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CAGcast #272: Sony Sympathy


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#1 CheapyD

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:21 AM

Wombat weighs in on Project Wombat (ME3 multiplayer), Shipwreck talks Alan Wake: American Nightmare & Syndicate, and CheapyD trys to be a kinder, gentler Internet space pimp.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:45 AM

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:54 AM

Interesting new sponsor.

You were in good form tonight Wombat. I lost it a couple of the things you said, not to mention I almost cried laughing at the mental image of you losing a bar of soap in your ass. The phrase "Lick my chode" has now been added to my vocabulary. I love you sometimes.

Shipwreck, can we please get a version of your highlight reel that only features highlights of you? I understand not wanting to put a bunch of 7th grade girls on the internet but I'd like to see you flip shit.

Cheapy- loved the outro song.

As far as the Vita discussion goes I feel you three have hit the point where shitting on it anymore would be beating a dead horse. I know it just came out this week in America and that warrants discussion; I'm not saying you shouldn't have mentioned it. But since Cheapy has had his for over a month and we've heard about how he doesn't really care for it I think we've hit the saturation point where if it keeps getting put down it's going to get annoying.

That being said I enjoyed the show. Great one as usual guys.

Edited by Lightning War, 23 February 2012 - 06:04 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 06:06 AM

Just downloaded! Gonna listen Friday evening during my commute from Columbus to Cleveland.

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#5 SeanAmI

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 06:10 AM

Can someone Pm me the spoiler Wombat is talking about in the Mass Effect 3 demo?
Played the demo and I don't know what he's talking about.

#6 bobthecat23

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 06:12 AM

cagcast drinking game anyone?

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 06:54 AM

Can someone Pm me the spoiler Wombat is talking about in the Mass Effect 3 demo?
Played the demo and I don't know what he's talking about.


I just started listening to this week's episode and was hoping he would clear that up, no dice. Wombat please just post it in spoiler tags for those of us who are terribly confused.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:58 AM

cagcast drinking game anyone?

I would have died of alcohol poisoning long ago.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 08:16 AM

D: Just realized how silly my question was in hindsight. But I guess what I meant to try to say was does it seem like the appeal of the Vita might be heldback to a significant point due to the exclusion of features? Talking to a Sony rep today (who may or may not know anything) has stated that they weren't really sure if Netflix, Twitter or Facebook would have been ready right at launch date.

These aren't exactly important apps for the Vita but I did find myself to be a little bit discouraged by the fact that I couldn't import any of my PSone games to my Vita because it simply wasn't "ready." I don't know of any of the technical aspects to it but somehow I find this a little hard to believe that it wouldn't be ready, especially since the power is evidently there.

The Vita is a gaming system first and foremost but seeing as I no longer have access to my UMDs (I traded off my PSP to get this and I'm sure many others have), I find myself actually missing my PSP just for features like Skype and being able to play PSone games. Could very well be enough to stop a guy from trading in their old PSP for a Vita and thus a potential sale would be lost.

I mean nevermind the UMD thing.

... And nevermind that my Smartphone can do Skype.

... Yeah, that was a silly question to ask. D:
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#10 neversawthestars

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 08:48 AM

Hey folks, great episode as always. I do have to say the vita bashing from cheapy is getting a bit stale. I used to love the passive aggressive snipes at Sony from the crew (wombat not as much) as it reflected my own feelings against them and their IP's. I love that you prefer playing xbox and feel its a more relevant gaming system but the pods sometimes feels like listening to whats akin to a punditry roundtable (wombat excluded). Anywho I love love love the show and find your conversations and opinions amusing if not sometimes negatively repetitive. Can't wait to hear what u think of mass effect 3 and ssx!

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 08:48 AM

Why is bio ware making this DLC free thing? I will cancel my regular edition preorder and skip the game if nothing changes in 3-5 days.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:32 AM

Can't wait to hear more Sony and Nintendo bashing!

#13 Chase

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:35 AM

Cheapy and Shipwreck, you shouldn't feel bad about having an opinion that differs from the video game press. Wombat is pretty spot-on about most of the video game press being nothing more than a bunch of glad-handed pseudo-journalists. Be honest. Be yourself. That's why the CAGcast is my favorite video game podcast. Pull no punches and kick things in the dick.

I'll have to check out this StackSoap. I'm pretty picky about the soap I use—but it sounds like an excellent gift and idea.

#14 lethalgorman

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:47 AM

Rodger that on the vita bashing. We get it, you wish xbox made a dedicated gaming handheld. Sheeeeesh

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:55 AM

Great show

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:57 AM

Cag in training ? That's an insult ! I should plug in my iPod
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:22 AM

Please post your music video shipwreck ,
And use the all I do is won song and kick the
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It by an exposion , thanks .

#18 neversawthestars

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:31 AM

@Chase " Wombat is pretty spot-on about most of the video game press being nothing more than a bunch of glad-handed pseudo-journalists. " whoa really? That's a little paranoid and sweeping generalization of the industry. I also agree about the crew having and expressing their opinions. It's why I listen! I just think the format has gotten stuck in this weird repetitive format of pro Apple talk, anti vita talk, anti Sony IP (infamous fob excluded) talk. I do love the shit pants stories and hearing about ships great season tho more of that and leave the trash talking for lesser shows like hip hop gamer ect.

#19 Chase

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:30 PM

@Chase " Wombat is pretty spot-on about most of the video game press being nothing more than a bunch of glad-handed pseudo-journalists. " whoa really? That's a little paranoid and sweeping generalization of the industry. I also agree about the crew having and expressing their opinions. It's why I listen! I just think the format has gotten stuck in this weird repetitive format of pro Apple talk, anti vita talk, anti Sony IP (infamous fob excluded) talk. I do love the shit pants stories and hearing about ships great season tho more of that and leave the trash talking for lesser shows like hip hop gamer ect.



I have only used my Journalism degree as a résumé point since I earned that stripe years ago. But, I remember stuff. ;)

Journalists get raw and gritty, and investigate the news—even at their career's expense. Reporters report what journalists find and uncover. What most video game writers do is report. Some websites, like IGN, depend on the kindess of publishers and developers, and would never risk losing credentials for the sake of breaking a news story. And really, most of the time, the video game industry has nothing to uncover. So yeah, most writers for video game websites are reporters—and not journalists.

Just an example: I live in Las Vegas. UFC's base of operations and a home of MMA. I go out, talk to people/fighters, and find stories. I later post them online. That's journalism. Someone who takes my stories and posts it on their website: that's reporting. And that's what most video game websites do.

One reason why I like Cheapy, Shipwreck, and Wombat is because they're independent. They don't suckle the teet of video game companies to sustain their infrastructure. They don't fear losing a sponsor to plaster on their homepage—and click-through ad—as a result of speaking their minds. You have to respect them for that. :)

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:01 PM

The discussion about the limited stock of Vitas at the big box retailers were really interesting. I haven't heard any other podcasts talk about this at all.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:14 PM

Cheapy and Shipwreck, you shouldn't feel bad about having an opinion that differs from the video game press.


Being ignorant about the PC, unenthusiastic about Sony, and massive fans of the 360 and iOS puts them squarely in line with most of the American videogame press.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:32 PM

Being ignorant about the PC, unenthusiastic about Sony, and massive fans of the 360 and iOS puts them squarely in line with most of the American videogame press.


I don't mean to fuel any fires, but I agree.

And also, no one has to "feel bad" or should have to mention that they feel bad about Sony or their position in the market or the PS-Vita. It's just not for you, that's all. When you're looking for negative comments or reviews you'll go where you can find them. When you're positive about it you'll go where it's being recognized. Trolls are everywhere. Regardless, decent discussion.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:53 PM

Once upon a time, Joystiq had an awesome podcast called X3F. Then it died and they replaced it with some boring NPR show.

Once upon a time, Gamesradar had an awesome podcast called Talkradar. Then it died for mysterious reasons.

Now, the CAGcast is all I have left =/

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 02:59 PM

I don't mind Vita bashing, in some ways Sony deserves it with lack of commerciallism. Unfortunatly, Shipwreck and Wombat doesn't have enough knowledge of Vita to put valuable input in(demo units in stores are always crappy), I personally feel there should be a purchase before offering true comments. Mod Nation is bad because no true online and no commentators for the story mode which loses everything it had because without that comedy the game just isn't good. Hot Shots Golf is highly addictive. Walmart historically is bad with launches, you need to goto Best Buy/Gamestops. Uncharted I don't get it, I really love the look of it but the controls are beyond frustrating but you get used to it. Fifa is really, really good. Using the back touch screen. Vita's screen and access to play is easy to understand and play. I'm buying 2 more Vita's next week for my kids. If you buy a Vita, buy screen protectors. In less then 2 weeks I am buying MLB 12 the Show on 2 consoles PS3 and Vita. The idea of spending $100 to play whereever, whenever, I am thrilled with. I always have to goto parties and stuff. Think about this. You now can use the missing time with other people who are bored watching tv and you can still get your game on away from home. This happens a lot to me and I am thrilled to continue playing whenever and can even playing during my lunch break at work. I have other demos and such that I grabbed from the store and they work well. In terms of other people having these games. With the Near service I can see that there are 36 people within a 3 mile radius of my house who have played Hot Shots Golf. There are 41 people with in a 3 mile radius playing Modnation Racers. Wombat says he hasn't been home, he could be playing Vita. :-)

Playstation is a Brand. The name for PSP is Playstation Portable, the new Console is PS Vita which is Playstation Vita.

Only thing missing is Skype, Twitter and Facebook are there.

iPhone games = Wii games Basically a lot of crap on both sides. What are your thoughts on Nintendo's announcement yesterday?
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 03:21 PM

Speaking to a lot of people including press being generally positive on the Vita. It feels like while there are definitite issues it's an enjoyable system. This is how I feel anyway, I agree with many of your problems but I'm still enjoying my Vita a lot.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 04:26 PM

Just pledged $10 to Stack Soap. Just this week I tossed out a soap sliver. This is actually a pretty good idea.

I ended up getting a Vita yesterday and am enjoying it. I’m more an Xbox fanboy than PS. I really wish MS would come out with a sweet handheld like the Vita.

I do agree with the talk of all the games just being dumbed down versions of PS3 games. Why play Uncharted on Vita, when there are 3 versions already on PS3. Of course, I ended up buying Uncharted because there wasn’t much else to pick up.

The talk of a $1 iOS game being $40 on the Vita is ridiculous. This is why these console handhelds will fail. It would be one thing if they charged $10-15, but $40?!?!

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 04:58 PM

FYI there is a demo for Asura's Wrath (a couple of levels I believe). The general consensus of the game is that it's good, but too short. Definitely waiting until it drops to $40 or less.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:15 PM

Why is bio ware making this DLC free thing? I will cancel my regular edition preorder and skip the game if nothing changes in 3-5 days.


just curious..

why did you think the standard edition was getting content (for free) that was listed as a bonus for buying the CE?

that's a strange assumption to me and would be ridiculously unfair to those who purchased the CE

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:21 PM

I totally agree with Wombat about games on the iPhone. I also recently got an iPhone and spent a while browsing the store, and didn't see anything worth spending my time on let alone paying money for.

If I have time to kill and just my iPhone for entertainment, I'd much rather spend that time browsing the web or using apps, than playing games that are inferior to games on a real handheld which are inferior to games on console and which (in many cases) are inferior to games on a decent PC.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:30 PM

I totally agree with Wombat about games on the iPhone. I also recently got an iPhone and spent a while browsing the store, and didn't see anything worth spending my time on let alone paying money for.

If I have time to kill and just my iPhone for entertainment, I'd much rather spend that time browsing the web or using apps, than playing games that are inferior to games on a real handheld which are inferior to games on console and which (in many cases) are inferior to games on a decent PC.


i second(third?) this.

im on android but the point is the same. i own so many games and the only one i ever play is chu chu rocket, and that's only because it takes almost no time to launch and start playing, so i can actually play for most of the 2 minutes while i wait for the microwave to finish cooking my lunch.

otherwise give me a ds/3ds any day and im good for portable games

edit: totally forgot that if i count my tablet, i have been spending an ungodly amount of time playing The Pinball Arcade lately. so there's that. but once that comes out for 3ds and 360 I'll probably play on one of those.

Edited by smoger, 23 February 2012 - 05:42 PM.