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#31 sleeping_lights_on

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:27 PM

I wished they tracked the average, like indieroyale, for those looking to get swords.

#32 Mooby

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:39 PM

I wished they tracked the average, like indieroyale, for those looking to get swords.


I know it's not what you're looking for but from what I recall the average probably won't drop very much. Especially now with the $1 floor for Steam keys. It might settle down to $5 since the early pledges are usually the big donors (thus raising the average) but no lower than that.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:43 PM

Somebody should mention to the to Humble Guys then. They did test these games beforehand and were really concerned about making sure they worked okay across a range of devices.

The Kindle Fire is the top selling Android tablet to date so I think they really need to address that and people need to report it to them to let them know.


Sent an email off to their support email. Will let you guys know if i get a response.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:47 PM

Just to be clear, Avadon will not run at all on the Kindle Fire or it's just listed as incompatible? If people have tried it and it doesn't work I'd like to add the info to the OP because I know a lot of CAGs have them.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:51 PM

Somebody should mention to the to Humble Guys then. They did test these games beforehand and were really concerned about making sure they worked okay across a range of devices.

The Kindle Fire is the top selling Android tablet to date so I think they really need to address that and people need to report it to them to let them know.


Well that's really more of an Amazon issue since they try to keep the Fire locked to the Amazon App Store as the only source of apps.

Of course, most apps can be "side-loaded" onto the device but I don't have a Fire so I'm not sure how easy/difficult a process that is or whether most games scale appropriately.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:55 PM

I know it's not what you're looking for but from what I recall the average probably won't drop very much. Especially now with the $1 floor for Steam keys. It might settle down to $5 since the early pledges are usually the big donors (thus raising the average) but no lower than that.


Just following up on this - don't count on the average falling below $5. Last Android bundle it only went up. First day you could get it in the $5 range but after that it was up to 7 or so. Not exactly breaking the bank but if you're trying to get this as cheap as possible, you might not want to wait.

#37 motoki

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:03 PM

Well that's really more of an Amazon issue since they try to keep the Fire locked to the Amazon App Store as the only source of apps.

Of course, most apps can be "side-loaded" onto the device but I don't have a Fire so I'm not sure how easy/difficult a process that is or whether most games scale appropriately.



No it's nothing to do with Amazon because ALL Humble Bundle Android apps are sideloaded period. They even have their own app for updates because it doesn't go through either Amazon's OR Google's markets. All other Humble apps appear to work just fine on the Fire.

I believe the problem may be the developer using the Google standard of OS 3.0 (or higher) = Tablet and below 3.0 = phone. That is problematic because in real world practice there are a number of Android tablets that use 2.* including some of the best selling ones like the Fire and there are now phones using 4.0 like the Galaxy Nexus and a bunch more set to release this year.

#38 sleeping_lights_on

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:14 PM

I know it's not what you're looking for but from what I recall the average probably won't drop very much. Especially now with the $1 floor for Steam keys. It might settle down to $5 since the early pledges are usually the big donors (thus raising the average) but no lower than that.


Good to know. I threw in $6 after swords, even though I already have avadon and cogs. Oh well! who knows! what great things they will add. That's always have the fun.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:19 PM

I can confirm the Galaxy Nexus can run Avadon. It yells about my resolution but I was able to enter the menus and start a new game. Looks like it's based somewhat on Android version.

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#40 motoki

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:19 PM

On the issue of Avadon and the Kindle Fire (and other tablets running Android 2.*) I posed the question directly to the developer Jeff Vogel so we'll see what he says.

http://jeff-vogel.bl...ble-bundle.html

*Edit: Okay Jeff says the minimum resolution needs to be 1024 x 600 which is exactly the Fire's resolution so it should work.

Can someone with a Fire try downloading the apk directly from their Humble url. Don't use the Humble app, just use the web link in the email Humble sent confirming your purchase, download the Avadon apk directly, install and see what happens (it may take a minute to load on a black screen).

I wonder if maybe it is Humble's app that is the issue. Unfortunately I don't have a Fire to test.

Edited by Motoki, 19 March 2012 - 09:52 PM.


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:02 PM

I have a Kindle Fire and Avadon does indeed install and work fine. (so far no force closes or anything odd/buggy)

But my Kindle Fire is rooted with CM7 and a custom build.prop so I'm not sure how helpful that is to stock users...but Avadon does work.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:11 PM

Somebody should mention to the to Humble Guys then. They did test these games beforehand and were really concerned about making sure they worked okay across a range of devices.

The Kindle Fire is the top selling Android tablet to date so I think they really need to address that and people need to report it to them to let them know.

Well to be fair the Kindle Fire is not considered an Android tablet or counted among Android devices even though it uses a heavily modified version of android as a base.
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:14 PM

I wished they tracked the average, like indieroyale, for those looking to get swords.


In the middle of the page, there is a breakdown of stats, that shows average per OS (linux, mac, windows), and an overall average; is this what you mean? It currently says $6.05, so I just threw in $7, to be safe, and because that's less than a dollar over. I got Swords, so I assume this is the average to beat.
Also why is it that when i click the "Diablo" picture, i get sent to pc games without the Diablo and even when i searched for Diablo, i get no results.
Oh boy...You said there was going to be Diablo op. Where is my Diablo? I dont see Diablo. You promised me Diablo.

#44 motoki

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:26 PM

I have a Kindle Fire and Avadon does indeed install and work fine. (so far no force closes or anything odd/buggy)

But my Kindle Fire is rooted with CM7 and a custom build.prop so I'm not sure how helpful that is to stock users...but Avadon does work.



Okay that is good to know. I let the Humble guys know their app itself might not be detecting it properly as a tablet and they said they would look into it but that the Fire is sort of an odd beast, heh.

Well to be fair the Kindle Fire is not considered an Android tablet or counted among Android devices even though it uses a heavily modified version of android as a base.



Based on what exactly? I remember reading somewhere once a news article that claimed Google only counted devices that were 3G/4G activated through a carrier as 'active Android devices' including tablets. I don't know if that is true but if so it would rule most Android tablets out I think.

The whole thing about what is or isn't an Android device cam be kind of grey area anyhow. I have an HP TouchPad running Android, but is it an 'Android Device'? For all intents and purposes? Yes. Counted in 'official numbers'? Probably not.

Anyway, I think the Fire should count. It's forked Android but still Android and the Humble games for the most part do work on it. *shrug*

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 10:56 PM

You know, during the Holiday sale I strongly considered buying Avadon, but I held off because it seemed like a game that might end up in a bundle sometime soon. Obviously this decision has paid off for me now.

I'm not sure if this is what they were looking for when these bundle makers started their bundles. I mean, I'm definitely playing more indie games than I was a year and a half ago, but I've gotten to the point where I stop myself whenever I'm thinking about buying an indie. I only get them through bundles now.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:03 PM

Avadon is crashing on the Transformer Prime as well. It will crash at the title screen most of the time. When you get in game, it'll eventually crash.

Ice Cream Sandwich, no custom roms or anything.

#47 motoki

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:16 PM

Avadon is crashing on the Transformer Prime as well. It will crash at the title screen most of the time. When you get in game, it'll eventually crash.

Ice Cream Sandwich, no custom roms or anything.



I hope that people are reporting issues like these. Like I mentioned before, I know the HB guys really did try to test these apps on a wide range of devices before release, particularly since these are not just new to them but to Android entirely, but they couldn't hit every configuration.

It says on the main page:


Note that this is the initial release of all the games for Android, and most of them for Linux. Please be patient while the developers fix any 1.0 bugs as quickly as they can, and of course, don't hesitate to contact us if you encounter any issues.



There are bound to be some hiccups but the HB guys are really good at communicating with the various developers and often will have a new build put out in a relatively short time if the issue is serious but they can't fix anything if they don't know about it.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 11:24 PM

Everything is working decently on the HTC EVO View 4G

Avadon - no problem so far (although in the tip screen it said you can change orientation, didn't find that in settings)
Zen Bound 2 - first start-up after selecting the first level was just black screen. Quit, closed and tried again and seems to be working fine now
Canabalt - Worked fine a few rounds and then expectantly had a forced close. Hopefully rare.
Cogs - no problemo
S&S - no problemo

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 12:32 AM

Avadon - no problem so far (although in the tip screen it said you can change orientation, didn't find that in settings)


Seems to auto-orientate for landscape but not to/for portrait. (perhaps they just meant 'upside-down':?:)

Just finished the tutorial mission and not one force close yet.
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 12:42 AM

avadon works fine on hp touchpad with cm9

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 01:10 AM

Paid 6.50 cause i really wanted Swords and Soldiers HD (it looks mindblowing in stereoscopic 3d), and cause the video they used looked like a nice bundle of fun games for my android devices (Rezound/Touchpad). Thanks for the heads up OP. I hope they add something cool.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 01:21 AM

I can confirm Avadon runs on a Kindle Fire (non-rooted) but it does freeze for 5-10 seconds for me every turn in battle mode, a bit annoying.

The other 3 work fine for me (non-rooted Kindle Fire)

#53 Jugglenaut

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 01:23 AM

Got a response from the humble guys, they say to just sideload Avadon on the Kindle Fire. Then I figured out that in the app, even though it lists Avadon as being unsupported, if you click on it twice it'll still download and install. Game launched just fine for me, but didn't have the time to actually start a new game and see if it completely works. Seems like the solution is just to ignore their warning, really.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 02:35 AM

I was finally able to side-load it onto my fire (Avadon), but yeah...it plays like crap. Mine's rooted with no notable improvements (rooted it for the Android Market), most everything else is stock. Freezes up before battles with insane load times.
Might just be because Kindle Fire's processing power is kind of junk, but eh. The rest of the games seem to run well, including the ones from last bundle, so I'll survive.
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 05:27 AM

Avadon and the rest work fine on the Rezound. However, Zen Bound 2 comes up with weird lines on the screen and doesnt work, tried closing, and re-opening and also rebooting. All the others run excellent. I thought avadon was poop and nuked it already. Loved the rest.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 05:33 AM

Hm, trying to figure something out with Avadon. I'm new to android in general so maybe someone can figure this out. How can I transfer my save file from my device to my PC? Digging around my tablet with a file explorer I can't really figure out where the files would be.

This is assuming the save files are even compatible, but I see no reason to believe otherwise - it works for the iPad version after all.
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 05:35 AM

FYI, here are the download sizes for each of the games:

Canabalt: 12.3MB
Cogs: 56.6MB
Swords & Soldiers: 144.1MB
Zen Bound 2: 162.5MB
Avadon: 114.9MB

FYI #2: If you bought the first Android bundle you can link this bundle to the Android HB app. Simply tap "Add another bundle" on the HB app main screen and note the authentication code. Go to your HB purchase page in your browser, click on "Try the Humble Bundle Android App (beta)" and then enter the authentication code. Now all you have to do is tap on Download Games in the Android app and you'll see your games added to it. :D

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 06:13 PM

Anyone able to get the Humble Bundle app itself working on a non-rooted Kindle Fire? Trying to download it but can't find a link that works.

#59 motoki

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:51 PM

Anyone able to get the Humble Bundle app itself working on a non-rooted Kindle Fire? Trying to download it but can't find a link that works.



The humble bundle url that they emailed you when you made the purchase should have a link on it for the HB app. I says "Humble Bundle App (Beta)" and should be the link just above the link for the game apks. I just tested it on my phone now and it did download for me.

By the way, one of the HB guys just sent me a message to say that the Humble app's detection of the Kindle Fire should be fixed it and it should now properly detect it as a tablet.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 10:05 PM

Ah cool, yup its working for me now.