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#2011 foltzie

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:09 PM

Nintendo isn't an OS company and is still - unfortunately - learning the ropes on that. The most recent update addressed some of the sluggishness, but I imagine it will be an issue that will take a few months to iron out to a more acceptable state.


Seconded, with one note, the 3DS boots rather quickly and loads up apps on the SD card without any noticable delay, I dont understand why the Wii U load isnt just a fast.

Some apps take far too long to boot, this however, isnt too disimilar to the 3DS where things like Swap Note take FAR too long to load.

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#2012 lilboo

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:22 PM

So we've had it since Friday. Mommy-in-law sent us an early christmas gift -- the black edition + Zombie U.

We both agreed that we didn't really WANT it.. at least yet..because of being fairly disappointed with the Wii over 5 years. However, as a gift, we decided "Why not?". If we hated it, we couldn't really complain about wasting money.

I am slightly impressed, but I feel cheated. I feel that THIS is how the Wii should have been. I know, I know.. the Wii would not have sold the way it sold if it was more expensive. I get that. Really! But it just seems like such a slap in the face.

I'm still a little confused as to why the "eShop" isn't the same as the Shop Channel on the Wii. So basically I have to go to the Wii menu, to play virtual console games? It seems just silly. The load screens -- NOT IN THE GAME!! -- are just really long. Going from the system settings back to the main menu was really like 15 seconds. Woah. This seems to be the norm for everything going back to the main menu. Perhaps in time this can be fixed with an update. That'd be pretty fantastic.

Nintendo Land, Zombie U, and we bought NSMBU (purchased Sunday) are fun and "as expected". Mario is Mario.. it's fun, it's very pretty looking... but it's nothing "omggg!!<3". I only played a little Zombie U and it seems neat. Nintendo Land was only really fun when I had another person here and 3 of us played.

I'm pretty sure that this generation of gaming, I'll be doing the same thing. Keeping Xbox as my main gaming console (or perhaps even PC now that Steam has 'Big Picture' mode..) and keeping Wii U as my "side piece" that I only really buy Nintendo titles.

From people I know who have it, to just slightly reading posts on the internet SANS fanboys, everyone seems to be "just OK" with this system.

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#2013 Strell

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:39 PM

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#2014 KingBroly

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:05 PM

The first free DLC update for Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge was released last night, which was Momiji as a playable character. She's pretty awesome, just like she was in Sigma 2.

But this game still has a big problem: Since the framerate drops hard, and boy do I mean HARD, it causes severe input lag, meaning you will miss inputs during these moments, as well as the block button locking up sometimes; meaning you won't be able to move. :\ It's enjoyable, but man this game needed like 2 months of more work.
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#2015 SaraAB

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:59 AM

Technically none of these systems are "a failure". As stated before a failure is a system that dies off shortly after launch and has about 10-12 games put out for it. The neo geo pocket color, n-gage and game.com are example of failure systems and to some extent the virtual boy.

A failure system wouldn't have games scheduled to come out in a year or more and it wouldn't have many games beyond the initial launch lineup. I don't own a Wii U or 3DS so I can't even say if these systems are really that bad or not, but technically they are not failures as they will probably be around for a long time and have many games scheduled to come out for them.

Nintendo's treatment of American fans is absolutely atrocious though, and therefore I probably will not be buying any of their products in the future. If I do buy their products it will be when the Wii is in the state it is now and the 3DS costs $99 or less. They promise TVii at launch, it is not here, it is now past Dec. 8th and the feature still isn't out yet. This is not a way to treat the launch buyers of your console who pay a premium to get promised features that ultimately never come.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:14 AM

Not to go too far off topic but I'm pretty sure the Neo Geo Pocket hung around longer than the Virtual Boy.

I want more Wii U games. The immediate release slate is pretty sparse. I guess that's the risk you run by having a good launch but alas, I already owned stuff like Blops 2, ME3, Batman AC, Darksiders 2 and Ass Creed 3 when the Wii U came out. I feel like I'm going to be rocking Mario and Nintendoland for ages.

As many of you know, black ops 2 is plaid with bugs, lag etc which many people have been suffering including me.


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#2017 Erad30

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:25 AM

Yeah I specifically held off on Darksiders II so I had a lengthy Zelda-esque game for the Wii U. Still actually gotta finish the first one though, got that like a month ago and haven't put much time into it.

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#2018 coolz481

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:44 AM

Not to go too far off topic but I'm pretty sure the Neo Geo Pocket hung around longer than the Virtual Boy.

I want more Wii U games. The immediate release slate is pretty sparse. I guess that's the risk you run by having a good launch but alas, I already owned stuff like Blops 2, ME3, Batman AC, Darksiders 2 and Ass Creed 3 when the Wii U came out. I feel like I'm going to be rocking Mario and Nintendoland for ages.



I highly recommend Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed if you have even the slightest interest in kart racers. It has the best single player modes I've ever played and the online runs well on Wii U as well - plus off TV play.
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#2019 GunPanther

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:52 PM

Sure, let me sell $150 sealed copy because you saw the used price being listed at $60, assuming you can even find a copy.


ROFL. What did you expect? We're all CAGs here, aren't we? I hardly expect a CAG to pay 'market value' for a rare and somewhat expensive game.
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#2020 Drclaw411

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:13 PM

I wonder if they'll release Wii games as "New New Play Control" lol

#2021 Sir_Fragalot

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:12 PM

I wonder if they'll release Wii games as "New New Play Control" lol

Hey if they do New Play Control HD Remakes of Wii games, this could be something interesting.
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#2022 Sir_Fragalot

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:14 PM

I highly recommend Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed if you have even the slightest interest in kart racers. It has the best single player modes I've ever played and the online runs well on Wii U as well - plus off TV play.

This. I mean yeah it could seem like oh just another Kart Racer that rips off Mario Kart, but it's way better than Mario Kart's recent offerings imo. Plus it has a singleplayer mode. Not just grand prix. Highly worth the money.
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#2023 Rig

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:57 PM

This. I mean yeah it could seem like oh just another Kart Racer that rips off Mario Kart, but it's way better than Mario Kart's recent offerings imo. Plus it has a singleplayer mode. Not just grand prix. Highly worth the money.


I think you guys have convinced me to pick this up the first time it drops a bit. I am still having fun with Nintendo Land, and, am not even halfway through NSMBU. (And I will 100% NSMBU...)

#2024 SaraAB

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:14 PM

To be fair the launch lineup here is actually much better than other consoles, because all consoles have a crappy launch lineup and the games will drop to a couple dollars each eventually in a few years. I fully expect Nintendo Land to reach Kinect Adventures pricing at GS eventually. It happens every time a system is launched. There is no killer app but has there ever been at a console's launch? The N64 was launched with 1 game from what I can remember and the Gamecube only had 2 games. The original DS only launched with a remake of an N64 game, Super Mario 64 DS, that was really terrible. The Wii and Wii U have had significantly more.

#2025 drktrpr1

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:38 PM

I want more Wii U games. The immediate release slate is pretty sparse. I guess that's the risk you run by having a good launch but alas, I already owned stuff like Blops 2, ME3, Batman AC, Darksiders 2 and Ass Creed 3 when the Wii U came out. I feel like I'm going to be rocking Mario and Nintendoland for ages.


I'm in the same boat, but there are a few good games to be found on the e-shop. Trine 2 is a pretty lengthy platform/puzzler that's well worth the price tag at $20, for example.
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#2026 GameNChick

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:57 PM

I've been loving the Wii U since getting it and surprisingly enough a lot of my hours have been spent on Miiverse XD

Currently only have three games for it,Nintendo Land/NSMB U and Zombi U but I've rented others like TANK! TANK! TANK! and Scribblenauts just got shipped by Gamefly, so I should be playing that in the next few days.

My personal ''cant wait for'' games at the moment are LEGO City,Pikmin 3 and Monster Hunter :D

#2027 dragonjud

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:44 PM

Update #2 completed: Awful that on a Wed afternoon, it took almost an hour to get that done. That included a disconnect from their side...

Menu navigation continues to be just as bad as before. Attempted to access the store to see if there's anything worth my time, but it's 'under maintenance' at the moment.
And by far the worse thing about today's interaction, was seeing the red charge light on the tablet. Most things in my play room are wireless, but this dangling wire/short battery life is going to be a nuisance.


#2028 pseudonem

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:45 PM

Update #2 completed: Awful that on a Wed afternoon, it took almost an hour to get that done. That included a disconnect from their side...

Menu navigation continues to be just as bad as before. Attempted to access the store to see if there's anything worth my time, but it's 'under maintenance' at the moment.
And by far the worse thing about today's interaction, was seeing the red charge light on the tablet. Most things in my play room are wireless, but this dangling wire/short battery life is going to be a nuisance.


They updated again? Takes an hour? FFS... I updated the damn thing and then wrapped it so my kid wouldn't have to sit through that crap on Christmas day. :(

It'll be interesting to see if this (or any!) online roll playing game can dethrone Ultima Online. I also hear that Blizzard's working on something but I can't see that doing any better for them then Diablo has.

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#2029 dragonjud

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:20 AM

They updated again? Takes an hour? FFS... I updated the damn thing and then wrapped it so my kid wouldn't have to sit through that crap on Christmas day. :(



The update I did today was released last week, I believe.
There was a day one update, and then another one last week (or week before that).
Nintendo promised another update for the TVii feature in December, so I'm assuming that regardless of anything else there will be another painful update just before Christmas.
I don't care anymore. I wrapped it today, and I'm not opening it again until Christmas day.


#2030 pseudonem

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:04 AM

The update I did today was released last week, I believe.
There was a day one update, and then another one last week (or week before that).
Nintendo promised another update for the TVii feature in December, so I'm assuming that regardless of anything else there will be another painful update just before Christmas.
I don't care anymore. I wrapped it today, and I'm not opening it again until Christmas day.


I miss the good old days. Just unwrap, plug-in (sure you had to move a big ass CRT TV) and play!

It'll be interesting to see if this (or any!) online roll playing game can dethrone Ultima Online. I also hear that Blizzard's working on something but I can't see that doing any better for them then Diablo has.

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#2031 Crunchewy

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:16 AM

Apparently the second update (if you did the first) will download automatically in the background as they play, so it doesn't seem necessary to open it and do the update.

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#2032 dothog

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 11:07 AM

I'm a page behind the discussion, but the fact that it isn't sluggish in games is beside the point if Nintendo's concept for the WIIU is taken seriously, a concept that features TVii, Netflix, Tivo, etc. as heavily as it does gaming on a tablet in the shitter.

boo's experience with system navigation load times is stupid. The Wii OS and WIIU development was ample time for nailing basic OS operations. I don't think it's a particularly good sign that they're playing catch-up on OS basics. This is especially out-of-tune from a company with a history of willfully ignored popular hardware trends (N64) or in-house media and readers (GC) to ensure that gamers have the fastest load times possible, the motive being, "You don't buy and use our products to wait on them."

It seems like TVii, Netflix, Tivo, etc. are being promoted in earnest (at least they got my attention with it). If they mean it, and I think they do, then they're an OS company whether they like it or not. They need to lock this shit down. Waiting on games I can understand, that development takes time, but releasing hardware with an iffy OS is not acceptable.
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:12 PM

Anybody know if these are going to be good controllers/if the company is reliable? http://www.amazon.co...words=wii u pro

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#2034 Strell

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

Anybody know if these are going to be good controllers/if the company is reliable? http://www.amazon.co...words=wii u pro


No one really knows right now. I personally want to try one out with Brawl, because it was always so annoying to need the Wiimote to start the system/game when I was going to use a Gamecube controller. Depending on what early reviews say will determine if I want to pick one up.


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#2035 Sir_Fragalot

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 05:10 PM

I think you guys have convinced me to pick this up the first time it drops a bit. I am still having fun with Nintendo Land, and, am not even halfway through NSMBU. (And I will 100% NSMBU...)

Quite honestly, I disliked Mario Kart DS, Wii and 7. 7 was the best of the three, but in my opinion Sonic blows them out of the water. Just alone for it's singleplayer tour mode which has challenges like drift, elimination and such. Things that really enhance the game beyond just basic grand prix. Plus the tracks are great because some tracks even change how you race them on lap 2/3,
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#2036 foltzie

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 05:16 PM

Anybody know if these are going to be good controllers/if the company is reliable? http://www.amazon.co...words=wii u pro

No one really knows right now. I personally want to try one out with Brawl, because it was always so annoying to need the Wiimote to start the system/game when I was going to use a Gamecube controller. Depending on what early reviews say will determine if I want to pick one up.


Worse, the images used for the product are still just renders. This until it shows up on some site being demoed is just vapourware. The only thing going for this product is that it was announced by Interworks and they have actually shipped some products before.

#2037 Batcave Dweller

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:39 PM

Frosty's finding himself having a constant stream of chuckles and WTFs while looking at what the Japanese Wii U owners drew on Miiverse. Some quirky imagination right there.

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#2038 drktrpr1

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 08:28 PM

Anybody know if these are going to be good controllers/if the company is reliable? http://www.amazon.co...words=wii u pro


Can't vouch for the functionality, but DAMN it looks EXACTLY like someone slapped analog sticks and shoulder buttons on top of a SNES controller :bouncy:

I hope that was intentional. Also comes in Gold, Black, Silver and White

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#2039 exceed19

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:57 PM

Can't vouch for the functionality, but DAMN it looks EXACTLY like someone slapped analog sticks and shoulder buttons on top of a SNES controller :bouncy:

I hope that was intentional. Also comes in Gold, Black, Silver and White


Love the retro styling of that controller, but usually aftermarket companies seem to produce no so great controllers - with the exception of Logitech (back on the PS2) which felt like a first-party product.

I hope someone buys one soon on CAG and gives a review!

#2040 Strell

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 10:44 PM

I hope someone buys one soon on CAG and gives a review!


If I don't see a few reviews within 1-2 weeks of release, I'll grab one and let you guys know.


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