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#31 testudo

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:16 PM

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#32 killthemall4444

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:43 PM

Why do the podcasts keep getting shorter? God damn it I want moar.

#33 metallicoholic

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:18 AM

I'm with Shipwreck on the whole "used game lockout" rumor for the next Xbox. There's just no way that could feasibly happen. What I could see instead is a push toward more digital media maybe with better incentives for buying through the console itself.

This crusade against used games is driving me to despise current-gen gaming. As much as I agree with Wombat's "make better games" argument, I think the price of new games is more a deterrent than the game's quality. I'm primarily a single-player kind of gamer and the push toward more multi-player is causing games to get shorter and shorter in the single-player department. Why would I pay $60 for a game that I'll only half-utilize?
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#34 kiddvid

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:19 AM

No way Wombat is Sam. Total Gibby.

#35 djsoohoo83

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:35 AM

Great Cagcast!!! To comment about microsoft points cards and psn cards, I've gotten $20 psn cards on sale for either $16-$18 and msp cards too before I started getting points free from bing rewards. Also, shipwreck is right about stores not charging tax on the cards.

#36 Grantimus

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:43 AM

Good show as always. I think you guys are underestimating the power of the Wii U. A lot of people have been, and in the last week there have been lots of rumors pointing in the opposite direction. I think a significant power increase over the HD twins of this generation will be enough to get a lot of gamers interested. People are getting tired of the increasing graphical difference between the 360 and the PC. People crave a new powerhouse console, and Nintendo will be first to the market by a huge margin.

#37 DugFreez

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:46 AM

I have never been charged tax on MS points when buying them directly from LIVE either. Seems strange that some are charged and some aren't.

PS: An entertaining show as usual Gents.

#38 thenexus6

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 10:17 AM

Why build a PC when you have a very capable Mac.Just put windows in a partition and use boot camp.Instant gaming PC.


Especially if Cheapy is going to buy the next iMac, more than capable to run games.

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#39 4thHorseman

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:02 PM

Few thoughts:

Have you guys set Cheapy on fire in Saints Row? The screaming is so hilarious and is my favorite thing about having Cheapy in my game. Sorry Cheapy.

I wouldn't blame Microsoft for implementing a online code ala DC Universe Online to stop the used game sales. It would basically replace the Project $10 that everyone hates with something else everyone despises. But really, they need to do what is best for them. But if they did something like that, it would lead to a big backlash with Gamestop who have much more power than they probably should have.

#40 itachiitachi

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 05:02 PM

Why build a PC when you have a very capable Mac.Just put windows in a partition and use boot camp.Instant gaming PC.

It would mean that his current Mac would have to be somewhat powerful, which means it would probably have to be new and expensive, and if I recall correctly it is not new.
Also he probably wants to be able to upgrade his computer, and unless apple has changed its policies recently many parts will be hard or impossible to upgrade on a mac.

Why do so many people refer to the next Xbox iteration as the Xbox 720? It doesn't make any sense. Xbox 360 made sense because "360" meant all encompassing (video, online, games, music, etc.). Who thought that multiplying the 360 by 2 was the next iteration? Has Microsoft put that out as the temporary project name anywhere? It's not like they are at a skate park doing double 360's. It sounds bad but Xbox 360 2 makes more sense (they won't use that). Most likely they will just give it a new name to follow the "Xbox" brand. Sorry /rant off.

Well the 360 was the 2nd console and it could represent the 2nd dimension, and the number of degrees in a square or circle is 360, so if the third console represents the third dimension then we would have a sphere or cube, the only way I know to make any kind of degree measurement on those would be a angle deficit which would be 720 degrees.

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#41 BobTheGamer

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 10:17 PM

I'm gonna have to disagree with Cheapy on The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. The show is good at times, but overall I have trouble believing civilization can still be standing when there's a global apocalypse every other weekend. I liked how the different heroes argued with each other and how Iron Man grew to be the leader, but that was far overshadowed by the ridiculous overpowered villains. Overall, I really couldn't get into it.

As for the best cartoon ever? Cheapy, you need to watch Avatar: The Last Airbender with Tai. It's on Netflix!

#42 Velo214

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 11:58 PM

iv got 4 kids. it is chaos
also yeah mw3 was 39.99 at bestbuy before xmas even.

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#43 bickle

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 12:45 AM

Why do so many people refer to the next Xbox iteration as the Xbox 720?


Because 1) no one knows what it will be called, and 2) everyone knows what you mean when you say Xbox 720. In the end it doesn't matter since whatever we call it will be most likely wrong.

Heck, call it Xbox Pure, if that seems like a better name.

I'll check out the Avengers cartoon, but I have a hard time believing it'll be better than Batman the Animated Series or Justice League.

#44 Ruahrc

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 06:52 AM

Cheapy, I know this comment is for a CAGCast a couple weeks old but I'm a little behind on listening to the episodes. You mentioned not wanting to put a PC in your living room and was looking into a wireless HDMI transmitter.

I have another suggestion. Build a small format PC. Gaming PC's don't have to be large, or noisy. I built one myself about 4-5 months ago and I've loved it.

Computers based on the microATX or miniITX form factor motherboards can be incredibly small, yet contain the same gaming power as a full-sized PC, because they use the same power supplies, graphics cards, CPUs, etc. It's just the motherboard and case that is smaller than the regular sized ATX ones. They can be made to be incredibly compact (even down to shoebox size) and also can be very quiet with a little forethought in component selection. Whoever ends up building your PC should be able to put together a SFF gaming PC, if they know what they are doing.

I started using SFF PCs about 7 years ago and haven't looked back since. I refuse to own another large mid-tower or full-sized tower PC ever again since I can get the same functionality in a much smaller package.

Anyway, just a suggestion. You could put one of those in your living room and it would end up being very unobtrusive. Even if you still go for the wireless HDMI transmitter, and put the PC in your office, you can still consider using a small form factor PC. Gaming PC's don't have to be loud, bulky, or full of cheesy LED lights. Just sayin.

#45 Kezmer

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 07:47 PM

I like the speculations on what the next XBOX will be called, I could see it being called NEXTBOX, NXTBOX or (N3XTBOX ha ha god I hope not) maybe just the XBOX 3 to save them from having to worry about a xXBOX 1440.

However I don't see anyway they can lock out used game sales, It just seems pointless. I also am not a fan of buying everything digitally, yes it is convenient but I have yet to get beyond the fact that I like to have something to show for my money. I have no problem with DLC being digital due to size but most of America has ridiculously stupid bandwidth caps from their ISP providers and If you have to download a double or triple layer Blu-Ray game to your machine you used a bunch of your cap just to play a game. (I have Charter 60 MB, it's great and fast but my limit is 250 GB a month before I get throttled apparently)

I am not sure what other CAG's think about the digital distribution model, I just don't see it working until the ISP's give up and stop holding people back with their internet
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#46 gepet0

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:10 PM

Imo points are way better than money. There is some psycological edge Ms has to using them. I feel more comfortable spending 800 points vs $10.00.

I guarentee you it will backfire and sales will drop off as most people are more apt to spend points over cash. Just like with credit cards. It has been proven over and over again.

While the move to money may have been green lighted just like the udraw it will fail. People will still buy just not at the same rate.

#47 spid

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 02:10 PM

So if CheapyD is a C list internet celebrity, and lets say Veronica Belmount is an A list Internet Celebrity what is a B list internet celebrity?

#48 Curufinwe

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:24 PM

Imo points are way better than money. There is some psycological edge Ms has to using them. I feel more comfortable spending 800 points vs $10.00.

I guarentee you it will backfire and sales will drop off as most people are more apt to spend points over cash. Just like with credit cards. It has been proven over and over again.

While the move to money may have been green lighted just like the udraw it will fail. People will still buy just not at the same rate.


Apple seems to sell quite a lot of content and they charge money.

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#49 Microshock

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 06:47 AM

Especially if Cheapy is going to buy the next iMac, more than capable to run games.


You're kidding, right? Well, the abysmal game library on the Mac is one thing, the fact that the iMac is a horrible form factor for overclocking and actual gaming is another.


Cheapy, I know this comment is for a CAGCast a couple weeks old but I'm a little behind on listening to the episodes. You mentioned not wanting to put a PC in your living room and was looking into a wireless HDMI transmitter.

I have another suggestion. Build a small format PC. Gaming PC's don't have to be large, or noisy. I built one myself about 4-5 months ago and I've loved it.

Computers based on the microATX or miniITX form factor motherboards can be incredibly small, yet contain the same gaming power as a full-sized PC, because they use the same power supplies, graphics cards, CPUs, etc. It's just the motherboard and case that is smaller than the regular sized ATX ones. They can be made to be incredibly compact (even down to shoebox size) and also can be very quiet with a little forethought in component selection. Whoever ends up building your PC should be able to put together a SFF gaming PC, if they know what they are doing.

I started using SFF PCs about 7 years ago and haven't looked back since. I refuse to own another large mid-tower or full-sized tower PC ever again since I can get the same functionality in a much smaller package.

Anyway, just a suggestion. You could put one of those in your living room and it would end up being very unobtrusive. Even if you still go for the wireless HDMI transmitter, and put the PC in your office, you can still consider using a small form factor PC. Gaming PC's don't have to be loud, bulky, or full of cheesy LED lights. Just sayin.


Eh, gaming PC's are usually larger than normal PC's because of cooling and how big the parts are. A GTX 560 is like four DS's stacked 2 x 2. Unless you're going to get liquid cooling in that small form factor, it'll get hotter in that small form factor case than a normal one. I recommend the HAF 922, its a big one but its a great case. I assume Cheapy will get top of the line parts, a HAF 932, GTX 580, i5 2500k, 8 gigs of ram, a good motherboard and ...yeah.

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#50 aerotive

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 05:25 PM

So if CheapyD is a C list internet celebrity, and lets say Veronica Belmount is an A list Internet Celebrity what is a B list internet celebrity?


They only talk about her tits here.

For that episode I was embarrassed to be a listener and for them.

#51 gepet0

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 08:30 PM

Apple seems to sell quite a lot of content and they charge money.


Yeah but Apple and 360 users are two totally different types. Humans yes but apples and oranges.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:54 AM

Hey Cheapy - regarding your enjoyment of and suckage in Battlefield 3, buy a Frag FX Shark controller for your FPS pleasure. Its a PC like mouse controller for your right hand and half a regular controller for your left hand ( kinda like a PS3 move controller with the thumbstick). It will take a few sessions to get used to it, but will definitely improve your play, especially if you've ever played PC shooters.

I got one and am average at Battlefield 3, without it I suck. I was really dominant using it in Battlefield Bad company 2 sniping in hardcore mode, but they've lowered/balanced the effectiveness of snipingin BF3.

#53 LimpDaddy

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:21 PM

Love the show! I got a couple of things:

I'm a bit creeped out that Wombat and Ship both know some much about iCarly. Creepers. I have 2 kids 11 and 9 so I have been subjected to the occasional iCarly ep. I gotta admit the show is pretty funny but since I have kids in that show's demo makes me feel less creepy. Ship also coaches girls b-ball...but I was a bit relieved to hear him say that his niece was on the team (I think) so that's not as creepy I guess.

I love Cheapy's homie in SR3. Cheap, you are definitely living the dream.

I think building/buying a gaming PC is what we all should be doing for this year. The games already look better and the new worthwhile consoles aren't going to be out this year. Also the PC games drop in price so quickly and the fact that Amazon/Steam run incredible deals on downloads is almost reason enough to make the switch.

#54 WhiskyBR

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 10:49 PM

Hey Cheapy - regarding your enjoyment of and suckage in Battlefield 3, buy a Frag FX Shark controller for your FPS pleasure.


I don't use one, but the XIM3 looks to be better since you can use whatever mouse and keyboard you want. http://xim3.com/ Get it directly from there for $150, Amazon charges double ($300)

#55 sandmanzero

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 09:01 AM

I'm gonna have to disagree with Cheapy on The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. The show is good at times, but overall I have trouble believing civilization can still be standing when there's a global apocalypse every other weekend. I liked how the different heroes argued with each other and how Iron Man grew to be the leader, but that was far overshadowed by the ridiculous overpowered villains. Overall, I really couldn't get into it.

As for the best cartoon ever? Cheapy, you need to watch Avatar: The Last Airbender with Tai. It's on Netflix!


I loved the cartoon. It combined some the elements of the comic books history and mashed them into 1 season. The show starts off slow but Graviton vs The Hulk was where the show got EPIC.
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#56 blinknot4

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 01:39 PM

I love the CAGcast - so relax - but it is getting a bit stale and has been giving me this feeling of "who cares."

It needs more "what have you been playing" talk. I don't care if its an 'old' game or whatever. I just like game talk. I feel as though you guys think you can only analyze/discuss new releases. Fuck that, talk up whatever games you want.

More of that... and less "I gave my kids a bath" talk.

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