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CAGcast #274: A Journey Worth Taking?


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#91 Macstorm

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 07:47 PM

I was going to post a comment here, but then when I hear that in order to win Wombat would have to "tap" me, so I got scared. But here I am posting anyways, so I guess I'm doubly screwed...hopefully not literally.

#92 CharlieBrown

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 07:56 PM

Great show guys. I don't really listen to many podcasts, and I've really only been listening to this one for about four months, but I've gotta' say I like the way you guys got the show set up. The personalities are all there as well. Just like shipwreck had said before, it kinda' does play out like an icarly episode. No complaints here. One thing that I've noticed is at times you guys bring up certain games, but due to the lack of interest, they are simply put aside (i.e. Street Fighter X Tekken, Asura's Wrath). At times, those are games that I and probably others would have loved to hear about, be it negative or positive comments, or just general info. Maybe you guys can just touch on those games a bit before moving on? Thanks for the great show and keep up the good work.

#93 CozmoKhan

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 08:09 PM

Great show even without Wombat. Though, the show is better with him.

On the subject of Journey being worthy of $15 for a short game, there are plenty of games out there that people have spent more on and enjoyed less. For me, it's not about how much time you get to play a game, but how much satisfaction you get out of it. Is there a sense of accomplishment? Was it fun for the time spent? If so, then the money is well worth it. But, alas, I'll never know about Journey as I no longer have a PS3.

On the subject of the Vita, I just don't like it. Maybe it's because the demo units are tethered, but I don't find it comfortable to hold because of the back touch pad and the divots. I also don't think it was truly optimized for play-on-the-go. I stood in a Target waiting about 5 minutes for one track of Wipeout to load. The screen looks nice, and the thumbsticks are better than the circle pads. But, I would only ever own a Vita if I didn't have to pay for it. And, then, I 'd probably sell it to get an iPad 3.

Keep up the great work on the CAGcast. Look forward to the longer audioboos from E3.

#94 C.A. Fuzzy Nutz

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 08:35 PM

was a little strange not hearing Wambat on the Cagcast...oh well, guess he needed a break too....
As for the giveaways, you should do the random winner thing...works out the best way :)

#95 clay_bones

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 08:50 PM

Here is some constructive critism I wanted to post last week. If you guys find that you have been talking about a game for more than a couple minutes, it would be very helpful if you tried to mention the title of the game once again. Lots of times it is obvious what you are talking about but sometimes I miss someone saying what game they played recently and I am lost for 5 minutes untill you move on. It is a minor thing but it is the only thing I would feel comfortable criticizing, the show is great. Long live CAGCast.

Also ME3 kicks ass.

#96 Sinfulfate

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 09:38 PM

Great Show. I dont really have any good comments for the show but I'd love to win fighting by Capcon.

#97 sgt_toasty

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 10:06 PM

As always the Cagcast delivered this week, although I feel there's a little "edge" that Wombat provides that was obviously lacking. Can't wait to have him back next week and I certainly wouldn't mind SFxT! Keep up the awesome work!

Also, Shipwreck saying bread's done was pretty classic :)

#98 CapAmerica

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 10:59 PM

Good show guys, thou it was missing that extra little spice that is Wombat.
The is $15 worth it question is a hard one to answer, On the Joystiq Show they said something that really stuck with me, We pay $15 for a movie so why not a short game. If it gives us at least a couple hours of entertainment its at least worth the price of a movie.

Wouldn't mind getting that copy of Street Fighter X Tekken (Or as Cheapy's Mom calls it "Fighting by Capcon"), just rented it from Redbox and I enjoyed it a lot even thou I really suck at Capcom fighters.
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#99 Bainen

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 02:26 AM

Here is some constructive critism I wanted to post last week. If you guys find that you have been talking about a game for more than a couple minutes, it would be very helpful if you tried to mention the title of the game once again.


Agreed. It's not just you guys, even other podcasts I listen to tend to do the same - the game is mentioned at the start, then referred to as 'it' for the rest of the discussion. Sometimes I'm able to clue on on what game 'it' is, other times I have to rewind the podcast a few minutes. If I'm driving, I sometimes still miss the name on the second attempt.

#100 Duke.Togo

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:06 AM

I'm glad that Cheapy mentioned the ME3 problem. I've got a custom character that I've used through both games, so I want that to work. Glad I held off from a launch purchase.

#101 Decepticreep

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:20 AM

Great show guys. I laughed at the end because it reminded me of Wombot. I just wanted to share something unrelated, if I could. My sister-in-law, Heather Andrews, who was 33, passed away last month due to complications to brain surgery. She had a disease known as Chiari. She was one of a handful certified female solar electricans in the United States. As trubute to my sister-in-law, I got a tattoo of Supergirl, a solar-power super heroine. I figured Wombat would get a kick out of that. (PS, this isn't for the contest. I'd hate to win something based on my sister's death. I just wanted to share.)

#102 aerotive

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:28 AM

Great show guys. I laughed at the end because it reminded me of Wombot. I just wanted to share something unrelated, if I could. My sister-in-law, Heather Andrews, who was 33, passed away last month due to complications to brain surgery. She had a disease known as Chiari. She was one of a handful certified female solar electricans in the United States. As trubute to my sister-in-law, I got a tattoo of Supergirl, a solar-power super heroine. I figured Wombat would get a kick out of that. (PS, this isn't for the contest. I'd hate to win something based on my sister's death. I just wanted to share.)


Damn way too young, and sorry for your loss...great way to remember her though.

#103 Kazaganthi

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 04:34 AM

Glad to see a show this week, thank you! Might I suggest Wombat+Shipwreck do a show while Cheapy has to watch his son on weird Japanese holidays, then send him the audio to edit/post at his leisure? They did 1 or 2 CAG Foreplay together and I thought it worked fine.

The 3 of you should really have a more in-depth discussion on (some, not all) DLC, paid avatar shirts/hats, etc, and how it's lame. The topic may sound like it's beaten to death, but some of us still don't want to just roll over and accept it. It's become the "norm" and I don't like it. Cheapy was upset about his Season Pass for good reason, but it's happening to a lot of games now. What if Chobot Robot was Day 1 paid DLC that was on the disc? It's not too far off considering what has happened lately.

As for the clip at the end of the show Cheapy added on, thanks for that reminder. That is one large reason the Wii and DS are the way they are for online & friend codes, and will be interesting how the WiiU will handle it. Nintendo wants to shield their customers, because well angry moms are scarey.

If anyone else doesn't remember, or didn't listen to the podcast episodes (back in 2009?). Microsoft actually got in contact with Wombat to work the situation out. In fact I think it was the same person who just recently got fired in their banning division if I'm remembering right, oh the irony. Or did Cheapy plan that on purpose?


#104 DragoonKnight

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 05:13 AM

Great show this week. I was a bit surprised when CheapyD didn't just remake his character model. If you're really excited about a game how do you let something that minor stop you? Importing a character from ME2 isn't even perfect and will probably require some tweaks anyway.

It was a little weird not having Wombat on the show, but it was a bit more enjoyable than usual. I find that he likes to add contentious opinions just for the sake of discussion and that can get a bit annoying. The humor that he brings to the show is what I really enjoy. I'm glad you included that clip about Wombat being on the Gamer Spotlight. It brought back good memories hearing that kid tell Wombat "You suck at gameeeessss. You suck at gameeeessss."

P.S. I'd be happy to win SFxT because I already own ME3.

#105 apathylad

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 05:44 AM

It's amazing that both Mass Effect 3 and Street Fighter x Tekken have serious bugs at launch. I refuse to play Mass Effect 3 until I am able to import my character, and there is Street Fighter x Tekken with it's terrible online.

Anyway, great show. Wombat's Gamer Spotlight experience was one of my favorite moments of the CAGcast. It really shows just how awful people can be on the internet. I'm glad Wombat was able to record the audio messages he got and put them on the show.

#106 ChicoChanqlueta

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 06:45 AM

When I first played the Mass Effect 3 demo I just created my guy and wrote down the code so I could easily go to the game and fix anything I saw with my ME2 Shepard. I still cant get the cheekbones right.

And Mass Effect 3's ending really soured me on the whole series. I wont spoil anything but just leave expectations low for the end. I loved all of Mass Effect 3 until that ending. So just be prepared guys.

Great CAgcast as usual though!
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#107 CDHarris

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 12:09 PM

And Mass Effect 3's ending really soured me on the whole series. I wont spoil anything but just leave expectations low for the end. I loved all of Mass Effect 3 until that ending. So just be prepared guys.


Agreed. It retroactively made my decisions feel meaningless and completely sapped all of my desire to go through the game again with my alternate Shepards, despite the first 99.99% of the game being a great experience. It's why I'm here now instead of playing more Mass Effect 3. "Leave expectations low for the end" is a bit of an understatement, in my opinion.

If it wasn't so depressing, it would be funny how such a great game falls flat on its face just minutes before crossing the finish line. The ending seems to be almost unanimously hated on the BioWare forums. There is already a 639 page (at the time of this post) thread of complaints about it full of people wanting BioWare to give it a better (in quality, if not necessarily in outcome) ending in a patch or DLC... with many even offering to pay for an alternate ending DLC if necessary.

The worst part, in my opinion, is that there was a touching moment between two characters right before the ridiculous twist that they could have used as a nice stopping point. That just makes how close they came even more disheartening. If they had just cut it off right there and maybe tacked on an epilogue montage of how your actions influenced the galaxy, the ending would have been so much better (though still not perfect).

#108 Emiroo

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 08:51 PM

Popped my CAGcast cherry with this episode. Never tuned in before, but listened to this one from beginning to end. Felt just like I was B.S.ing with close gamer friends the whole time. You've now got another CAGcast subscriber! Cheapy's Jewish joke was definitely the highlight.

A pro bono copy of ME3 would be the classy way to complete your taking my CAGcast virginity.
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#109 usickenme

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 10:45 PM

Shuddup about the ending!

#110 Perfidious Sinn

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 04:04 AM

Oh geez, Mass Effect 3 spoilers are everywhere!

I probably won't play the game for at least a year so I'm treading very lightly around the internet. Thanks for not spoiling stuff on the podcast though, guys.

Guess I'm going back into my sensory deprivation tank.
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#111 shadowofthetoaster

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 04:24 AM

Good chat guys!
Ah, my friend. You've brought the Big Macs, and the fries.
The donuts, my friend. Did you bring the donuts?
Donuts. Give me the donuts.
Where are the donuts? You FOOL!

#112 just-joe

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 06:08 AM

Great show as always, but like everyone else, it's just not the same with my fellow left handed buddy known as Wombat. It does sound like Cheapy was a bit more lively in this episode, perhaps since Wombat wasn't around he felt that he needed to crank up the humor.

If this get's attention, I'd love a copy of "fighting" by Capcom.

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#113 coolz481

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 01:53 PM

Wow - I didn't think you guys would ever do a show without Wombat. His humorous asides were missed, but I appreciate that Cheapy and Shipwreck spent some time talking about Vita games. I'm sort of in Cheapy's situation where I am hardly ever on the road, so I don't need a portable system, but I'm still interested since JRPGs and Japanese-developed action/adventure games are my favorite genres. I picked up my $5 cheapass copy of Mass Effect 2 for PS3 at Best Buy, so I'd love a free Mass Effect 3 to go with it.
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#114 Parathod

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 04:25 PM

Perhaps I'm the only one to notice this, but it seems that without Wombat the show becomes more gaming oriented with less diversions. Cheapy and Ship were commenting on games and covering the latest news at a quicker and more succinct pace than probably any other gaming podcast I've listened to over the years. It's no secret that Shipwreck is the most dedicated gamer of the group and you have to wonder if he held more influence in Wombat's absence. It seems that maybe Wombat is the best at looking at the gaming industry as a whole, but might not be as into playing them as Shipwreck and Cheapy D. Anyway, love the podcast in general and was glad that you guys still put out a show. I'd rather listen to a show with one guy out than go a week without it.

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#115 cabrook

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 05:20 PM

Its always better to have a CAGcast than to not have one; however, this episode felt a little dry without Wombat's humor. Also, I stick by my criticism from last week: The CAGcast carries the CAG name but rarely discusses video game and system deals. Cheapy used to highlight a few deals each show but I feel he has gotten away from that. Does anyone else miss the deals highlights we used to get in the show? Overall though the video game talk was good. Wombat, I hope you had fun in Florida and look forward to your return to the CAGcast.

#116 billyok

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 07:31 PM

I hate the whole discussion of game length versus value. No other entertainment medium does this crap. If a concert ticket costs $50 and it's three hours long, is it a bad value if you enjoyed those three hours? Would Journey somehow be better if it was bloated and six hours long?

I played Journey once and I'll play it several more times over the next few years. (Not because I need some stupid collectible to consider a game replayable, but because it's fun, go figure!) It was worth $15 for the first trip alone, because it was unlike anything I've ever done in a game. The subsequent trips will be a bonus.

#117 uta_cynic

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:21 PM

Great show, but I have to say I missed the Wombat factor. The extra bit about his experience was welcome, however disheartening. Could have been worse, I suppose. You guys could have released it as DLC for the podcast.

I have poked the beast, and it has flinched.


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#118 katzd2007

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:01 AM

I wanted to put in a vote from the last podcast for doing a live show in L.A. Like Wombat said only true listeners would show up as well!
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#119 e3vL

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:21 AM

Show suggestion: Alternate between 3 hosts having 2 hosts per episode (possibly 2 shows per week); after each full rotation do a threesome. Seems like with 3 hosts there's always a third wheel during each topic.

Hope I win the giveaway ;)

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#120 hereon

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:26 AM

Loved the show although it was strange to hear conversations between Ship and Cheapy with good old Wombat breaking the tension with his big personality :D