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#331 Beatofficer

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:47 PM

I know your a Giants fan, but you didn't vote for this to happen did you?



I did not, I voted Wright, but I also only voted once and not 25 times a day haha.
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#332 pitfallharry219

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:06 AM

All those MLB "experts" at ESPN must feel stupid now after talking about how much better the AL roster was, and how the NL was going to get stomped. Justin Verlander has hopefully been taken down a peg on the cocky meter after how he got spanked in the 1st.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:22 AM

All those MLB "experts" at ESPN must feel stupid now after talking about how much better the AL roster was, and how the NL was going to get stomped. Justin Verlander has hopefully been taken down a peg on the cocky meter after how he got spanked in the 1st.


That's "why they play the game", haha. Ask the 2006 Yankees how much "on paper" is worth.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 04:54 AM

All those MLB "experts" at ESPN must feel stupid now after talking about how much better the AL roster was, and how the NL was going to get stomped. Justin Verlander has hopefully been taken down a peg on the cocky meter after how he got spanked in the 1st.


It's an all star game. predictions? lol

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#336 Jodou

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:58 PM

Looks like I didn't miss anything after it was 8, nothing. Sucks when a game is lopsided from the start.

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#337 Nate Nanjo

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:57 PM

I would have never guessed that the A's would sweep the Yankees in a 4 game series.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 12:03 AM

I would have never guessed that the A's would sweep the Yankees in a 4 game series.


A's gave the league the blueprint to beat them... Throw strikes.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 12:06 AM

I would have never guessed that the A's would sweep the Yankees in a 4 game series.


Then you haven't been paying attention to the A's this year.

#340 Nate Nanjo

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 02:01 AM

Then you haven't been paying attention to the A's this year.


Nope, my team is in their division and only pay attention when they play. We currently have the edge in the season series 7-6.

#341 Kerplunkuga

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 02:23 AM

We need some braves love in here cause im so sick of espns love affair with the nats.

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#342 Feeding the Abscess

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 03:48 AM

Josh Hamilton has been a disaster for months. I'd honestly be surprised if he ends the year with an average above .250 at this point. His chase rate is off the charts.

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#343 Beatofficer

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 04:10 AM

Josh Hamilton has been a disaster for months. I'd honestly be surprised if he ends the year with an average above .250 at this point. His chase rate is off the charts.



It's Baseball, you can be the best player in the world and still have a bad month. :(
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Posted 23 July 2012 - 06:54 AM

Yeah, it's pretty pathetic, and this is exactly the reason he won't get 20 million a year. At least not from the Rangers. He's got absolutely no plate discipline. He will not take pitches nor work counts 90% of the time, and when he finally gets a pitch to hit, he wiffs most of the time.

Take tonight for example, Frieri tosses him three fastballs in his wheelhouse, and he wiffs on every single one.
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#345 Jodou

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:04 PM

It's Baseball, you can be the best player in the world and still have a bad month year. :(

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:21 PM

Obviously this has been an extremely disappointing year for me. I still watch the Phillies every game, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't feel like someone was punching me in the gut every goddamn game. I'm almost hoping they gut this entire team, I don't think things can get any worse at this point. I've read that teams actually want Rollins and Victorino and I say TAKE THEM PLEASE!

#347 pitfallharry219

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:48 PM

Phillies fans are such pussies. :lol: One bad year after their recent run, and they want to break up the team. I guess they've forgotten about all the shitty years they had before the last half-decade or so.

Also, go Braves.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:49 PM

It's Baseball, you can be the best player in the world and still have a bad month. :(


There's having a bad month, then there's swinging at 50% of pitches out of the strike zone for two months. He's making Delmon Young and Jeff Francoeur look patient, and the guys closest to his 65.2% contact rate - Carlos Pena: 66.9%, Adam Dunn: 67.0% -, Pena has a 42.9% swing rate and a 26.9% chase rate, Dunn has a 39.6% swing rate and a 22.0% chase rate. Hamilton has a 59.2% swing rate and a 46% chase rate. His 20% swinging strike rate is worst in baseball by a mile - Danny Espinosa is second, at 14.7%, and Chris Davis is third, at 14.6%. Hamilton also has the lowest Zone% in baseball, so he should be putting the bat on his shoulder and taking walks.

Worse than having a bad month, he's going to flame out of baseball unless he makes an adjustment.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 09:50 PM

Phillies fans are such pussies. :lol: One bad year after their recent run, and they want to break up the team. I guess they've forgotten about all the shitty years they had before the last half-decade or so.

Also, go Braves.


I'm not sure they should have traded Delgado for Dempster. A 22 year old heavy GB pitcher with a stud SS in a pitcher's park is a pretty sweet combo.

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#350 DestroVega

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 10:13 PM

Ichiro to the Yankees. Stunner. Never saw that coming.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 10:35 PM

Ichiro to the Yankees. Stunner. Never saw that coming.


Me either. Haven't heard any rumors that the Yankees were interested in him. After it was announced Gardner was done for the year, I heard a lot of names being throw around, like Span, Upton, and Victorino, but no Ichiro.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 10:53 PM

Phillies fans are such pussies. :lol: One bad year after their recent run, and they want to break up the team. I guess they've forgotten about all the shitty years they had before the last half-decade or so.

Also, go Braves.


This isn't even a bad year, it's a horrible year. And I'm saying to get rid of the guys that have been sucking for the last 3 years, Rollins and Victorino. While I like Hamels and would like to see him stay, they need hitting and a not terrible bullpen so his money might be better spent elsewhere. We see what great starting pitching can give you, a winning season and a fucking aweful playoffs.

And Ichiro to the Yankees is extremely shocking, where the hell did that come from?

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:23 AM

This isn't even a bad year, it's a horrible year. And I'm saying to get rid of the guys that have been sucking for the last 3 years, Rollins and Victorino. While I like Hamels and would like to see him stay, they need hitting and a not terrible bullpen so his money might be better spent elsewhere. We see what great starting pitching can give you, a winning season and a fucking aweful playoffs.

And Ichiro to the Yankees is extremely shocking, where the hell did that come from?


Apparently he asked to be traded. Solid move by the Yankees.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:25 AM

Hamilton for Hamels... who says no first?

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#355 Beatofficer

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 12:48 AM

This isn't even a bad year, it's a horrible year. And I'm saying to get rid of the guys that have been sucking for the last 3 years, Rollins and Victorino. While I like Hamels and would like to see him stay, they need hitting and a not terrible bullpen so his money might be better spent elsewhere. We see what great starting pitching can give you, a winning season and a fucking aweful playoffs.

And Ichiro to the Yankees is extremely shocking, where the hell did that come from?


Victorino had his best career season last year (5.2 WAR), I've been hearing the Giants are looking into him, but for some reason, I really don't like the guy, I think it's his crazy eyes or his scuffles in the past. The Phillies need a lot of things now, it sucks that they're stuck with Howard until 2016 @ 25mil a year. Ton of payroll for a guy who has played like a $25mil player since 2009. They just have too many holes right now and a lot of aging players, I have a feeling they won't be World Series contenders for a few more years while they kind of rebuild.

Giants are also looking into Chris Perez , if they get him for the right price that will almost instantly fix our bullpen moving Casilla back to a setup role with Romo. I'd love for them to trade for Choo as well.

Awful trade proposal:
Indians - Choo and Perez to the Giants
Giants - Belt, Schierholtz, Tommy Joseph, Runzler ?
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 01:15 AM

Hamilton for Hamels... who says no first?


Give me Michael Olt instead. Hamilton isn't going to help us this season and we won't be signing him in the offseason.

Victorino had his best career season last year (5.2 WAR), I've been hearing the Giants are looking into him, but for some reason, I really don't like the guy, I think it's his crazy eyes or his scuffles in the past. The Phillies need a lot of things now, it sucks that they're stuck with Howard until 2016 @ 25mil a year. Ton of payroll for a guy who has played like a $25mil player since 2009. They just have too many holes right now and a lot of aging players, I have a feeling they won't be World Series contenders for a few more years while they kind of rebuild.


You're right, I didn't realize his WAR was so high last year. So he had a good year last year, a crap year two years ago and a crap year this year. I still don't want him.

And he is a huge asshole of a player, he's pretty dirty and tries to pull a lot of fast ones on the umps.

Howard's contract sucks, Papelblown is making WAY too much and Rollins is worth nowhere near what they're paying him, and that's after no other teams wanted him. I'm happy that Polanco is going to be gone after this season, he's pretty useless now. Believe me, I've loved the past 5 years but it's quite pathetic now.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:01 AM

The fucking MASH unit theme continues with Colby Lewis now done for the rest of the season. That one really hurts, as now the Rangers have to hit the trade market hard and get a starter because Colby was their ace in the postseason.

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#358 Kerplunkuga

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:20 PM

Is this Dempster deal going to happen? One source says done, Dempster says there isn't a deal at all.

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#359 Beatofficer

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 05:35 AM

Phillies about to resign Hamels for 6/137.5mil, I'm sure fans are happy about this, but it doesn't seem like a good thing that they have 60mil/yr for three pitchers for the next four years on top of Howards 20mil.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:44 PM

Phillies about to resign Hamels for 6/137.5mil, I'm sure fans are happy about this, but it doesn't seem like a good thing that they have 60mil/yr for three pitchers for the next four years on top of Howards 20mil.


Don't forget the $60 million to Jonathan Papelbon

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