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#1801 vcplant

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:55 AM

Nintendo is focused on staying profitable. The people who are in the market for a $100 console are not in the market for a $300 console regardless of backwards compatibility. Nintendo is following SONY's lead and marketing to the budget conscious consumer as well as folks in developing nations.


That worked out well for Sega when the Saturn came out. I was in the company meeting when they displayed their business model as similar to GMC with the Saturn being the Cadillac, the 3DX being the Buick, and the Genesis as the Chevy. I'm not kidding. You need to be all in when you launch a new console. Sure, do a year or two of games for you previous system at bare minimum development costs because of the huge base (and ease of spitting out sequels). But it you devote any major resources to your old gen, you're going to get killed. It pissed off the developers (one studio rarely can produce quality games on multiple generations of consoles) and confuses the consumer base.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:12 AM

I don't know why people want to buy a Wii U when it will be worthless once the xbox 720 or the PS4 comes out.


Games can only get so pretty. Frame rates so high. The way we play is what needs to change. Even MS and Sony realize this. Kudos to Nintendo for being the curve. If not being ahead of it.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:17 AM

I am wondering if we will ever see 3rd party game pads. Doubtful I know but it has to be done even if it is USB only MadCatz or PDP will find a way.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:31 AM

That worked out well for Sega when the Saturn came out. I was in the company meeting when they displayed their business model as similar to GMC with the Saturn being the Cadillac, the 3DX being the Buick, and the Genesis as the Chevy. I'm not kidding. You need to be all in when you launch a new console. Sure, do a year or two of games for you previous system at bare minimum development costs because of the huge base (and ease of spitting out sequels). But it you devote any major resources to your old gen, you're going to get killed. It pissed off the developers (one studio rarely can produce quality games on multiple generations of consoles) and confuses the consumer base.


Nintendo has already publicly announced they will no longer produce Wii software. If the rumor pans out, then Nintendo will only be producing the machine and continuing to press new copies of old games.

This is effectively just an extra revenue stream.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:27 AM

I used a hori screen protector for the game pad and it went on so easily with no air bubbles!!! It was split into 4 sections on taking the plastic off so it can adhere to the screen.

Also thanks for the advice on Nintendoland haven't tried it yet but when I get a chance I will!

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:25 AM

Well my Wii U died on me tonight. Blinking red light and won't power on :-(


My wii u just fucking died too, same shit blinking fucking red light

#1807 Blaster man

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:30 PM

The initial batch may have sold out and replacement arrived during the week (this happened with the Wii launch), so NOA may be factually correct. Still, it looks like sales are lower compared to the Wii launch (400K vs 600K).

What is different this time is that the Wii still sold 300K during Thanksgiving week. I dont think the Gamecube was moving many units during the Wii launch timeframe.

All in all 1.2 million consoles isnt bad by any stretch, but it is a little weird that so many of those were Wii and DS sales.

http://news.cnet.com...-devices-total/


I realize this is anecdotal and everyone seems to hate when people say this stuff but I will say it anyway. I bought a Wii 5 months after launch and it was still impossible to find in stores. I had to buy an online bundle to get it. I can walk into a store and get a Wii U a week after launch.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:14 PM

Just got my wii u! Doing the update now.

#1809 polyh3dron

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:31 PM

Finally my Newegg bundle with 3 day shipping has arrived. They sure took their sweet time, it should have arrived Friday.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:00 PM

hmm anyone else have a problem with the remote not syncing even after you enter the 4 symbol code properly?

#1811 Habbler

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:13 PM

I wish the gamepad would sync with my projector, but all the codes in it appear to be for TVs and monitors from what I can see. At least TVii can talk to the Comcast box.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:14 PM

Frisco, Tx Target as of 3:30 today had 3 basics on the shelf and 2 delux in back of electronics dept. If you want one now and live in DFW area I would check it out. 121 & preston
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:16 PM

i just got a wii u delux at local target they had around 8 delux and 10 basic on shelf and just did a search on target.com and 8 targets within 30 miles as them in stock. they must have just got a decent shipments. i have yet seen every store in my area not have at least 1 delux. since release

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:20 PM

i just got a wii u delux at local target they had around 8 delux and 10 basic on shelf and just did a search on target.com and 8 targets within 30 miles as them in stock. they must have just got a decent shipments. i have yet seen every store in my area not have at least 1 delux. since release


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:23 PM

What area are you in?


north part of wisconsin close to GB

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#1817 TimboSliceGB

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:28 PM

on local news they talked about wii u and says that nintedo is saying wii U is sold out in every store at this point(when it's not). Sounds like nintendo is being their typical self trying to get hype for the system that really has not been there before and past launch so they are saying it's sold out .

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:23 AM

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 02:29 AM

on local news they talked about wii u and says that nintedo is saying wii U is sold out in every store at this point(when it's not). Sounds like nintendo is being their typical self trying to get hype for the system that really has not been there before and past launch so they are saying it's sold out .


It might just be a parsing of words - I think the initial shipments sold out everywhere, but the subsequent restocks are sitting around in many places.

I realize this is anecdotal and everyone seems to hate when people say this stuff but I will say it anyway. I bought a Wii 5 months after launch and it was still impossible to find in stores. I had to buy an online bundle to get it. I can walk into a store and get a Wii U a week after launch.


I can corroborate your experience. I'd take it further, though, and say the Wii was not readily available for about 15 months after launch. On the other hand, my local Fred Meyer has had both versions of the Wii U sitting in their case since last Tues/Weds (after selling their initial shipment in the first 2 days). And I saw the white ones at Target Sunday evening after presumably a ton of shoppers had a chance to buy them.

I think it is a combination of several factors:

1) They do have more Wii U's available than they did Wii's.
2) As others have said, the GC was over and done with and did not cannibalize sales like the Wii is currently doing to the Wii U.
3) It simpy isn't the hot new thing that the Wii was in Nov/Dec 2005.

None of that means it is or will be a failure, it is just a different set of circumstances. It seems to be selling just fine numbers-wise which really seems to support the assertion that they have made many more of these available than they did with the original Wii.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 04:33 AM

HI all, does anyone know anything about this controller? All I want to know is the controller works or not, I know 3rd party accessories can be a pain...

http://www.amazon.co...0/dp/B009O3WU2A


I'll pick this up depending on the reviews. I'd like to pick up a pro controller and this one has a sweet style.

#1821 Lyth

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:52 AM

I'll pick this up depending on the reviews. I'd like to pick up a pro controller and this one has a sweet style.



GoNintendo says this:

Either that, or they have speaker-like decorations on them. As reader Kolma says, please remember that these are a combination Wiimote/Classic Controller. These aren't going to take the place of Wii U Pro controllers.


It's not a Pro Controller apparently. It's hardware is a combination of the Wiimote and classic controller. What a let down. If the game doesn't support classic controller, then it may not support this.
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#1822 Blaster man

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:53 PM

It might just be a parsing of words - I think the initial shipments sold out everywhere, but the subsequent restocks are sitting around in many places.



I can corroborate your experience. I'd take it further, though, and say the Wii was not readily available for about 15 months after launch. On the other hand, my local Fred Meyer has had both versions of the Wii U sitting in their case since last Tues/Weds (after selling their initial shipment in the first 2 days). And I saw the white ones at Target Sunday evening after presumably a ton of shoppers had a chance to buy them.

I think it is a combination of several factors:

1) They do have more Wii U's available than they did Wii's.
2) As others have said, the GC was over and done with and did not cannibalize sales like the Wii is currently doing to the Wii U.
3) It simpy isn't the hot new thing that the Wii was in Nov/Dec 2005.

None of that means it is or will be a failure, it is just a different set of circumstances. It seems to be selling just fine numbers-wise which really seems to support the assertion that they have made many more of these available than they did with the original Wii.


I think they have more in stock but I know they don't have as much in stock as the first 14 months of the Wii and it was sold out that entire time. I agree with you on that length of time by the way. I was simply saying I had to buy some stupid $400+ bundle to get a Wii months after launch.

I think the biggest reason it's doing poorly (and this seems obvious) is because of low demand. People simply don't want it. Again, more anecdotal evidence BUT, I showed my wife some videos of the Wii U in action and she told me, "The tablet makes me not want it". I still plan on buying it when it's come down in price AND has games for it since it's backwards compatible with the Wii.

My wife wanted the original Wii to play and we got Wii Fit when that came out. She has no interest in the Wii U. Even *I* as a "hardcore gamer" have no interest in buying it right now. That's pretty telling, wouldn't you say?

#1823 Drclaw411

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:01 PM

okay, seriously...the console it released. it's time a mod makes a subforum, ffs.
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:02 PM

GoNintendo says this:



It's not a Pro Controller apparently. It's hardware is a combination of the Wiimote and classic controller. What a let down. If the game doesn't support classic controller, then it may not support this.


I'll consider this just a virtual console controller and be plenty happy with that. I hate tethering my classic controller to a wiimote.
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:03 PM

My wife wanted the original Wii to play and we got Wii Fit when that came out. She has no interest in the Wii U. Even *I* as a "hardcore gamer" have no interest in buying it right now. That's pretty telling, wouldn't you say?


Gee funny my wife was very excited about it, she plays it as much as I do and we are both fairly core gamers. We also own a 360 and PS3. I'd say that's at least equally telling.

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#1826 ZForce915

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:05 PM

I think the biggest reason it's doing poorly (and this seems obvious) is because of low demand. People simply don't want it.


I think a fair amount of people don't know it exists. I think that hurts even more.
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#1827 Drclaw411

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:09 PM

I'm still not buying into the mantra that "not sold out til march" = "doing poorly". Nintendo is replenishing stock. That isn't a bad thing. I'm sure some people enjoy early console launches because they like to have the console nobody can find and call it no big deal. But I really doubt any Nintendo console that isn't the virtual boy is going to sell poorly.

That being said, a small part of me hopes it does. Then perhaps, out of desperation, Nintendo will release a Pokemon main series Wii U game.
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#1828 Blaster man

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:28 PM

I'm still not buying into the mantra that "not sold out til march" = "doing poorly". Nintendo is replenishing stock. That isn't a bad thing. I'm sure some people enjoy early console launches because they like to have the console nobody can find and call it no big deal. But I really doubt any Nintendo console that isn't the virtual boy is going to sell poorly.

That being said, a small part of me hopes it does. Then perhaps, out of desperation, Nintendo will release a Pokemon main series Wii U game.


I think it's an issue of not being sold out a few days after launch. The 360 sold what, 10 or 20 million its first year before it was widely available. If this were the 360 launch the stores would have bare shelves no matter how well it's being restocked.

Gee funny my wife was very excited about it, she plays it as much as I do and we are both fairly core gamers. We also own a 360 and PS3. I'd say that's at least equally telling.


Eh, my wife isn't a core gamer only I am. If say she's more representative of the population. I sense hostility and defensiveness in your post for some reason. Is it really upsetting to you if the Wii U is flopping and has a march price drop like the 3ds did?

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 02:11 PM

I find it pointless to speculate on how successful Wii U will be this early. Europe and Japan haven't gotten theirs yet, for crying out loud. It's like baseball...things just happen in unpredictable fashion as there are always too many variables/factors you can't fit in your calculations neatly and call it a day. Especially not this early.

I'm very happy with mine...that's good enough for now personally. I'll root for it to last a long time and look forward to what games we may get next.

In other words, try not to overthink or overanalyze this soon and just wait and see what will happen in the next few months. Just a suggestion...dismiss it if you want to.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 03:09 PM

I think sales are doing fine. I never expected the Wii U to do business like the Wii because the market is very different than when the Wii was released. Fact is, many people have consoles which are "good enough", with plenty of games to keep them busy. I also don't think there is a killer app for the Wii U yet. It is a solid launch lineup, but nothing there which is a must-have for a broad crosssection of the market.

I played it, and I do want it at some point, but given my backlog everywhere, I'm in no hurry.
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