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#2071 moothemagiccow

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:54 PM

what does that even mean

#2072 io

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:11 PM

Delayed tv functionality definitely has me regretting buying this video game console.


Yeah, because the primary function of a video game console is TV functionality... (Yeah, I realize you are probably being sarcastic - but I know there are people that really feel this way). While TVii sounds nice in theory, it was not the slightest bit of a factor for me in deciding to purchase the Wii U. So while the delay is slightly annoying I don't see it as that big of a deal. If someone bought it just for TVii (or even as a primary factor), it seems like there are probably better options out there.

#2073 RedvsBlue

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:26 PM

Am I the only person who bought a WiiU who gives absolutely 0 fucks about TVii?

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:20 AM

Am I the only person who bought a WiiU who gives absolutely 0 fucks about TVii?


I never knew about this TVii until Nintendo decided to make a big deal out of it. I'd equate it to Sony spending hours of their 'Wonder book' crap, instead of telling us about the Vita during E3.

I couldn't care less about it. However, we all know that they should really be working on improving the OS, instead of this useless feature (to me).
I know when I want to watch TV, and I have zero interest in turning on my Wii-u to help me do so.


#2075 RedvsBlue

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:31 AM

I never knew about this TVii until Nintendo decided to make a big deal out of it. I'd equate it to Sony spending hours of their 'Wonder book' crap, instead of telling us about the Vita during E3.

I couldn't care less about it. However, we all know that they should really be working on improving the OS, instead of this useless feature (to me).
I know when I want to watch TV, and I have zero interest in turning on my Wii-u to help me do so.


Apparently the featured territory for Wonder Book is Europe, we're (U.S.) more of an afterthought.

Eh, at any rate, unless its part of a firmware update, I'm not even sure I'll download TVii. I don't have a cable box and I only have amazon instant streaming so it doesn't seem like TVii will even do much for me anyway.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:29 PM

Yeah, because the primary function of a video game console is TV functionality... (Yeah, I realize you are probably being sarcastic - but I know there are people that really feel this way). While TVii sounds nice in theory, it was not the slightest bit of a factor for me in deciding to purchase the Wii U. So while the delay is slightly annoying I don't see it as that big of a deal. If someone bought it just for TVii (or even as a primary factor), it seems like there are probably better options out there.


Good grief, excusing away features before they've even dropped is dumb. It's an important feature. Maybe not to you, but it is to Nintendo, which counts for something.

One of the big selling points -- and this is Nintendo's doing, not an interpretation -- of this console is that it is a kind of media center, in N's way of doing things. They've been actively promoting the ability to continue gaming on the tablet if/when someone decides they want to watch TV. Furthermore, the launch announcement devoted a lot of time to TVii, which is to say that it wasn't filler. (For an example of genuine filler, see N's enthusiasm over the Lego whatsit.)

So don't pretend like it doesn't matter just because it distorts the perception you feel others should have of the console. If Nintnendo's home consoles are restricted this generation to being purely first-party game machines, their goose is cooked in the home console market. They've got to succeed with something else, they need a foothold for the generation after this.
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#2077 Strell

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:51 PM

Good review for that weirdo SNESiimote controller. The shoulder buttons aren't as good as they could be, and it is NOT meant to be a Wii U Pro controller (I think there was confusion on branding because the review specifically points out that this was never actually advertised). However, the Wii U can sort of be tricked with the controller, so you can get away with using it with, say, New Super Mario Bros Wii U, something you can't actually do with the Classic Controller (as the Wii U sees it as a Wiimote).

However, apparently everything else is great about the controller, including the Dpad. I'm definitely going to pick one up now and try it out with Brawl.

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#2078 007

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:43 PM

I was pretty shocked to see the decent review for that controller. I really expected a let-down. I'm guessing it will get savaged by the public review-wise, though, since I expect a huge amount of people will assume it's a Wii U Pro Controller. I get what they tried to do, but it really needed to be clearer.

In regards to the media center thing... biggest pet peeve with the Wii U so far? The constant spinning noise (or the fan or whatever it is) when a disc is in. I've stayed away from using the Wii U as my Netflix box just because I'm too lazy to get up and take the disc out.

#2079 nbballard

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:58 PM

I thought about using it as my Netflix box but was annoyed that I couldn't navigate the system or other Netflix menus while videos played. I like to browse while stuff is on like I do with my iPad when I use it on my ps3.
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#2080 ZForce915

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:11 PM

Good review for that weirdo SNESiimote controller. The shoulder buttons aren't as good as they could be, and it is NOT meant to be a Wii U Pro controller (I think there was confusion on branding because the review specifically points out that this was never actually advertised). However, the Wii U can sort of be tricked with the controller, so you can get away with using it with, say, New Super Mario Bros Wii U, something you can't actually do with the Classic Controller (as the Wii U sees it as a Wiimote).

However, apparently everything else is great about the controller, including the Dpad. I'm definitely going to pick one up now and try it out with Brawl.


This is fantastic news. I was hoping to use this in place of the teathered classic controller for Wii VC games.
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#2081 soonersfan60

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:26 PM

Well, if it can't replace a Wii U Pro Controller then I'll pass. Really disappointed in that. I am also confused that it doesn't appear to have the motion controls in it. That makes it not very useful for NSMB either...

#2082 ZForce915

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:37 PM

Well, if it can't replace a Wii U Pro Controller then I'll pass. Really disappointed in that. I am also confused that it doesn't appear to have the motion controls in it. That makes it not very useful for NSMB either...


http://www.amazon.co...=I187MLHN5K4PUV

It can fully replace a Wii remote, so motion is built in.
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#2083 screwkick

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:42 PM

Mind dropping a link?


http://kotaku.com/59...s-some-features

#2084 io

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 10:53 PM

Good grief, excusing away features before they've even dropped is dumb. It's an important feature. Maybe not to you, but it is to Nintendo, which counts for something.


I'm not excusing anything - it was a reaction to people saying they regret buying the console because of this small delay. If that was all you were buying it for then maybe you shouldn't have bought it at all - that's the point. Presumably most CAGs, at least, bought it for the fucking games, and not for TVii regardless of whatever marketing Nintendo did. You can argue that it is a mistake in terms of marketing to the general populace (which seems to be the basis of your whole post). But that's not what I was talking about. I stand by the notion that for most CAGs it is (or should be) a very minor feature.

And also, I can game right now while someone is watching TV. That doesn't require TVii - so one of the features you said Nintendo proclaimed is already there and is a nice one - what's your point with bringing that up?

But getting back to your last point (that they need to have something beyond first-party games to succeed): that may or may not be the case but that is all beside the point. TVii will be coming so that will be a feature of the console at some point. I'd argue that it will have very little effect on their success one way or the other, but since you seem to think it is so important I don't understand the issue. It willl be there and 2 or 3 years down the road if it is an important part of the system no one will care that it came out 1 or 2 or 3 months after launch. Thus a small delay should really not be anything to gnash teeth over and say the system is doomed as a result.

#2085 SaraAB

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 04:00 AM

The problem is that Nintendo does this over and over again, they promise a feature and it either doesn't come out on time or it doesn't come out at all. When you purchase a console at launch you are buying a promise of things that will come out. Also with a new console purchase at a premium price, you just expect the promised features to be there when they say they will be there.

I can expect a week delay, but this is not a week, this is much longer. If the feature is not going to be out on time then don't say it will, also don't promise us Dec. 8th and then deliver on the 20th, if its not going to be out on a certain date then don't say it will be. What this does is it makes gamers not trust Nintendo when they consistently say a feature will be out on Day x and it doesn't come. Most of the people who bought this console at this point are hardcore gamers who keep up.

#2086 Deader2818

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 04:05 AM

people as a whole have become to much of a "I want it now! even if I dont need it" society.

#2087 Strell

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 04:14 AM

The time to send a message to Nintendo was to not buy it at launch.

That's what I did, that's what I'm still doing, and for shit's sake, I have NO IDEA what everyone else's excuse is.


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#2088 Tiako

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:03 PM

Sold my Wii to get a Wii u but then backed out because it was shown the wii u specs hardly match up against ps3 and 360

I really think nintedo blew it on this one.

#2089 RedvsBlue

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:45 AM

Eh, same as Wii, I really don't put much into graphics. I bought it for the unique experience of it almost being like a console/portable hybrid and the overall experience of the tablet. Don't care much about the other like online, TVii, or achievements. For me, the WiiU is exactly what I wanted and I'm happy with my purchase.

If the next PlayStation and Xbox are just better graphics I'm not really sure I'll be interested.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 03:34 AM

Sold my Wii to get a Wii u but then backed out because it was shown the wii u specs hardly match up against ps3 and 360

I really think nintedo blew it on this one.



That is 100% BS, lol.

#2091 SaraAB

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 04:40 AM

Yes I know we have become a want it now society but if I pay $350 for a console I expect to get what I have been promised. I have not bought it yet but I am here to see if I might want to buy it.

#2092 nbballard

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:10 AM

Played around with TVii for a minute tonight. Seems like it could be cool if they ever get their act together and incorporate receiver support so i can actually use the channel changer.
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#2093 Tiako

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:34 AM

That is 100% BS, lol.


No it is not. You just refuse to look at the specs


Wii U CPU and GPU specifications. Marcan says that the Wii U processor has a clock speed of 1.24 GHz which is roughly less than half the speed of the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. The Wii U GPU apparently runs at 550 MHz, which is the same speed as the PlayStation 3 and slightly faster than the Xbox 360.

#2094 SEH

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:41 AM

No it is not. You just refuse to look at the specs


Wii U CPU and GPU specifications. Marcan says that the Wii U processor has a clock speed of 1.24 GHz which is roughly less than half the speed of the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. The Wii U GPU apparently runs at 550 MHz, which is the same speed as the PlayStation 3 and slightly faster than the Xbox 360.


Clock speeds mean nothing really. That's like if I have an 8800GT clocked at 950MHz and a GTX680 clocked at 800MHz. Yes, the clock speed on the old card is higher, but the 680 is gonna smoke the old 8800 in every conceivable way.

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#2095 nbballard

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:47 AM

No it is not. You just refuse to look at the specs


Wii U CPU and GPU specifications. Marcan says that the Wii U processor has a clock speed of 1.24 GHz which is roughly less than half the speed of the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. The Wii U GPU apparently runs at 550 MHz, which is the same speed as the PlayStation 3 and slightly faster than the Xbox 360.


Clock speed is a bad argument here. They are different boxes with different architectures. It just isn't a common metric.

Look at intel chips from generation to generation. The newer chips will have lower clock speeds, but are more powerful than their previous versions.

Anyway- sorry your purchase didn't work out. Maybe we will run into in one of the other console forums.
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#2096 elessar123

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:54 AM

No it is not. You just refuse to look at the specs


Wii U CPU and GPU specifications. Marcan says that the Wii U processor has a clock speed of 1.24 GHz which is roughly less than half the speed of the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. The Wii U GPU apparently runs at 550 MHz, which is the same speed as the PlayStation 3 and slightly faster than the Xbox 360.


It's the 90s all over again!

MIPS is a better comparison, but still not great.

#2097 Scobie

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:58 AM

Clock speeds mean nothing really. That's like if I have an 8800GT clocked at 950MHz and a GTX680 clocked at 800MHz. Yes, the clock speed on the old card is higher, but the 680 is gonna smoke the old 8800 in every conceivable way.


I don't know why you're talking about cars here. The fact is that the Wii U is probably no more powerful than an over clocked NeoGeo, every single game on it is old and therefore not fun, and Mensa is awarding free memberships for everyone who posts on an Internet forum that they're not buying one. These are all facts and should be added to the original post.

Anyway, I'm mightily enjoying my Wii U experience so far. I've found the playing community to be funny, thoughtful, and generally kind and helpful, and the games have been tremendously entertaining. I'm very much looking forward to the next couple of years of gaming on this system.
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#2098 skiizim

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:00 AM

Microprocessors have gone to there limitations that GPUs are starting to pick up the slack for them. I don't care what the specs are, I'm not 13 anymore and that argument is totally redundant, I play games for what they offer me in enjoyment not what they look like. As far as I''m concerned first generation games look great to me and can't wait to see what they bring up next.

#2099 elessar123

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:05 AM

Microprocessors have gone to there limitations that GPUs are starting to pick up the slack for them. I don't care what the specs are, I'm not 13 anymore and that argument is totally redundant, I play games for what they offer me in enjoyment not what they look like. As far as I''m concerned first generation games look great to me and can't wait to see what they bring up next.


I still care about the stuff. I built a pretty top-of-the-midrange PC, and what have I mostly played on it? Angband and FTL...

#2100 skiizim

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:12 AM

Well a PC is on a league of it's own, I think that is where a lot of people have a hard time understanding a console vs PC. I think people just can't stand the fact that Nintendo built an HD console, being number one for so long is sure to attract plenty of haters.