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#2011 tylerh1701

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 12:52 AM

Yeah I was not a Braid fan, either. Great art style and music, but the puzzles just weren't very fun.


I'm a huge fan of puzzle games, and Braid is my favorite XBLA game. I was so proud of myself that I only had to look up 1 answer.

I'm not sure how Geometry Wars is underrated. They're critically acclaimed and beloved XBLA games, so the only way they could be underrated is if you think they should be bigger than Jesus.


I would agree with this statement completely.

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#2012 tylerh1701

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 12:58 AM

Also, to make sure this thread stays off the rails, I'd say the most overrated are Castle Crashers, Trials HD, N+, and Pacman Championship Edition DX. Underrated would include Raskulls, Rocket Riot, Winterbottom, and Shuggy.

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#2013 Chrono Gear

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 01:35 AM

I could have sworn I spent quite a few sentences explaining my dislike of a game was due to its mechanics and not its popularity. It probably was the great mystery, since I love the mindless button mashing, how I was unable to enjoy it as others do. I have illustrated all the mechanical reasons to how it didn't feel right to me in an earlier post ... but it was not due to its popularity. I can also take pleasure in popular games as well.


You did explain. I wasn't directing that comment at you. I just know there are a lot of haters for seemingly no reason and I expect them to start coming out of the wordwork. If you don't like it that's cool. As my dad always says "If everyone liked the same things, everyone would be after your mother".

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 01:41 AM

I'm not sure how Geometry Wars is underrated. They're critically acclaimed and beloved XBLA games, so the only way they could be underrated is if you think they should be bigger than Jesus.


Pretty much what I was gonna say. You cannot say that two of the biggest XBLA games are underrated. That's like saying Halo or Gears of War are underrated.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 01:52 AM

My underrated/underapreciated XBLA games would be both Penny Arcade Adventures episodes, Chime, Joe Danger SE, Space Invaders Infinity Gene, and Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes HD.


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Posted 11 February 2012 - 01:55 AM

My underrated/underapreciated XBLA games would be both Penny Arcade Adventures episodes, Chime, Joe Danger SE, Space Invaders Infinity Gene, and Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes HD.


Space Invaders IG is fucking amazing. I wish it would go on sale on PSN (again?) so I could play it again for some trophies.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 01:56 AM

Do we really need to debate this...the most underrated game by far is
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Edit: Well I see I shut that down proper :)

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#2018 tylerh1701

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 02:24 AM

My underrated/underapreciated XBLA games would be both Penny Arcade Adventures episodes, Chime, Joe Danger SE, Space Invaders Infinity Gene, and Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes HD.


Penny Arcade and Spaced Invaders IG are both EXCELLENT and underrated games. Totally forgot about these because I have them on PSN. Swarm, Mercury Hg, and Fancy Pants Adventures are three more underrated hits.

Space Invaders IG is fucking amazing. I wish it would go on sale on PSN (again?) so I could play it again for some trophies.


Again. I think it was on sale on PSN before XBLA, because I ended up with it on PSN.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 04:04 AM

The Devil May Cry series comes to mind. Some might argue that that's not a beat-em-up, but IMO that and the modern Ninja Gaiden games are pretty much what the genre has evolved into. The later games in the series have some gameplay mechanics that are pretty tough to master.


No, they're a different genre. The one you're talking about is referred to as 'action.' There are similarities, but you might as well try to claim that modern Ninja Gaiden games are platformers since they have some jumping.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 04:39 AM

take out that narrator and nobody remembers it


That's a poor argument.

Take out Master Chief and nobody remembers Halo
Take out falling blocks and no one remembers Bejeweled
Take out plastic guitars and no one remembers Guitar Hero
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 04:46 AM

bastion is the most overrated

take out that narrator and nobody remembers it


Bizzare argument. The game is clearly crafted in an extremely specific way, one in which the narrator is the main storyteller and driving the story along.

So yeah, if it was an incomplete game with a huge part missing, perhaps we wouldn't still be talking about it.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 04:50 AM

No, they're a different genre. The one you're talking about is referred to as 'action.'

In DMC you run into a new area, then you're surrounded by a group of badguys with whom to deal out a few close range attacks, and you move on through a fairly linear game that is broken into stages. "But DMC has guns" you say. Even the original Double Dragon has guns. You level up and gain new moves, just like Double Dragon the NES. And didn't Dante have to fight off his evil brother just like Billy did? About all DMC lacks is a disembodied hand pointing you where to go next.

There are similarities, but you might as well try to claim that modern Ninja Gaiden games are platformers since they have some jumping.

Except the primary concept behind NG isn't jumping, it's melee combat. Hmm, now that you mention it... DMC's and Ninja Gaiden's jumping mechanics are just about as janky as Double Dragon I & II's.

Please don't mistake this post as saying Double Dragon and DMC are the exact same, because they're not. Rather that DMC is an evolution of Double Dragon's core concepts. People seem to be locked into the idea that a beat-em-up has to a 2D sidescroller. They've evolved just like every other genre has.

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#2023 Barry Burton

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 05:18 AM

That's a poor argument.

Take out Master Chief and nobody remembers Halo
Take out falling blocks and no one remembers Bejeweled
Take out plastic guitars and no one remembers Guitar Hero


my point was the game play stinks

the narrator made it unique

#2024 tylerh1701

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 05:31 AM

I always hate when people start making overrated lists, etc. because it's basically just an excuse to hate on or criticize something that lots of other people like. I do not see the need to do that...


I'd agree insomuch as I'd much rather hear people talk positively about games they like than negatively about games they dislike.

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#2025 steveau

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 09:10 AM

Take out Master Chief and nobody remembers Halo
Take out falling blocks and no one remembers Bejeweled
Take out plastic guitars and no one remembers Guitar Hero


Take guns out of Call of Duty and you have camouflaged men with helmets running around throwing bombs at each others feet.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 09:23 AM

Take guns out of Call of Duty and you have camouflaged men with helmets running around throwing bombs at each others feet.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 10:24 AM

Take guns out of Call of Duty and you have camouflaged men with helmets running around throwing bombs at each others feet.



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Posted 11 February 2012 - 01:08 PM

Out of agruements/discussions we are having, I see something I should try out:

Space Invaders Infinity Gene.

I'll get back to you guys as I try a demo out of that game.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 03:49 PM

Out of agruements/discussions we are having, I see something I should try out:

Space Invaders Infinity Gene.

I'll get back to you guys as I try a demo out of that game.


I love the game on fruit devices, I think it may be on the robot devices too. I got this on XBLA when it was last on sale (since Taito is another absorbed into Square-Enix, a shame it is not part of the Square-Enix sale), but it currently sits on my 360's backlog. The XBLA version unlike the touchscreen versions offers a bit more precision control given our familiarity with D-pads/analog sticks, but I have not found a way to move from one side to the other as quickly as I can with a touchscreen, which may mean the game was designed with touchscreens in mind, and not much adjusted for a console release.

I am also looking at the Space Invaders: Infinity Gene DLC to take advantage of the 5% rewards. The DLC seems overpriced at 240MSP each for a total of 720MSP. I chalk it up to the "Square-Enix tax" for the higher than accepted price. However, this is content which I surmise has a low chance of seeing a sale. Can anyone here tell me about the value in these bonus stages?

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 04:04 PM

I'm assuming the ME3 demo isn't going to allow you to be part of the %5.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 04:21 PM

That may be the only advantage, as having your finger blocking your view of your ship and the stage is a big issue even with some of the concessions that they made. The other weapons that you unlock help with any issues you have.


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Posted 11 February 2012 - 05:10 PM

I'm assuming the ME3 demo isn't going to allow you to be part of the %5.


Assuming you are talking about the rewards, you have to be gold from 1 Feb - 29 Feb. So the ME3 demo won't help you.
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 05:49 PM

Man this thread has gone to hell.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 06:05 PM

Man this thread has gone to hell.


You don't like the XBL DotW & Sales & Everyone Needs To Know My Unrelated Opinion & The Popular Game You Like Sucks thread?

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 07:18 PM

Man this thread has gone to hell.


Tends to happen during slower weeks. Guess there isn't a whole lot of excitement for Crimson Alliance. It's a good game. I guess the discount is not good enough for most.

Also the Square-Enix sale is useless to me as all the Square content I want is still not on sale. :(

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 07:18 PM

You don't like the XBL DotW & Sales & Everyone Needs To Know My Unrelated Opinion & The Popular Game You Like Sucks thread?


Nah not really. Not a bad name though for the thread. Joey do your thing and make it so :lol:

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 07:27 PM

Assuming you are talking about the rewards, you have to be gold from 1 Feb - 29 Feb. So the ME3 demo won't help you.

ok thanks

#2038 tylerh1701

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 07:53 PM

Tends to happen during slower weeks. Guess there isn't a whole lot of excitement for Crimson Alliance. It's a good game. I guess the discount is not good enough for most.

Also the Square-Enix sale is useless to me as all the Square content I want is still not on sale. :(


Yeah, I haven't bought Crimson Alliance yet. I will get it by Monday, but the mixture of its unusual price structure and only being 33% off instead of 50% has made me delay the decision til the last minute.

As for the Square Enix sale, there's nothing that interests me. I'm not a big DLC guy, I think I've only ever bought DLC for Borderlands, Mass Effect 2, and Resident Evil 5.

The Batman sale next week doesn't do anything for me either. I had the game for 360 but sold it, and plan to re-buy it again for PS3 eventually. But even if I had it, no way I'd dip for the DLC.

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#2039 Chrono Gear

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 08:00 PM

The Batman sale next week doesn't do anything for me either. I had the game for 360 but sold it, and plan to re-buy it again for PS3 eventually. But even if I had it, no way I'd dip for the DLC.


Totally forgot about the Batman sale next week. Might be suckered into buying the Batmobile prop. Is it just the Nightwing and Robin DLC packs going on sale? I'm waiting for the DLC bundle and skins to go on sale.

#2040 tylerh1701

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 08:15 PM

Totally forgot about the Batman sale next week. Might be suckered into buying the Batmobile prop. Is it just the Nightwing and Robin DLC packs going on sale? I'm waiting for the DLC bundle and skins to go on sale.


Yeah I think it's just gonna be the Nightwing/Robin DLC. I would be interested if it was campaign DLC, but those challenge maps do nothing for me. The skins seem cool, but I'm happy to say I've never bought a skin before for any game.

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