Jump to content



Photo
- - - - -

2012 MLB Discussion


  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
1142 replies to this topic

#811 bigdaddybruce44

bigdaddybruce44

    Murders & Executions

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 14 October 2012 - 02:57 PM

Wow. For me, this turnaround from euphoria to devastation ranks up there with Game 7 of the 2001 World Series. The only difference is, there we literally lost the series (obviously). Here, it just feels like we already did.

Even if Jeter didn't get hurt, I would have said the Yankees have a really tough mountain to climb. Lost a game after such a dramatic comeback, and it wasn't even a game started by their ace. And you've got four guys in that lineup that look lost. Now, you have to add in the loss of their leader and one of the few guys actually hitting? Geez...

With all of the dramatics of last night, I think a poor managing job by Girardi gets swept under the rug. His use of the bullpen puzzled me in a lot of spots. I also didn't agree with pinch-running Gardner for Granderson. I realize Gardner did steal two bases, but to me, Dotel is so slow to the plate, Grandy probably could have taken second fairly easily, leaving Girardi more options as the game went on.

Not that there was really a good chance of him coming back anyway, but I would hope that last night's performance finally makes the Yankees realize that Swisher should not be on this team. He is honestly the worst overall postseason performer I have ever watched in my 20+ years as a Yankee fan. Besides the fact that his bat completely disappears in October, he's a below-average outfielder with horrible baseball instincts. Let the Mets or someone overpay him.

#812 ratzombie

ratzombie

    aka yunkie

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 14 October 2012 - 03:52 PM

Well I liked the 2001 World Series. :cry:

I don't like the Yankees but that sucks about Jeter, I like teams in the playoffs to be at full strength.

#813 bigdaddybruce44

bigdaddybruce44

    Murders & Executions

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 14 October 2012 - 04:12 PM

Well I liked the 2001 World Series. :cry:


HAHA, I should have predicated that "as a Yankee fan."

Anyway, the one really great storyline for the Yankees now is how A-Rod responds to this. Chavez has been awful, too, and with Jeter already out of the lineup, I don't see Joe sitting A-Rod at all. This is a grand opportunity for Rodriguez to even surpass his 2009 postseason, because he can really throw it in the face of all of us haters by dragging the Yankees to the World Series without Jeter.

#814 n8rockerasu

n8rockerasu

    Shhh...I'm Invisible

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 14 October 2012 - 04:31 PM

HAHA, I should have predicated that "as a Yankee fan."

Anyway, the one really great storyline for the Yankees now is how A-Rod responds to this. Chavez has been awful, too, and with Jeter already out of the lineup, I don't see Joe sitting A-Rod at all. This is a grand opportunity for Rodriguez to even surpass his 2009 postseason, because he can really throw it in the face of all of us haters by dragging the Yankees to the World Series without Jeter.


That WOULD be a great storyline if A-Rod were actually capable of rising to the occasion. It's more likely though that the team just mails in the rest of the series. I'm predicting a 5-1 loss tonight, followed by a unlikely 7-6 loss in Game 3 with the Yanks finally hitting Verlander, but CC having an off night (considering he was incredible in his first two starts, he's due for one). Then, Hughes just gets swallowed up by the moment in Game 4 for an 8-2 loss. With the team playing the way they are, I don't see them winning a game at this point.

#815 bigdaddybruce44

bigdaddybruce44

    Murders & Executions

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 14 October 2012 - 05:51 PM

The way they have already been playing, coupled with Jeter going down, yeah, I doubt the Yankees put up a lot of resistance. But it would make a great story if A-Rod woke up. I would say that, the one glimmer of hope is that guys like Cano, Swisher, and A-Rod have been sooooooooooooo awful that maybe, just maybe, one or two of them hit a little stride.

#816 n8rockerasu

n8rockerasu

    Shhh...I'm Invisible

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

Ya know, the most sickening thing about Jeter's injury is that if the Yankees had been able to hit a freaking ground ball with runners on 2nd and 3rd once in two tries, that 9th inning rally would have won the game and Jeter's injury would have never happened. THIS is why you don't swing for the 3 run homer all the time. You get runs when you can, and you outlast your opponent. I can't imagine that Girardi isn't constantly preaching this to them. The only explanation is that they're way too full of themselves (A-Rod, Swisher, Cano, Granderson) to listen. Just the thought that that 12th inning could have been completely avoided makes my stomach turn.

#817 AvengedBacklog

AvengedBacklog

    CAGiversary!

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:29 PM

There needs to be a salary cap like in other sports. It's pretty nuts that that's not there.

The only good thing about the Yankees having a ridiculous amount of money is that it makes for a team that's easy to hate. Go Tigers! LOL. :)


While I too would like to see a salary cap, the sheer reality of implementing one could be a nightmare. If they decide on a hard cap of say, $100 million, how are teams like the Red Sox and Yankees supposed to magically cut down their payroll when they have several players with large contracts? You'd have to give at least a 2 season grace period for those teams to get under the cap, and who wants to do that?

#818 Ugamer_X

Ugamer_X

    You can trust me

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 14 October 2012 - 10:07 PM

Cano. WTF?!

#819 n8rockerasu

n8rockerasu

    Shhh...I'm Invisible

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:22 PM

Yanks mailing it in as expected. Cano, Arod, Granderson, Swisher...1-12. Way to help Kuroda out fellas. I guess I gave them too much credit predicting a 5-1 score.

Yeah, you'd make one great teammate there Terrell Owens.


I meant to respond to this yesterday, but think about it from the pitcher's perspective. He's out there trying to contain a very good Tigers lineup, battling, working long at bats, only to have his effort completely wasted and disrespected by hitters who strike out on 3 pitches, pop the first pitch up, etc. The ones being "Terrell Owens's" are the hitters.

Like I said before, the Yankee pitching staff always gets ripped apart in the media, but personally, I think it's been fine since 2009. Sure, they have their ups and downs during the season, but that happens. Having half your lineup just completely forget how to make contact in the playoffs shouldn't happen.

#820 chuckie88

chuckie88

    Molder of Minds

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:30 PM

Well ARod just got on base, but only 4 hits for NY for the game.
Gotta' feel good if your a Tigers fan, Verlander in game 3 in the D.
-Trying to think of something creative.-

#821 n8rockerasu

n8rockerasu

    Shhh...I'm Invisible

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:39 PM

Well ARod just got on base, but only 4 hits for NY for the game.
Gotta' feel good if your a Tigers fan, Verlander in game 3 in the D.


Yup. No way the series isn't a 4-0 sweep. Absolutely no way. This Yankee lineup has no heart and hasn't had any in years. Girardi would be better served putting himself in the lineup at this point.

#822 MSUHitman

MSUHitman

    Checkmate Arcade Co-Host

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:33 AM

Ya know, the most sickening thing about Jeter's injury is that if the Yankees had been able to hit a freaking ground ball with runners on 2nd and 3rd once in two tries, that 9th inning rally would have won the game and Jeter's injury would have never happened. THIS is why you don't swing for the 3 run homer all the time. You get runs when you can, and you outlast your opponent. I can't imagine that Girardi isn't constantly preaching this to them. The only explanation is that they're way too full of themselves (A-Rod, Swisher, Cano, Granderson) to listen. Just the thought that that 12th inning could have been completely avoided makes my stomach turn.


See St. Louis Cardinals. :)

Listen to the Checkmate Arcade video game podcast! Also available on ITunes, Stitcher Radio, or YouTube.
42869.png


#823 MSUHitman

MSUHitman

    Checkmate Arcade Co-Host

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:33 AM

Alright, so far so good, gotta keep the pressure on and keep the Giants off base.

Edit: The Fuck did I just say about keeping the Giants off base Cards?!

Edited by MSUHitman, 15 October 2012 - 02:05 AM.

Listen to the Checkmate Arcade video game podcast! Also available on ITunes, Stitcher Radio, or YouTube.
42869.png


#824 n8rockerasu

n8rockerasu

    Shhh...I'm Invisible

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 15 October 2012 - 05:32 AM

Not that the Yankee bats have any business complaining about bad calls giving the Tigers more runs, but this...

[IMG]http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Ly5JrWmoca4iGVYYwSCnhQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusmlbexperts/tag1014.jpg[/IMG]

was called "safe". The ump openly admitted after the game that he blew the call. How sweet of him. :roll:

And that's after this one from Game 1 was called "out"...which happened with the bases loaded and 2 outs.

[IMG]http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Zn2USvBoYwoz183uTkY7qQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusmlbexperts/canosafe1013.jpg[/IMG]

When it rains, it fucking pours...

#825 MSUHitman

MSUHitman

    Checkmate Arcade Co-Host

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 15 October 2012 - 07:36 AM

Cards get the win but I'm worried they're going to blow the bullpen out. I don't want it to go more than 6 b/c if it goes 7 then it's Lohse in game 7.

Listen to the Checkmate Arcade video game podcast! Also available on ITunes, Stitcher Radio, or YouTube.
42869.png


#826 bigdaddybruce44

bigdaddybruce44

    Murders & Executions

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:33 PM

Not that the Yankee bats have any business complaining about bad calls giving the Tigers more runs, but this...


I was gonna post about the bad calls, but considering the way the Yankees have played, I didn't even feel it was worth it. I also think Ibanez was safe in the 1st inning of Game 1, but that was a real bang-bang play, so it's hard to complain. The two you posted, thought, were pretty bad.

#827 sendme

sendme

    CAGiversary!

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:41 PM

I didn't get to see the last game against Washington, but wasn't Loshe the pitcher that gave up 6 runs in the first 3 innings?
Posted Image

#828 Crunchewy

Crunchewy

Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:44 PM

Baseball should have replay challenges. Limited, but they should be there. But that call was no matter last night since Detroit shut them out. Plus I hate the Yankees. LOL.

Crunchewy.png


#829 bigdaddybruce44

bigdaddybruce44

    Murders & Executions

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 15 October 2012 - 04:18 PM

Well, the call still mattered, because it helped them get 2 runs. The approach the hitters and pitchers take would change a lot. Not saying the Yankees would've actually scored (probably not), but it did make the last couple of innings play out differently.

#830 MSUHitman

MSUHitman

    Checkmate Arcade Co-Host

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 16 October 2012 - 06:53 AM

I didn't get to see the last game against Washington, but wasn't Loshe the pitcher that gave up 6 runs in the first 3 innings?


No that was Wainwright. Lohse has been fairly lights out in postseason this year: pitched against ATL & Game 4 against Washington.

#831 KingBroly

KingBroly

    CAG Club Nintendo

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 16 October 2012 - 06:57 AM

Fuck all the baseballs. Fuck St. Louis.
Completed Games: 2011 | 2012
CAG Club Nintendo Thread
Posted Image

#832 AFRO insomniac

AFRO insomniac

    Pikmin 3 - Challenge Mode is DOPE

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 16 October 2012 - 10:57 AM

Would love to see the Giants in the World Series again.

Sucks that the A's couldn't make it this year after the run they had, but at least one Northern CA team has a chance this year.

Playing

Spoiler
2014 2013

#833 n8rockerasu

n8rockerasu

    Shhh...I'm Invisible

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 17 October 2012 - 03:15 AM

Ya know, I really love Joe Girardi. He's managing out of desperation, but it's really better than just sitting there all "ho hum" and just going with the status quo. A-Rod and Swisher haven't done shit. They should be benched. And he even took my advice and held off CC, knowing that a loss to Verlander is likely...and it would be DEVASTATING to lose to him in a game that CC pitched in.

But with CC going in game 4, that's about as comfortable as you can be down 3-0. If they can somehow win that game (which is a crazy thought considering they'd have to score runs), then you've got Pettitte again in Game 5 (who pitched well in Game 1...just got ZERO help). If you can win that game, by that point, your bats should be coming around. It's probably a 1,000 to 1 longshot, but I can see the method to the madness. And when the left side of your infield is now Eric Chavez and Eduardo Nunez, what the hell are you supposed to do? lol

EDIT - Annnnd...just like that, Eduardo Nunez is outperforming A-Rod in the playoffs, haha. Wow.

#834 renique46

renique46

    CAGiversary!

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 17 October 2012 - 03:43 AM

How pathetic that Nunez of all people had to bail the team out from laying another goose egg. And even then Verlander could have played a little with his pitches since he was ahead of the count, that home run might not have happened. At this rate CC should be be the DH, all this money going around to all these players and they keep relying on Ibanez to win them games wtf.

#835 Beatofficer

Beatofficer

    GOT HEEEEEM!

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 17 October 2012 - 03:46 AM

Time for the Yankees to buy some new players it seems and send the old ones off to the farm.
!San Francisco Giants 2010 & 2012 World Series Champions!

Posted Image

#836 Icegaryen

Icegaryen

    Stuart and the Ave

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:38 PM

Time for the Yankees to buy some new players it seems and send the old ones off to the farm.


Time to stop playing MLB 2K12.

#837 chuckie88

chuckie88

    Molder of Minds

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 17 October 2012 - 03:39 PM

...But with CC going in game 4, that's about as comfortable as you can be down 3-0...

I agree with this, Detroit fans such as myself still aren't home free quite yet.
-Trying to think of something creative.-

#838 kill3r7

kill3r7

    MiNd ThE GaP

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 17 October 2012 - 04:22 PM

I agree with this, Detroit fans such as myself still aren't home free quite yet.


Had the offense showed any signs of life last night I would buy it, but this series will be over in 5.

#839 chuckie88

chuckie88

    Molder of Minds

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 17 October 2012 - 05:33 PM

Had the offense showed any signs of life last night I would buy it, but this series will be over in 5.

Let's hope so! (I would also accept four.;))
-Trying to think of something creative.-

#840 n8rockerasu

n8rockerasu

    Shhh...I'm Invisible

  • CAGiversary!

Posted 17 October 2012 - 05:40 PM

Well, for Girardi, I think it's just the idea of trying to buy some time and HOPING that the bats just wake up somehow. It's incredibly daunting that CC has to basically win the game single handedly though (like others said, might as well let him hit too).

I just hope no "Fire Joe Girardi!" nonsense pops up after tha Yankees are eliminated. Sure, every move he's made hasn't been perfect. But he's dealing with half a lineup that basically refuses to play the game the right way. He can yell at them until he's blue in the face, but he can't make them have good at bats.

They can fire Kevin Long if they want...but I don't see the point in that either. These are professional hitters. They've been doing it all season. They know what they need to do. They didn't just forget how to play all of a sudden. They're trying to do too much. They need a therapist more than they need a hitting coach.