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#2611 io

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:55 PM

Strawman argument at its finest. Also spoken like someone who hasn't played Condemned or Kameo... wait, oh you haven't played any game on that list have you? :lol: Both of those were fantastic.


I think you need to look up the definition of "Strawman argument". I said it was my opinion, I wasn't setting up a straw man in order to tear it down. And I did play (and beat) Kameo once I picked up a 360. Just because I didn't play a game at the launch doesn't mean I never played it. Kameo was just OK - IN MY OPINION. Yes, I'd still say NintendoLand is a better launch title. And thank you for validating that NSMB is better than any of those 360 games - that was sort of the point. I'm not saying the Wii U had a stellar launch as it only had (and still only has) a few good games. But that is par for the course - the 360 didn't blow anyone away either except that it was the first HD console so relative to the PS3/Xbox/Gamecube it was new and shiny. The Wii U of course does not have that advantage since it is just playing catch-up in the graphics department. But game-wise, the 360 launch was just as mediocre as most (if not all) console launches and it seems like everyone from the top down here on CAG forgets that. And whether I played all the games or not doesn't mean I can't look at those games and give them a big "meh" - my 360 would have been collecting dust as well if I bought one at launch. Seeing that list makes me glad I didn't. Hell, I'm certainly entitled to my opinion as much as the 95% of CAGs dumping on the Wii U who have never so much as touched one :roll:.

From what I've seen it's in some strange limbo where it's not a completely new game, but it's way way way more content than an "expansion". New areas, tons of new monsters to hunt (though a good handful are just more powerful re-skins of existing beasts), new items, a second chacha for soloing, save transfer ability between WiiU and 3DS versions (which I'm pumped about), etc.

I'm really hoping for some sort of "buy WiiU and 3DS versions, get 20 off" or some such. I travel for work so it'd be great to farm solo on the road, then get home to WiiU and jump online with the same character.


That would be nice. It would have been even better if they had a bundle with both versions for say $70 or so, or maybe $80 with some exclusive DLC or something. They'd have gotten me hooked in for sure if they did that. You wonder if this were a Sony exclusive if it would have been a cross-play title. I picked up Sly Cooper at release partly because of that.

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#2612 moothemagiccow

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

Man the ports on this console suck. I thought Assassins Creed would be great but they just duplicated the minimap on the second screen. The map's actually worse than brotherhood. Seems obvious to me that they'd put the whole map functionality on the gamepad - let you scroll around, add markers, etc.

You can't use the touch screen for the menus, either. Dumb

#2613 nbballard

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:58 PM

The ME3 port is pretty good from my experience, but the interactive comic from ME2 forces you to either kill your ship crew or half of your combat crew (from what I can tell), meaning you start 3 with a lot of familiar faces missing regardless of how you respond. It was upsetting.
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#2614 KingBroly

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:19 AM

Sonic Racing is a good port
Mass Effect 3 is a good port, but no one bought it because they were pissed that PS3/360/PC got Trilogy for the same price a couple of weeks beforehand
Black Ops 2 is a good port, but there's no DLC for it (yet, anyway)
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 is a good port
Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge is a good port, but the game is still bad
Assassin's Creed 3 is a good port

Everything else ranges from okay to really bad in terms of ports.

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#2615 Josh5890

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:28 AM

Sonic Racing is a good port
Mass Effect 3 is a good port, but no one bought it because they were pissed that PS3/360/PC got Trilogy for the same price a couple of weeks beforehand
Black Ops 2 is a good port, but there's no DLC for it (yet, anyway)
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 is a good port
Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge is a good port, but the game is still bad

Everything else ranges from okay to really bad in terms of ports.


I played all of the Assassin's Creed games on the PS3 before AC 3. I didn't feel any negative differences on the Wii-U so I would call it a good port as well.

#2616 Deader2818

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:10 AM

I enjoyed Ninja Gaiden 3 and the Wii U version was a lot better.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:02 AM

The ME3 port is pretty good from my experience, but the interactive comic from ME2 forces you to either kill your ship crew or half of your combat crew (from what I can tell), meaning you start 3 with a lot of familiar faces missing regardless of how you respond. It was upsetting.


Yeah, I started playing this today and I have to agree that particular choice was... strange. It got even more baffling when I discovered that you get Dr. Chakwas even if the crew dies. All the other choices were the same black and white ones they were in the previous games, so I don't quite understand that one. Oh well.

Anyway, in regards to ports, ME3 is pretty great. To me, this is what the second screen is great for... you get a decent (and interactive) real-time map, and you can hotkey powers. Why developers think we need more than that, I have no idea. Then, it appears that most aren't even willing to go that far, so...

Oh, and it has the most seamless screen switching I've seen yet. It's basically instantaneous. I'll be strange enough to admit that I actually switched the screen to get up and get something to drink just because it was so easy.

#2618 nbballard

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:48 AM

Wait--- are you saying you can switch screens in me3?! I couldn't find it. How?!
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#2619 007

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:49 AM

Wait--- are you saying you can switch screens in me3?! I couldn't find it. How?!


Don't feel bad, I actually had to look it up... Hold select for a second or two. Switches right over.

#2620 moothemagiccow

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 04:09 AM

I played all of the Assassin's Creed games on the PS3 before AC 3. I didn't feel any negative differences on the Wii-U so I would call it a good port as well.


That was my problem. It wasn't worse, but it wasn't better either. I could've just bought it on PS3. I'm not talking pixels, framerate or whatever.

They fail to make us of an obvious control advantage and just slap a minimap on the gamepad. The same one that's in the corner of the tv screen. It's like 3DS games that use the top screen for menus and leave the bottom one blank. The active-time events are bad, too. Yes I could hold A to loot corpses, but I could also tap a nice little touchscreen button that says Loot and there wouldn't be two commands overlapping one button. And you know they were aware of it, because there's a Call Horse button on the touch screen.

At least in Arkham City you could drag the map and see the rest of the city (though I have other beefs with that version, considering it came long after the original). In AC3 even when you open the proper map with Select, you still have to move it with the thumbstick. Laziness.

Edited by moothemagiccow, 10 February 2013 - 04:43 AM.
dear god i sound so whiny


#2621 moothemagiccow

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:19 AM

Or how about this? Bottom screen: eagle vision/detective mode, top screen, nice graphics. My god these games are the exact same

#2622 Deader2818

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:32 AM

Developers have gotten very lazy.

#2623 KingBroly

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:14 AM

It seems like the port of Resident Evil Revelaitons will have off-tv play, Pro Controller support and modified touch screen controls from the 3DS version. So...it seems like Capcpom is putting in a tiny bit of effort on the Wii U version.
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#2624 TimboSliceGB

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:46 AM

If Apple's iTunes Match wasn't so clunky, it would be an amazing system overall.

Being able to play games I bought on PS3 on my Vita is great and all (really, it is), but I'm going to hold my breath until the PS4 is released later this month. I'm still a bit sore about PS2 BC disappearing this generation, and have concerns about whether or not the next Playstation and Xbox will play the digital games I've purchased. They bloody better.


im not sold that ps4 will be announced on the 20th. I would be shocked if it is the big news at the press conf the 20th.

#2625 Deader2818

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:52 AM

I don't know what else they could be doing that they would be inviting a bunch of investors and media etc too unless its a vita price drop or a re design of the vita.

#2626 moothemagiccow

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:29 AM

I know there ain't much going on this weekend but try to stay on topic.

#2627 Erad30

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:36 PM

Sonic Racing is a good port
Mass Effect 3 is a good port, but no one bought it because they were pissed that PS3/360/PC got Trilogy for the same price a couple of weeks beforehand
Black Ops 2 is a good port, but there's no DLC for it (yet, anyway)
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 is a good port
Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge is a good port, but the game is still bad
Assassin's Creed 3 is a good port

Everything else ranges from okay to really bad in terms of ports.


I'd add Darksiders II to the list of good ports.

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#2628 TimboSliceGB

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 03:36 AM

I don't know what else they could be doing that they would be inviting a bunch of investors and media etc too unless its a vita price drop or a re design of the vita.


i was thinking the same thing that it could be something to do with vita. that would make alot of people mad. They could also say well we have a new system coming out in 2014 at the end and say they will show it at e3. Ps3 has just came out with white in u.s and a red one with god of war. That would be awful thing to do and say oh well you have to pay for a new system from us in fall after you just paid 300 bucks for white ps3.

#2629 nbballard

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:31 AM

I've been playing Skylanders Giants on the wiiU. I've got it on the PS3, and its damn near the same. The gamepad only option is the best- since I can watch TV and listen to something other than the bad VAs they added.
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#2630 Josh5890

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 03:11 PM

Judging by reviews, it doesn't seem like we are missing much with Aliens: Colonial Marines.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 03:25 PM

Judging by reviews, it doesn't seem like we are missing much with Aliens: Colonial Marines.


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#2632 KingBroly

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:17 PM

Eurogamer gave it a 3/10. Edge gave it a 5/10. Destructoid gave it a 2.5/10. IGN gave it a 4.5/10. Clearly not something to be missed, assuming it got cancelled for Wii U.
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#2633 dothog

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:50 PM

Eurogamer gave it a 3/10. Edge gave it a 5/10. Destructoid gave it a 2.5/10. IGN gave it a 4.5/10. Clearly not something to be missed, assuming it got cancelled for Wii U.


Yeah, not a big deal. The WIIU didn't need their stupid game, anyhow.

Postpone a title for 6 months, however, and there's going to be hell to pay, Ubisoft!
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#2634 Deader2818

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:53 PM

Rayman games are actually good games though and the Rayman game was actually making great use of the tablet.

Apples to oranges.

#2635 dothog

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:03 PM

I thought it was grapes for whining.

But sure, whatever fruit works for you.
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#2636 Deader2818

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:15 PM

Yeah, I guess when a game people are looking forward to gets delayed 6 months for no real reason, everyone should be happy about it.

#2637 Josh5890

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:21 PM

Yeah, I guess when a game people are looking forward to gets delayed 6 months for no real reason, everyone should be happy about it.


This. The game is ready to ship in two weeks. Even the devs are screaming to release it.

#2638 Billytwoshoes

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:45 PM

This. The game is ready to ship in two weeks. Even the devs are screaming to release it.

Seconding this, here is the link for those that are interested.

When Michel Ancel gets aboard the hate train, a least some of the whining can be justified, right?

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#2639 ZForce915

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 12:57 AM

Anyone know when the February $.30 WiiU VC game comes out? I couldn't find info on that.
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#2640 pitfallharry219

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:20 AM

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