I'd buy it, I have the money. It's just, they're not sold in China. D:

EDIT: I saw you mentioned the lack of an ethernet port. Do you have the Wii Ethernet adapter (USB)? It will work in the Wii U. If not, go buy it. :) Should be about $5 or $10.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:24 AM

Yeah... The Wii U really should have had an Ethernet port. I don't really get why Nintendo decided to do Wifi only with the Wii and Wii U. I've been thinking about getting a Ethernet adapter, but I'm going to wait for more online multiplayer games first.

I've been playing the heck out of Nintendo Land since it's my only game. I'm still waiting on New Super Mario Bros U and Assassin's Creed III from Newegg. I really like the Donkey Kong game and the ninja game. :)
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:25 AM

Oh for Fuck's sake....... really wish I had known that your NNID is tied to the system it is created on before making it. Nintendo could have said something to the effect during the process! Now the name I wanted is stuck on my friend's system?!?! Uuuuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhh. Why can't NNID just function like any normal XBL/PSN account and let me login on any system???
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#1548 Lyth

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:43 AM

Oh for Fuck's sake....... really wish I had known that your NNID is tied to the system it is created on before making it. Nintendo could have said something to the effect during the process! Now the name I wanted is stuck on my friend's system?!?! Uuuuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhh. Why can't NNID just function like any normal XBL/PSN account and let me login on any system???


You could always try calling them, although the lines are probably busy. I think they'll release another update (lol) that has the ability to transfer accounts and such. It'd make sense to do so.

#1549 io

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:59 AM

Well, I'm on and have a Nintendo ID finally. Same as my XBox and PS3 ones if anyone is interested. Now I'm going to delve into the Wii system transfer, though I can't figure out where it is that I do that. The instructions have this strange text: "To begin, go to the Wii U menu, select To Wii Menu and select Transfer from Wii.".

I don't see a "To Wii Menu" anywhere...

I mean there's the Wii menu, but it wants to sync remotes and crap when I select that. What am I missing? :lol:

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:01 AM

I LOVE this console! I've been playing Mario and Nintendoland all night. It's definitely next gen. Not current. It feels soooo fresh and new. Really feels like it advanced.

Mine didn't want to hook up to my wifi either today, so I bypassed it because I wanted to play the games. I'll try and understand the complicated process to make it hook up tomorrow....but I may be here asking for help, lol.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:03 AM

Well, I'm on and have a Nintendo ID finally. Same as my XBox and PS3 ones if anyone is interested. Now I'm going to delve into the Wii system transfer, though I can't figure out where it is that I do that. The instructions have this strange text: "To begin, go to the Wii U menu, select To Wii Menu and select Transfer from Wii.".

I don't see a "To Wii Menu" anywhere...

I mean there's the Wii menu, but it wants to sync remotes and crap when I select that. What am I missing? :lol:


That's where you go. Go into the Wii Menu, your system turns into a Wii, which means you need to sync up a Wii remote. Once you are in, there is a Transfer app that walks you through the whole process.
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#1552 io

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:03 AM

^ D'oh, OK, thanks. Well, since I had to rip the system down out of the living room I don't have the bar set up or a remote in here. I guess I'll hook that shit up.

EDIT: I saw you mentioned the lack of an ethernet port. Do you have the Wii Ethernet adapter (USB)? It will work in the Wii U. If not, go buy it. :) Should be about $5 or $10.


And yeah, I'm going to have to get one of these before I more the Wii U back out into the living room. I can't keep it in my office for very long (as no one else but me can use it in there).

I have a switch out there with my PS3 and 360 already hooked up, so I just need that adapter. I saw 3rd party ones at Best Buy for $20 but I'll look around for the $50-$10 ones you mention.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:26 AM

Here's a question, and i'll post this in the preorder thread too. I went ahead and bypassed connecting to the internet because I didn't want to try to understand the complicated process. I wanted to get right to playing. I'll be hooking it up tomorrow and updating. But, I heard NSMBU forces another system update? Well, I already started playing that game, and have saved data.

Does anyone know if the console recognizes Mario needs a system update, will this cause my save data to be corrupted or erased? Thanks for any help.
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#1555 Lyth

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:43 AM

How's the browser compare to the ones on tablets? No pinch to zoom, because of the no multi-touch capabilities, right?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:11 AM

Here's a question, and i'll post this in the preorder thread too. I went ahead and bypassed connecting to the internet because I didn't want to try to understand the complicated process. I wanted to get right to playing. I'll be hooking it up tomorrow and updating. But, I heard NSMBU forces another system update? Well, I already started playing that game, and have saved data.

Does anyone know if the console recognizes Mario needs a system update, will this cause my save data to be corrupted or erased? Thanks for any help.


Some games have their own individual game patches that aren't system updates. It's separate from the big, long one that'll take forever.
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#1557 io

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:16 AM

Here's a question, and i'll post this in the preorder thread too. I went ahead and bypassed connecting to the internet because I didn't want to try to understand the complicated process. I wanted to get right to playing. I'll be hooking it up tomorrow and updating. But, I heard NSMBU forces another system update? Well, I already started playing that game, and have saved data.

Does anyone know if the console recognizes Mario needs a system update, will this cause my save data to be corrupted or erased? Thanks for any help.


I don't know for sure (I made sure I updated that and NintendoLand once I got the Internet working on it) but I would think it would be like any 360 or PS3 update/patch and would not effect your save data.

I tried to do my Wii transfer and no dice. I was able to get the Wii Transfer channel from the Wii Shop on my Wii U (had no idea that was what it entailed - would have been nice for some site to mention that!). But I cannot get my old Wii to connect to the Internet for the life of me. I'm not sure how long it has been - I might have not done it since I got my new router 2 years ago.

I got it to connect long enough to say it needed a system update (of course). But it wouldn't even budge the progress bar on the system update before it errored out. Then every test after that failed. I tried the same thing as with the Wii U (manual IP address and DNS). That got it to work for that one time but then no more.

I guess I'm going to have to go to Fred Meyer and pay full price for a network adapter for the Wii and use it first on the old system, then use it on the new one. So the wireless is completely useless - nice going, Nintendo. I realize that some of that might be incompatibility with my particular router. But as I said earlier, I've had no problems with that router with any number of other devices (iMac, PC Netbook, Vizio Internet TV, 3 iPhones, an iPod, a DSi and 2 3DS's). Yet the Wii U and Wii are having fits over it. It definitely seems worse for the old Wiis though. At least I got the Wii U working consistently, though I did have to do the manual setup and park it practically right next to the router to do so. All the other devices work with default settings from 2-3 rooms away no problem.

Edited by io, 19 November 2012 - 12:15 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:04 PM

I worked all day yesterday(and I work in a grocery store and it's was the Sunday before Thanksgiving so of course it was insane all day), so only got a couple of levels in on Mario Bros before I collapsed, but it was surprising how fresh that felt. The level design right from the get go is far superior to NSMB 2: The search for more money. I have today off, but I'll be pretty busy cleaning up for Thursday so don't know how much I'll get in overall.

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#1559 Lyth

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:38 PM

io: Why not try waiting a few days so that the initial rush is over? Or call and talk to Nintendo first? Might save you some cash.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:00 PM

I worked all day yesterday(and I work in a grocery store and it's was the Sunday before Thanksgiving so of course it was insane all day), so only got a couple of levels in on Mario Bros before I collapsed, but it was surprising how fresh that felt. The level design right from the get go is far superior to NSMB 2: The search for more money. I have today off, but I'll be pretty busy cleaning up for Thursday so don't know how much I'll get in overall.

That's great to hear with NSMB U. I gave up and sold NSMB 2 after like 3-4 worlds, so meh.
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